" superman still has his other powers though and kratos cant fly. reread the op "
You gave his chains unlimited length. He would eventually catch Superman, just like H/P Doomsday did with his claws. Kratos could block heat vision with his blades, though.
No, it wouldn't. If Superman decided to use his speed against Kratos in battle (in conjunction with his heat vision and arctic breath), he's not going to be able to touch him. Mongul couldn't even touch him when his speed was in use. Neither could Equus. Not to mention Zod. Kratos isn't even that fast, nor is he fast enough to catch a speedster as fast as Superman. It would look like this, if Kratos didn't have Superman's physical abilities.
No, it wouldn't. If Superman decided to use his speed against Kratos in battle (in conjunction with his heat vision and arctic breath), he's not going to be able to touch him. Mongul couldn't even touch him when his speed was in use. Neither could Equus. Not to mention Zod. Kratos isn't even that fast, nor is he fast enough to catch a speedster as fast as Superman. It would look like this, if Kratos didn't have Superman's physical abilities.
No, it wouldn't. If Superman decided to use his speed against Kratos in battle (in conjunction with his heat vision and arctic breath), he's not going to be able to touch him. Mongul couldn't even touch him when his speed was in use. Neither could Equus. Not to mention Zod. Kratos isn't even that fast, nor is he fast enough to catch a speedster as fast as Superman. It would look like this, if Kratos didn't have Superman's physical abilities.
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Bro I have that comic and don't even tired to compare Batman to Kratos......
@Lantern Prime: Not making comparisons and you having the comic doesn't really tell me anything. Just letting you know that without Kratos being equal to Superman in speed and perception, he's not going to be able to hit him. Whether you agree or not is your problem.
@kareem: Can't remember the issue. I do know that it was in the Hush arc, though, IIRC.
" @Lantern Prime: Not making comparisons and you having the comic doesn't really tell me anything. Just letting you know that without Kratos being equal to Superman in speed and perception, he's not going to be able to hit him. Whether you agree or not is your problem.
@kareem: Can't remember the issue. I do know that it was in the Hush arc, though, IIRC."
Time can beat speed and Sueprman has been tagged against characters no where near the speed of light.....Thats how I know DBZ fighters would demolish him..... But thats another argument for another debate
" @Lantern Prime: Not making comparisons and you having the comic doesn't really tell me anything. Just letting you know that without Kratos being equal to Superman in speed and perception, he's not going to be able to hit him. Whether you agree or not is your problem.
@kareem: Can't remember the issue. I do know that it was in the Hush arc, though, IIRC."
Time can beat speed and Sueprman has been tagged against characters no where near the speed of light.....Thats how I know DBZ fighters would demolish him..... But thats another argument for another debate "
Superman gets hit by slower peopple for the sake of plot,just like Spider-Man being tagged by the likes of Hammerhead is
Exactly thats why it happens and thats why its all canon and it happens so thats why in a fight he would touch Superman. People wanna use PIS and CIS as an excuse but it happens so thats all you can say....
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@Lantern Prime said:
"@Matezoide Exactly thats why it happens and thats why its all canon and it happens so thats why in a fight he would touch Superman. People wanna use PIS and CIS as an excuse but it happens so thats all you can say.... "
PIS is ignored. Cannon has nothing to do with it. Or do you thing Black Panter can put Silver Surfer in a arm lock or Storm hurt SS with lighting ? Lots of examples on PIS.
I would also point you to the forum rules.
Determining what is done for the plot and what is done because of the characters involved can be hard for some people. Superman is a prime case. In comics, Superman rarely uses his speed offensively. This is done for plot, to prolong the story and make it interesting (though it can also be said that it's a part of his character and not done solely because it benefits the story). In comics, Superman doesn’t kill. He does not spare his enemies because of the plot, he spares them because it’s part of his character not to kill thanks to how he was raised. In battles on the forum we include CIS, but not PIS, so Superman uses his speed but generally doesn’t kill unless otherwise stated. (“Bloodlust”)
So as long you use this forums all you said is inrelevant.
"Time can beat speed and Sueprman has been tagged against characters no where near the speed of light
Time is something Kratos wouldn't have against Superman, under normal conditions. Superman doesn't have to move at light speed to elude his opponents (and doesn't utilize light speed in battle anyway). He could move at 2000 miles a second in battle, and Kratos will not touch him. Simple.
That scan is from the Superman arc "For Tomorrow." Millions of people disappeared off of the planet, including Lois, and Superman got all moody and set out to go on a potential suicide mission to bring everyone back. And in his moody mood, he swooped in on Batman as he was saving someone and saved the person for him. They then had an argument and Superman hinted to Batman what he set out to do, then Bats called Wonder Woman to stop Superman.
@ThanosIsMad: Ah. That's where it's from. My mistake. Been a while since I read it. Just automatically assumed it was from Hush, since Jim Lee illustrated both arcs.
LOL. I like how people reach about things like this. "
heh,thats basicaly what happened
Kratos chased Hermes (wasnt close to hit him and Hermes was just playing),until Hermes got on the top of a statue,Kratos used a catapult to throw a big rock on him and ,using his chains, was able to go along with the rock,breaking the statue,Hermes and Kratos falled from a great height then we control Kratos,walk around and see Hermes bleeding (even spitting blood) and couldnt run remotely close to his original speed without having to stop to catch his breath Kratos never tagged Hermes when he was on his pride
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Posted by MKF30
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I have to go Supes here...since he still has his other abilities and flight, heat vision, super breath etc..also, he could always just grab Kratos and fly fast into space and that's that....
"i know cratos isnt as strong as superman but he is strong enough from being crushed by 2000ft+++ titants "
That's durability. Not strength. Besides, how do we know those Titans are as strong as Superman?"
@Static Shock:
that's just hitting the button so that kratos isn't crushed.
kratos has great strength. but poor durability (ares through a collum through kratos in god of war one from about 100 miles away).
now if he had superman type strength, speed, & durability this more interesting. however, superman still has an advantage of flight. also, i's sure that superman is faster in flight than he is in running.
I still think that superman wins a tremendously brutal & bloody fight due to his other powers. like super breathe, freeze breathe. also, kratos can unleash his chains, if he misses, the time it takes for his chains to return to him, superman can strike him with a speed blitz or one big blow to end the fight. the chains may be unlimited, but they may not be to his advantage if he misses. it's like a short heavyweight with short arms fighting a boxer with long arms. if the long armed boxer misses, he's make's himself a sitting duck to get hit if the shorter boxer is quick enough to react & attack.
"i know cratos isnt as strong as superman but he is strong enough from being crushed by 2000ft+++ titants "
That's durability. Not strength. Besides, how do we know those Titans are as strong as Superman?"
however, superman still has an advantage of flight. also, i's sure that superman is faster in flight than he is in running.
the OP said Kratos is as fast as Superman,and flight means nothing if your opponent can attack from distance
@Surge2477 said:
I still think that superman wins a tremendously brutal & bloody fight due to his other powers. like super breathe, freeze breathe. also, kratos can unleash his chains, if he misses, the time it takes for his chains to return to him, superman can strike him with a speed blitz or one big blow to end the fight. the chains may be unlimited, but they may not be to his advantage if he misses. it's like a short heavyweight with short arms fighting a boxer with long arms. if the long armed boxer misses, he's make's himself a sitting duck to get hit if the shorter boxer is quick enough to react & attack. i'll take superman in a close one "
he is as durable as Superman,heat vision and freeze breathe wont be a problem it he misses he just swing then to where Superman is now,he doesnt have to pull it back how can Superman speedblitz who is as fast as he is and is a much better fighter? how is one big blow going to KO someone as durable as he is?
he is as durable as Superman,heat vision and freeze breathe wont be a problem it he misses he just swing then to where Superman is now,he doesnt have to pull it backhow can Superman speedblitz who is as fast as he is and is a much better fighter? how is one big blow going to KO someone as durable as he is? "
it makes perfect sense. superman is faster & is more agile while flying. the blades of athena don't move at light speed. superman can still see there approach if kratos tries to attack from a distance. does that not follow. & super breathe can cause kratos to lose his balance. freeze breathe can immobilize kratos long enough for superman to attack. no matter how durable kratos's boost make him, superman will (as will kratos) use the amount of power needed to win the fight.
i didn't say it would be easy, but i still pick kal-el
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Posted by Om4zd
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Just my opinion but Superman is far beyond Kratos. Don't think that just because Kratos beat all the gods in GoW means that he is more powerful than Superman. The gods in GoW weren't that powerful. I mean, Zeus in the DC comics can destroy a Demi God by blinking. BTW, how strong and how fast does Kratos get?
I believe Kratos can take this, he should be able to block everything thrown at him from the air, and then when the battle is taken to ground level, he, imo, has the higher probability of winning.
Well if kratos had the same strength and speed and superman i'd think kratos would win. Buy with out supermans speed or strength i think superman wins. Idk.
Superman is much smarter than Kratos. I'm pretty sure only golden age superman would lose to kratos. DCAU and up would win. Superman has the power of the plot on his side.
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