Korra vs the Gaang

Korra:

VS

The Gaang:

In this battle, Avatar Korra will do battle with the original team Avatar, can she win?

The Gaang consists of Katara, Toph, and Zuko

Korra has all the elements. No AS

Fight takes place at the South Pole. Time is twilight. Starting distance is 50 feet.

Korra is bloodlusted. The Gaang is in character

Victory by ko or death

Who wins?

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The Gaang is better in their individual elements but air may give Korra the win...

i'd say gaang

With bloodlust on Korra only. Korra wins. With bloodlust on both to hard to call. With both in character the original Team Avatar, with bloodlusted original Team Avatar Team Avatar wins. So any of the possible scenarios even the ones you didn't mention are covered so there :).

Korra wins

Bloodlusted Korra should take this. More versatlity, overall better feats and a much greater willingness to win by any means.

You know Korra wins here..

Korra.

Very unfortunately, it seems bloodlusted Korra may very w--

SCREW THAT, time to put my biased debating skills to work!

DP's Argument Against Korra

Toph: Toph is clearly the superior earthbender to Korra, and being bloodlusted, while giving Korra more opportunities and ways to take out the trio, doesn't change that cold hard fact. Korra's airbending is troublesome, very troublesome. But Toph's earthbending style is clever, and she'll be able to block quite a few of Korra's attacks, and retaliate with some of her own. She probably can't defeat a bloodlusted Korra on her own, but she will provide enough cover for Katara and Zuko, and keep Korra on edge the entire time. Be it slipping in bits of earth, tumbling the ground below Korra's feet, whatever Toph feels the need to do. But she is definitely a factor here.

Katara: Katara will definitely help with the offense against the avatar. As proven before, Katara is a master waterbender, and her more traditional style is above the modern, aggressive style that Korra utilizes. Now, she might not play a HUGE factor here, but her skill is enough to give Korra some trouble. Korra will have a hard time focusing on all three masters of their respective elements, and Katara has what it takes to keep Korra guessing.

Zuko: NOW we're talking! We've got the prince of the fire nation himself, ZUKO. Zuko will perhaps be the primary offense in this battle, and the one Korra goes after the most. And we all know that fire is more or less Korra's best element. But Zuko brings a lot to the table with his firebending. He brings intensity, skill, creativity, and much experience. Problem is, Korra brings a heck of a lot of power with her firebending. But Zuko, as stated before, is going to be a prime target here, and his skill will be more than enough to help him survive this encounter, alongside his teamates. His determination to win and drive will be a big threat to the avatar. That, and if Korra defeat him, bye bye honor.

Put all that together, and we've got a very possibly Gaang win in our future. Together, the three of them bring a lot to the table. Their teamwork, skill, and versality can trump Korra's power, 4-elemental versatility, and rage. While her airbending is her primary factor, they can take it, together.

@bluelantern1995: lol @hatemalingsia: @gizmorino: @ssj_god: any reasons?

Dang it so unfair why does korra have to be bloodlusted sigh. She takes this with high difficulty.

@primebonnick: if it's high difficulty can't be that unfair, would it be more fair another way?

Toph solos with flying rocks. She could beat Aang. It doesnt matter how fast Korra is because Toph can sense her so she can always dodge. Even if Korra goes Avatar state and uses Earthbending, Toph would just bend it out of the way because it's just earth. Also Toph is faster than sound, able to blitz Gaara's absolute defense twice. She's also faster than boulders, putting her above Flash and Zoom. She can metalbend too, so she can even beat Magneto and Toppa Tengen Gurren Lagann. Mismatch, I don't see how Korra is supposed to beat an omnipotent.

@thelocust619: for a second there I thought you were serious

Gaang ..............wait for it.....curbstomps

@anakin-curbstomper: any reasons?

@arcus: Arcus, isn't the ground in south pole covered at least inches by ice/snow ? Maybe it'll effect Toph seismic sense..

@alphaeyght2: wasn't actually thinking about that. Let's assume her seismic sense is unaffected

well korra doesnt have avatar state if she did she'd curbstomp buuuuut she doesnt . she has proven vulnerable against master benders like unalaq,amon,tarlok, etc. the only thing amon had over korra was physicality which i believe ms bei fong can bring. also zuckos power is also up there i can see her beating one of them mid-high but all of them too much for the water triber theres just too much versatility.

@anakin-curbstomper: Amon also had psychic bloodbending...

Korra's far more physical than Toph

@arcus: i didnt say korras less physical i said toph can provide physicality to aid kataras bending. korra cant honestly beat three of avatars top tiers

@anakin-curbstomper: I wouldn't say these three are in the top tier of Avatar. That's for guys like Bumi, Combustion Man, psychic bloodbenders

Toph and Amon aren't even comparable

@arcus: bite your tongue toph is Kage Tier

gaang

@schleck33: any reasons?

Bloodlusted Korra tears them apart. She has shown superior firepower than Zuko, is comparable to Katara in water bending, and though she doesn't have Toph level earth bending, she is faster.

Not to mention bloodlusted she can blitz and destroy their souls a la Unalaq.

3 vs 1. They got experience and teamwork. They are true masters.

@schleck33: Korra has versatility, solid raw power, she's hardly inexperienced herself

For those interested

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/azula-dai-li-vs-kuvira-s-army-1644754/#2

Korra ftw she's alredy showed impressive bending skills while fighting unavatu outside the AS so she will be to much for the team

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THIS! Nothing but 1000% truth right here!

Toph beats Gaara

Garra beats Korra

Each member is about her level in their respectable bending areas, so all at one should be able to easily overwhelm her.

Korra.....she's just too powerful for Katara and Zuko and when bloodlusted it takes away their ability to get close to her. Korra wins

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Korra having bloodlust isn't much different from normal Korra. Like I said in the other thread, Korra's battle tactics doesn't show justice to her actual skill. The team can out smart her.

@soduh2: Can you give me an example of when Korra has been easily outsmarted recently? Bloodlust means Korra won't hold back, and judging by her high end feats she does hold back

Most of Korra's high end feats lack precision or finesse. She just throws or punches the elements at her opponent. Granted, most of the time she has an "excuse" for her lower end feats (as well as some of her subjectively high end feats like her Avatar State fight against Zaheer). That just makes her alleged potential all the more suspect and dubious.

Take her fight against Kuvira, even after she had the metal removed and made peace with Zaheer, she still needed all of her elements to keep up with her. Same with her fight against Unalaq, before Raava was removed.

@soduh2:

That's how most high end feats of raw power work

That doesn't mean she doesn't show precision, I can post gifs later. Pulling Unalaq off the water spout, for example

She didn't need all the elements to keep up with Kuvira. She didn't have any water (her best element), and the fight was in a metal room, limiting earthbending to metalbending (something she lacks experience in)-no regular earth. And then she was still winning. Unalaq's the most powerful waterbender we've seen (with the possible exception of Avatar Roku), and the fight was in the ideal waterbending environment

None of those show her being outsmarted

I would argue that they do show her being outsmarted. Even holding back, Korra should have more than a slight upper hand against her opponents (based on how much she is hyped). Heck, even based on her own feats, Korra is constantly a victim of the "I forgot I could fly" mentality. To be fair, other characters had similar moments (I'm talking to you "dragon trained" Zuko). Based on Korra's most common battle tactics, which are aggressive in nature, Korra sells herself short.

Speaking of Unalaq, I thinkTonraq's fighting style (with only water) is similar to Korra's with all the elements. Both of them are extremely physical in their style, and have implied skillsets that they simply do not favor to use. Tonraq was agile enough to close the gap between him and his brother, countering many of Unalaq's techniques. However, Unalaq's superior tactics ended the fight with out him getting hit once.

@soduh2:

Same could be said about Aang. Even with just airbending, he never should have struggled with Zuko or Azula, but he did. Aggressive tactics aren't a bad thing, look at Firelord Ozai or Aang in the AS. Very aggressive

Unalaq's also a far superior waterbender to Tonraq

Not fair to compare Aang (12 years old, trained for 1 year) and Korra (16 to 21 years old, trained since she was a toddler), but I'm not denying his flaws. He's not on trial here though.

Tonraq doesn't water bend enough to compare the two, he's much more physical.

EDIT: Aggressive tactics =/= Lack of finesse/Precision

@soduh2:

Everyone that you're comparing Korra to has also trained longer than her

There's every indication that Unalaq is the superior waterbender, from feats to statements

When has Korra shown a lack of precision that you find troubling? She used precise moves against Unalaq. Zaheer, Kuvira. What do you mean by precision exactly?

Its really a matter of her common battle tactics, not a specific situation. "Specific" situations tend to highlight her "better" feats. I'm talking about everything else. For what Korra should be capable of, with her teachers, and her learning curve, she is surprisingly lacking. Yes, Aang being a master of Air bending, should have been more formidable, but Korra was supposed to be a "master" of the other three elements. Looking at the fights now, the comments seemed fairly mixed on youtube. What looks like a "good showing" to some people, is kind of pathetic or mediocre to others.

In all of your examples, Korra demonstrated a few positive feats, but mostly mediocre ones. She'll have a slight advantage, if any, but not much of one.

So you're problem is that she doesn't dominate all of her fights? Fair enough, though that doesn't inherently mean that she's a bad fighter, could always be a credit to her opponent. What does that have to do with precision?