KN1 Naruto and CS2 Sasuke vs Kakashi

VS

Rules:

• Anime and Manga feats allowed
• Win by KO, Incap or Death
• Round 1 Pre-Shippuden Kakashi
• Round 2 Shippuden Pre-War Arc Kakashi

Location: Valley of the End, Sasuke and Naruto start on Madara's head and Kakashi starts on Hashirama's

1. Hard to say.

2. Kakashi stomps hard.

Round 1: Probably Team

Round 2: Kakashi

both Kakashi, Round 1 near death difficulty, Round 2 doesn't even break a sweat.

Kakashi with high difficulty he was rushing to the valley of end to stop Naruto and Sasuke that's enough for me to believe he can win

Kakashi easy he already stopped KN3 tails with a seal and Sasuke pre shippuuden is beneath that

@uchiha454: he was rushing to the valley of end to stop Naruto and Sasuke that's enough for me to believe he can win

Kakashi didn't know Sasuke had 3 tomoe, how powerful the cursed seal was nor if/how much Naruto had tapped into Kyuubi's chakra.

@night4345: He knew Naruto possessed the kyuubi's chakra and even saw a glimpse of it during Haku's fight and he sealed Sasuke's cursed seal so he had knowledge on that as well. I don't think that the power gaps in comparison to what he knows is great enough to overwhelm him.

@uchiha454: That means nothing. 1. He wasn't going there to fight Naruto but to get Sasuke back. 2. That doesn't mean he knows how far Naruto was going with the chakra. 3. Kakashi would have gone after them anyways. He wasn't going to let another comrade down let alone his students.

He used a general sealing method to seal the mark and he didn't know about the second stage of the mark (I doubt he even knows the extent of how powerful stage 1 is as the only time it was used pre-VOTE was in the Forest of Death).

Round 1 : Team. IIRC Zabuza stated that a Kyuubi amped Naruto was too powerful for pre-shippuden Kakashi, CS2 Sasuke is just as powerful as Naruto if not slightly stronger.

Round 2 : Kakashi should win.

@night4345:

He would have to fight Sasuke to bring him back that was clear

Kakashi had decent knowledge on Naruto as well the Kyuubi seeing as how the village was attacked by it on one occasion he noted that Naruto had tremendous chakra reserves due that

I don't think Kakashi would go into a situation where he'd be useless even looking at shippuuden when he lost his sharingan Sasuke told him to shut up and said he was as useless as Sakura and let Sasuke take the lead

He knew about the curse mark's power at least its initial stages which is why he attempted to seal it otherwise he would have just left it onto Sasuke

Also honestly since its pre shippuuden CS2 Sasuke it doesn't really give him that much of a significant advantage against Kakashi since he has only one or two ranged attack and a amped chidori with flight

I can see Kakashi winning with high difficulty for the first one.

@uchiha454: He would have to fight Sasuke to bring him back that was clear.

And his knowledge of Sasuke was that he would be able to bring him back especially with Naruto there.

Kakashi had decent knowledge on Naruto as well the Kyuubi seeing as how the village was attacked by it on one occasion he noted that Naruto had tremendous chakra reserves due that

Kakashi wasn't even fighting the Kyuubi. All he knew was the intense presence it's chakra had.

I don't think Kakashi would go into a situation where he'd be useless even looking at shippuuden when he lost his sharingan Sasuke told him to shut up and said he was as useless as Sakura and let Sasuke take the lead

Wildly different circumstances.

He knew about the curse mark's power at least its initial stages which is why he attempted to seal it otherwise he would have just left it onto Sasuke

Yeah sure, Kakashi's just going to leave the mark on his student left by a traitor to his village known to perform horrific experiments on people like Sasuke not to mention the thing almost killed Sasuke when he received it.

@uchiha454: Which is very useful and would enable to him to fight accordingly here.

How is knowing that help outside of knowing not to play around?

True but Kakashi is still the same in this regard he won't charge into a situation without knowing he can do something even in looking at pre shippuuden when Kakashi sees Orochimaru he bluffs then afterwards we see that he believes that he wouldn't have beaten him.

What Kakashi knew: Sasuke is leaving the village and in a fight with Naruto where in their last fight they tried to kill each other. Last time he was able to throw both of them away from each other without anyone getting hurt. What he doesn't know: Sasuke is willingly activating the curse into a more powerful form and has completed his Sharingan while Naruto went past any form of Kyuubi's chakra he's went into before to 1 tail.

Kakashi didn't know that it almost killed him. Also Sasuke was trying to keep the mark hidden had it not been for the 2nd stage of the chunin exams he would have never known.

You're right Kakashi didn't know about that.

Naruto during his first encounter in post Shippuuden with Kakashi said that he had a higher level of intellect than Shikamaru, Better hand to hand than Neji, and Better Sharigan skill than Sasuke. Considering that Naruto had no prior knowledge on Kakashi it shows that these were a decent estimation of his pre shippuuden skills. Meaning he has tremendous advantages over the two though together Kakashi will be really close to dying but I think he can win more than not.

When did Naruto say this?

Round 1 Team.

Round 2 Kakashi.

Kakashi should actually stomp the team in Round 1 if you make some logical assumptions, but he lacks the feats to back it up.

Techniques that Kakashi has that would instantly make him win, but he has no feats with/needs knowledge of CS to use:

1st and 2nd Gate
Genjutsu rank is higher than Sasuke's
Waiting around in Douton because Sasuke's CS2 will wear off because his body can't take the strain
Fighting inside the water below with mizubunshin while hiding somewhere else (deep water will allow mizubunshin to seem more like Kakashi/make them think it's kagebunshin/substitution when they get destroyed.)

All of this is irrelevent, he blitzes and ends them both in both rounds easily with Naruto's healing factor being the only problem.

Reasons:

1. Still faster than them by a considerable amount
2. Kakashi's precog is better than Sasuke's
3. Experience
4. Seals
5. I could make a case for anbu kakashi stalemating if not beating this Sasuke
6. Plethora of jutsu including the Rasengan, and hidden mist technique which means they could get sniped blindly
7. The same kakashi whose fought numerous s-classed ninja on even ground vs two newly experienced squirts at this point in time?
8. His sensei was Minato, argument invalid.

@cosmic_lantern:

• Still faster than them by a considerable amount

By what feats?

• Kakashi's precog is better than Sasuke's

No, it's not. If anything Sasuke's is because he has both eyes.

• Experience

True.

• Seals

He couldn't do anything but make a seal that Sasuke needed to help keep under key with prep. This might not be the case in Shippuden.

• I could make a case for anbu kakashi stalemating if not beating this Sasuke

If you can make the case let's here it.

• Plethora of jutsu including the Rasengan, and hidden mist technique which means they could get sniped blindly

Naruto and Sasuke have more powerful jutsu with enhanced versions of the Rasengan and Chidori respectively. Sasuke can see through the mist and Naruto can casually get rid of it with a chakra surge like Kakashi did or use a shout to clear it.

• The same kakashi whose fought numerous s-classed ninja on even ground vs two newly experienced squirts at this point in time?
• His sensei was Minato, argument invalid.

Cool story, bro.

Kakashi wins both rounds.

He can just tighten the seals on both of them, he should be faster.

The second round isnt a contest.

Round 1: This one is weird as I don' remmember Kakashi to have feats on that level in part 1, even though he should. Dunno, I think he can take this, but with extreme difficulty.

Round 2: Kakashi stomps them, now he has way better feats than Naruto and Sasuke (the versions in this battle, for anyone wondering what the hell I'm saying).

Bump

Kakashi both rounds

Hard to say, Kakashi could win R1

R2- Kakashi stomps.

If that part 1 statement of Kakashi cutting a bolt of lightning is true he speedblitzes them at Round 1.

Round 2 Kakashi stomps hard + he has MS.

Round 1: Kakashi High Diff

Round 2: Kakashi stomps

Round 1: team.

Round 2; kakashi

Round 1: Hard to say

Round 2: Kakashi sweeps

I think the team takes it round 1 in a tough fight.

Kakashi wins round two mid diff

Kakashi stomps both rounds. Part 1 Kakashi should not be vastly weaker than Beginning of Part 2 Kakashi, who was about the same level of BoS Sasuke, who was superior to BoS KN3 Naruto, who should be superior to these two for sure

Kakashi both rounds

Kid Naruto in base was able to react to an attack from a bloodlusted Kabuto who was equal to part 1 Kakashi. KN1 Naruto and CS2 sasuke is a mid diff stomp for round 1.

Round 2 kakashi takes it low diff.