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#1 Edited by Pr0metheus (4960 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Fight on an indestrucible, uninhabited earth.
  • No BFR, Win by any other means.
#2 Posted by Night4345 (2269 posts) - - Show Bio

Hunter/Prey Doomsday stomps.

#3 Posted by reaverlation (14042 posts) - - Show Bio

D-D-D-Doomsday

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#5 Posted by AllStarSuperman (20141 posts) - - Show Bio
#6 Posted by ComicStooge (12028 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably Doomsday.

#7 Posted by ZeroPlus (2172 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday for sure.

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#8 Edited by RisingBean (3583 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday.

#9 Posted by dagmar_merrill (6759 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes.

#10 Posted by Zmasonite (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday

#11 Posted by Lvenger (18366 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen This is definitely your kind of battle mate, I'd be interested to see who you think would win between HP Doomsday and KC Superman. Kinda leaning towards Doomsday thus far though.

#12 Edited by JwwProd (8694 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday.

#13 Posted by Lord44 (1352 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman dies another time...

#14 Edited by Eisenfauste (7315 posts) - - Show Bio

DD

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#15 Posted by Frozen (11010 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Superman takes it, faster, maybe stronger and his durability is ridiculously high, very slim majority IMO

#16 Edited by Lvenger (18366 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen: Fair reasoning but DD taking down the entire Justice League and Darkseid isn't going to make things any easier for KC Superman though.

#17 Posted by Frozen (11010 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: It won't, but remember Kal L resisting his punch? IMO, KC Superman is more powerful than the 2005/6 version of Kal L

#18 Posted by Lvenger (18366 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@lvenger: It won't, but remember Kal L resisting his punch? IMO, KC Superman is more powerful than the 2005/6 version of Kal L

Good point, Kal-L was probably twice as powerful as Pre Flashpoint Superman at that point so KC Superman should be able to handle those punches handily. Though that wasn't HP Doomsday the two Supermen fought, just a more savage, base Doomsday since Doomsday gave up his sentience in exchange for reversing the timeline back to normal in that 2003-2004 Gog storyline. It was still more powerful than Doomsday Rex though. I meant to mention that to Killemall in that other thread where we were having a long discussion but it slipped my mind.

#19 Posted by AdamAnouer (239 posts) - - Show Bio

Can someone remind me, Is Hunter/Prey Doomsday the one who gained sentience by getting a brain?

#20 Edited by ComicStooge (12028 posts) - - Show Bio

KC is my favourite version of Superman, though.

#21 Posted by highaccuser (5645 posts) - - Show Bio

Can someone remind me, Is Hunter/Prey Doomsday the one who gained sentience by getting a brain?

No, he's the one that beat the JLA.

#22 Posted by lowlaville (3544 posts) - - Show Bio

I think DD has this..

#23 Edited by highaccuser (5645 posts) - - Show Bio

As for the battle, most of the fight with the JLA was off-panel so we can't assume he fought them all at once, and no one he beat was as powerful as KC Superman. The only person I think we saw him fight was Wonder Woman, but that hardly shows he'd beat KC Supes.

#24 Posted by AdamAnouer (239 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: Holy toastie. In that case I'm gonna give that one to Doomsday because he simply does not stop. Or true to his comic book form "If I'm going down, I'm taking you with me.".

#25 Edited by ComicStooge (12028 posts) - - Show Bio

@adamanouer said:

Can someone remind me, Is Hunter/Prey Doomsday the one who gained sentience by getting a brain?

No, he's the one that beat the JLA.

That was the Doomsday Wars version.

#26 Posted by AdamAnouer (239 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: Wait is this the one that beat Darkseid unconcious? Actually at this point I think we can all agree that savage doomsday wins pretty much every one-on-one with supes unless there is a plan or weakness to exploit.

#27 Edited by kyrees (4549 posts) - - Show Bio

doomsday is going to evolve around him in the end.

#28 Posted by highaccuser (5645 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser said:

@adamanouer said:

Can someone remind me, Is Hunter/Prey Doomsday the one who gained sentience by getting a brain?

No, he's the one that beat the JLA.

That was the Doomsday Wars version.

No, it isn't. That version may have, but this version did as well.

#29 Edited by ComicStooge (12028 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge said:

@highaccuser said:

@adamanouer said:

Can someone remind me, Is Hunter/Prey Doomsday the one who gained sentience by getting a brain?

No, he's the one that beat the JLA.

That was the Doomsday Wars version.

No, it isn't. That version may have, but this version did as well.

Are you talking about this?

That was Doomsday Wars.

#30 Posted by highaccuser (5645 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser said:

@comicstooge said:

@highaccuser said:

@adamanouer said:

Can someone remind me, Is Hunter/Prey Doomsday the one who gained sentience by getting a brain?

No, he's the one that beat the JLA.

That was the Doomsday Wars version.

No, it isn't. That version may have, but this version did as well.

Are you talking about this?

That was Doomsday Wars.

If that is true, then nearly the entire vine is wrong. I somehow doubt that.

#31 Edited by ComicStooge (12028 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge said:

@highaccuser said:

@comicstooge said:

@highaccuser said:

@adamanouer said:

Can someone remind me, Is Hunter/Prey Doomsday the one who gained sentience by getting a brain?

No, he's the one that beat the JLA.

That was the Doomsday Wars version.

No, it isn't. That version may have, but this version did as well.

Are you talking about this?

That was Doomsday Wars.

If that is true, then nearly the entire vine is wrong. I somehow doubt that.

I'm the Nelson Mandela of the Vine. One man, fighting an entire community of ignorance.

#32 Posted by highaccuser (5645 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser said:

@comicstooge said:

@highaccuser said:

@comicstooge said:

@highaccuser said:

@adamanouer said:

Can someone remind me, Is Hunter/Prey Doomsday the one who gained sentience by getting a brain?

No, he's the one that beat the JLA.

That was the Doomsday Wars version.

No, it isn't. That version may have, but this version did as well.

Are you talking about this?

That was Doomsday Wars.

If that is true, then nearly the entire vine is wrong. I somehow doubt that.

I'm the Nelson Mandela of the Vine. One man, fighting an entire community of ignorance.

Lol

#33 Edited by Frozen (11010 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@frozen said:

@lvenger: It won't, but remember Kal L resisting his punch? IMO, KC Superman is more powerful than the 2005/6 version of Kal L

Good point, Kal-L was probably twice as powerful as Pre Flashpoint Superman at that point so KC Superman should be able to handle those punches handily. Though that wasn't HP Doomsday the two Supermen fought, just a more savage, base Doomsday since Doomsday gave up his sentience in exchange for reversing the timeline back to normal in that 2003-2004 Gog storyline. It was still more powerful than Doomsday Rex though. I meant to mention that to Killemall in that other thread where we were having a long discussion but it slipped my mind.

He was quite a lot more powerful, KC Superman already took Hercules with his Golden Fleece punch quite easily, and what’s impressive is that Superman was knocked back a far distance, a clear contrast of power IMO. Geoff Johns, wrote a comic in which normal Superman was a match for Jay Garrick, but then wrote another comic in which KC Superman was too fast for Jay, which leads me to believe physically he’s already a fair bit above normal Superman, there’s also the time he shrugged off and blitzed away the JSA dog-piling on him.

Though Doomsday would still be powerful in that story. I should add that KC had a lot of references to Doomsday/DOS saga, not sure if that’d count for anything or his experience with Doomsday.

#34 Edited by kyrees (4549 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen: that doesn't really add to me. if KC supes had a lot of references to doomsday/DOS saga, how would he win against this version of doomsday who merely took a few minutes to get back on DS's omega beams ? i could assume KC supes would kill this doomsday but given that he doesn't stay dead for long and evolves along the way, how does KC supes win ?

do note that i don't know much of KC supes so enlighten me on this though

#35 Posted by patrat18 (8876 posts) - - Show Bio
#36 Posted by Frozen (11010 posts) - - Show Bio

@kyrees said:

@frozen: that doesn't really add to me. if KC supes had a lot of references to doomsday/DOS saga, how would he win against this version of doomsday who merely took a few minutes to get back on DS's omega beams ? i could assume KC supes would kill this doomsday but given that he doesn't stay dead for long and evolves along the way, how does KC supes win ?

do note that i don't know much of KC supes so enlighten me on this though

KC Superman was alluded to being pre-Flashpoint Superman, just a future version. The references indicates he experienced that history, but then again there were a lot of references to a lot of different things.

Coming back to life after death (Doomsday) would still necessitate as a win.

#37 Posted by TheAmazingImmortalMan (2668 posts) - - Show Bio

KC Superman seemed to be a lot more powerful than regular Supes and while HPDD will not go easy on anyone I think this Clark can take him

#38 Posted by Lvenger (18366 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen: Wait Kingdom Come Superman never had any references or recollection of Doomsday in the slightest. What's that opinion of yours based on?

#39 Posted by TheMagicStik (1399 posts) - - Show Bio

KC Superman seemed to be a lot more powerful than regular Supes and while HPDD will not go easy on anyone I think this Clark can take him

HPDD was a lot stronger than motherbox amped Superman.

#40 Posted by tensor (3871 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday no doubt.

#41 Edited by Frozen (11010 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@frozen: Wait Kingdom Come Superman never had any references or recollection of Doomsday in the slightest. What's that opinion of yours based on?

I believe in the 4 issue original story, there were multiple references to Superman's death from the DOS saga.

#42 Posted by Lvenger (18366 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@lvenger said:

@frozen: Wait Kingdom Come Superman never had any references or recollection of Doomsday in the slightest. What's that opinion of yours based on?

I believe in the 4 issue original story, there were multiple references to Superman's death from the DOS saga.

You mean the Hypertime mini series? I don't recall Waid mentioning Superman's death in The Kingdom.

#43 Edited by Frozen (11010 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@frozen said:

@lvenger said:

@frozen: Wait Kingdom Come Superman never had any references or recollection of Doomsday in the slightest. What's that opinion of yours based on?

I believe in the 4 issue original story, there were multiple references to Superman's death from the DOS saga.

You mean the Hypertime mini series? I don't recall Waid mentioning Superman's death in The Kingdom.

No, in the original 1996 Kingdom Come storyline, there are not only references to Superman's tenure as mullet-man but to his death at the hands of Doomsday.

In the Hypertime series, there wasn't a specific reference, only that he had alot of normal Superman's history up to a certain point.

#44 Posted by Lvenger (18366 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen: Wait there are? I never saw either of those references. Not the mullet man nor the Doomsday death one. Do you have references for that claim?

#45 Posted by brainstorm01 (1167 posts) - - Show Bio

doomsday has each and everything to win this fight and if lacs anything then will just evo. Mid fight. Doomsday 8.532/10.000

#46 Edited by Frozen (11010 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: There are a lot of references, I'll have to find the Doomsday one specifically again, for the mullet-man and other references of that specific era of Superman, I have saved in my computer as of now:

Mullet man in the cafe (though, there are tons of references here).

KC Superman is seen having a tied back mullet.

Though perhaps, a very strong reference for that era, it was confirmed in the Revelations part that it was Matrix Supergirl and Kon El Superboy versions (Superboy appeared in DOS saga).

And his origin is confirmed to be the Byrne one.

#47 Posted by ShadowSwordmaster (12216 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday wins this day.

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#48 Posted by DARK_PASSENGER (367 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: just for clarification I thought you were right, but then I looked back through my DD comics and that is from Superman the Doomsday wars issue #1.

#49 Posted by Lvenger (18366 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen: Well you've proven the mullet instance for certain. I remember chuckling at that cafe scene a lot.

#50 Posted by jashro44 (19707 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge said:

Are you talking about this?

That was Doomsday Wars.

If that is true, then nearly the entire vine is wrong. I somehow doubt that.

IIRC Brainiac took doomsdays body from the ends of entropy before he died in hunter prey because of something parallax Hal Jordan did to the universe. So because of Parallax, brainiac was able to save doomsday. He then took control of doomsdays body. So it is hunter prey doomsday, but he has brainiacs brain. He did have some other abilities due to brainiac like some mind blast he used on superman but he never used that against the JLA.

So you're both right.