- Fight on an indestrucible, uninhabited earth.
- No BFR, Win by any other means.
Kingdom Come Superman vs Hunter/Prey Doomsday
D-D-D-Doomsday
@lvenger: It won't, but remember Kal L resisting his punch? IMO, KC Superman is more powerful than the 2005/6 version of Kal L
Good point, Kal-L was probably twice as powerful as Pre Flashpoint Superman at that point so KC Superman should be able to handle those punches handily. Though that wasn't HP Doomsday the two Supermen fought, just a more savage, base Doomsday since Doomsday gave up his sentience in exchange for reversing the timeline back to normal in that 2003-2004 Gog storyline. It was still more powerful than Doomsday Rex though. I meant to mention that to Killemall in that other thread where we were having a long discussion but it slipped my mind.
Can someone remind me, Is Hunter/Prey Doomsday the one who gained sentience by getting a brain?
No, he's the one that beat the JLA.
@highaccuser: Holy toastie. In that case I'm gonna give that one to Doomsday because he simply does not stop. Or true to his comic book form "If I'm going down, I'm taking you with me.".
Can someone remind me, Is Hunter/Prey Doomsday the one who gained sentience by getting a brain?
No, he's the one that beat the JLA.
That was the Doomsday Wars version.
@comicstooge: Wait is this the one that beat Darkseid unconcious? Actually at this point I think we can all agree that savage doomsday wins pretty much every one-on-one with supes unless there is a plan or weakness to exploit.
Can someone remind me, Is Hunter/Prey Doomsday the one who gained sentience by getting a brain?
No, he's the one that beat the JLA.
That was the Doomsday Wars version.
No, it isn't. That version may have, but this version did as well.
Can someone remind me, Is Hunter/Prey Doomsday the one who gained sentience by getting a brain?
No, he's the one that beat the JLA.
That was the Doomsday Wars version.
No, it isn't. That version may have, but this version did as well.
Are you talking about this?
That was Doomsday Wars.
Can someone remind me, Is Hunter/Prey Doomsday the one who gained sentience by getting a brain?
No, he's the one that beat the JLA.
That was the Doomsday Wars version.
No, it isn't. That version may have, but this version did as well.
Are you talking about this?
That was Doomsday Wars.
If that is true, then nearly the entire vine is wrong. I somehow doubt that.
Can someone remind me, Is Hunter/Prey Doomsday the one who gained sentience by getting a brain?
No, he's the one that beat the JLA.
That was the Doomsday Wars version.
No, it isn't. That version may have, but this version did as well.
Are you talking about this?
That was Doomsday Wars.
If that is true, then nearly the entire vine is wrong. I somehow doubt that.
I'm the Nelson Mandela of the Vine. One man, fighting an entire community of ignorance.
Can someone remind me, Is Hunter/Prey Doomsday the one who gained sentience by getting a brain?
No, he's the one that beat the JLA.
That was the Doomsday Wars version.
No, it isn't. That version may have, but this version did as well.
Are you talking about this?
That was Doomsday Wars.
If that is true, then nearly the entire vine is wrong. I somehow doubt that.
I'm the Nelson Mandela of the Vine. One man, fighting an entire community of ignorance.
Lol
@lvenger: It won't, but remember Kal L resisting his punch? IMO, KC Superman is more powerful than the 2005/6 version of Kal L
Good point, Kal-L was probably twice as powerful as Pre Flashpoint Superman at that point so KC Superman should be able to handle those punches handily. Though that wasn't HP Doomsday the two Supermen fought, just a more savage, base Doomsday since Doomsday gave up his sentience in exchange for reversing the timeline back to normal in that 2003-2004 Gog storyline. It was still more powerful than Doomsday Rex though. I meant to mention that to Killemall in that other thread where we were having a long discussion but it slipped my mind.
He was quite a lot more powerful, KC Superman already took Hercules with his Golden Fleece punch quite easily, and what’s impressive is that Superman was knocked back a far distance, a clear contrast of power IMO. Geoff Johns, wrote a comic in which normal Superman was a match for Jay Garrick, but then wrote another comic in which KC Superman was too fast for Jay, which leads me to believe physically he’s already a fair bit above normal Superman, there’s also the time he shrugged off and blitzed away the JSA dog-piling on him.
Though Doomsday would still be powerful in that story. I should add that KC had a lot of references to Doomsday/DOS saga, not sure if that’d count for anything or his experience with Doomsday.
@frozen: that doesn't really add to me. if KC supes had a lot of references to doomsday/DOS saga, how would he win against this version of doomsday who merely took a few minutes to get back on DS's omega beams ? i could assume KC supes would kill this doomsday but given that he doesn't stay dead for long and evolves along the way, how does KC supes win ?
do note that i don't know much of KC supes so enlighten me on this though
D-D-D-Doomsday
@frozen: that doesn't really add to me. if KC supes had a lot of references to doomsday/DOS saga, how would he win against this version of doomsday who merely took a few minutes to get back on DS's omega beams ? i could assume KC supes would kill this doomsday but given that he doesn't stay dead for long and evolves along the way, how does KC supes win ?
do note that i don't know much of KC supes so enlighten me on this though
KC Superman was alluded to being pre-Flashpoint Superman, just a future version. The references indicates he experienced that history, but then again there were a lot of references to a lot of different things.
Coming back to life after death (Doomsday) would still necessitate as a win.
KC Superman seemed to be a lot more powerful than regular Supes and while HPDD will not go easy on anyone I think this Clark can take him
KC Superman seemed to be a lot more powerful than regular Supes and while HPDD will not go easy on anyone I think this Clark can take him
HPDD was a lot stronger than motherbox amped Superman.
You mean the Hypertime mini series? I don't recall Waid mentioning Superman's death in The Kingdom.
You mean the Hypertime mini series? I don't recall Waid mentioning Superman's death in The Kingdom.
No, in the original 1996 Kingdom Come storyline, there are not only references to Superman's tenure as mullet-man but to his death at the hands of Doomsday.
In the Hypertime series, there wasn't a specific reference, only that he had alot of normal Superman's history up to a certain point.
doomsday has each and everything to win this fight and if lacs anything then will just evo. Mid fight. Doomsday 8.532/10.000
@lvenger: There are a lot of references, I'll have to find the Doomsday one specifically again, for the mullet-man and other references of that specific era of Superman, I have saved in my computer as of now:
Mullet man in the cafe (though, there are tons of references here).
KC Superman is seen having a tied back mullet.
Though perhaps, a very strong reference for that era, it was confirmed in the Revelations part that it was Matrix Supergirl and Kon El Superboy versions (Superboy appeared in DOS saga).
And his origin is confirmed to be the Byrne one.
@comicstooge: just for clarification I thought you were right, but then I looked back through my DD comics and that is from Superman the Doomsday wars issue #1.
If that is true, then nearly the entire vine is wrong. I somehow doubt that.
IIRC Brainiac took doomsdays body from the ends of entropy before he died in hunter prey because of something parallax Hal Jordan did to the universe. So because of Parallax, brainiac was able to save doomsday. He then took control of doomsdays body. So it is hunter prey doomsday, but he has brainiacs brain. He did have some other abilities due to brainiac like some mind blast he used on superman but he never used that against the JLA.
So you're both right.
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