@jay_z94: @ordinaryalan: MMH cannot win this even with TP. Odin used TP to stalemate Galactus, and King Thor has the Odin force, so his TP should be much stronger than MMH. No way is TP working on him.
@jay_z94: @ordinaryalan: MMH cannot win this even with TP. Odin used TP to stalemate Galactus, and King Thor has the Odin force, so his TP should be much stronger than MMH. No way is TP working on him.
I'm by no means an expert on MMH, but I'm pretty sure he has better TP feats than Odin.
@jayc1324: The thing is, though, that King Thor =/= Odin. I don't think you can attribute all of Odin's feats to King Thor just because Thor has the Odin Force. A power source is not the same thing as the user of said power force.
Odin has had fights that were destroying galaxies. King Thor was losing to Gorr and he had 2 additional Thors fighting with him. During that fight they never displayed anything above planetary level power.
@jay_z94: @ordinaryalan: MMH cannot win this even with TP. Odin used TP to stalemate Galactus, and King Thor has the Odin force, so his TP should be much stronger than MMH. No way is TP working on him.
The Odin Force isn't all of Odin's power. What Odin can do shouldn't be used to measure what Odin Force Thor can do.
Now you are the one always preaching TP . What TP resistance feat those King Thor have and can with stand . This is always your argument. So with no TP resistance feat and no proof of him doing anything before the Martain level of Tp . How do you say it IMO Martain wins. Its a valid and easy win argument since he does this consistently. Now you have to think what would be king Thor first move be Brawl or to charge an unknown enemy. So it doesnt matter what powers you can think of with no Tp resistance or faced any character on that level .
@termiteone4ever: He can stop time, therefore ignoring TP being a factor,
So before you go of on a childish rant; try using logic....
Prove to me he has done this faster than thought . Prove to me that it will be his first attack . Not just you knowing his powers and relying and hoping. Go on let me hear your valid response . Kingrants
@termiteone4ever: Your telling me, MMH can easily TP someone, who normally showed TP resistance, but is now leagues above that vs a guy who can easily stop time; one is quicker and that is Thor's.
@termiteone4ever: Your telling me, MMH can easily TP someone, who normally showed TP resistance, but is now leagues above that vs a guy who can easily stop time; one is quicker and that is Thor's.
He stomps.
Show me a scan of King Thor TP resistance against a Martain level opponent / Show me a scan of KING Thor using time stop as his first attack in all his opponents he faced. SHow me scan of him doing this faster than the speed of TP . Weren't you not just complaining about ABC logics and its usage.
IF you have no comic scan or proof. This is just your usual foolishness you normally spill based of your own assumptions In your Opinion. Unless you have proof . TP your strongest argument is against you. Guess what Nuff said Win Via TP before Thor can do anything.. It doesnt matter how Powerful he is . The Martain has TP much more powerful Opponents than King Thor. So what your point .
@termiteone4ever: Your arguing that MMH can not just TP Thor quicker than he can stop time, but a much higher level Thor quicker than he can stop time; no chance.
He struggled with the Joker's head before, and this isn't just normal Thor, who has great TP resistance, but a Thor operating on a much higher level; and arguing his TP will be able to render King Thor useless before he can stop time etc.
@termiteone4ever: Your arguing that MMH can not just TP Thor quicker than he can stop time, but a much higher level Thor quicker than he can stop time; no chance.
He struggled with the Joker's head before, and this isn't just normal Thor, who has great TP resistance, but a Thor operating on a much higher level; and arguing his TP will be able to render King Thor useless before he can stop time etc.
You fail to get it . Show me a scan of King Thor resisting or stopping a Martain level TP . Prove to me that Thor will use Time stop as his first attack . Show me in a scan of him doing this as a first attack to at east few different characters. Show me scans of this King Thor using this time stopping ability as his main method of winning 70% of the time. Show me a scan of him using his Time stop ability faster than the speed of TP. IF you cant you have no valid argument. You are just echoing nonsense like you normally do.
OH please . First you try ABC logic . Now you trying to low ball that's just pitiful. Your argument is weak . Cant even counter your own argument you always use and preach about TP. Well thanks to you King Thor has no resistance/ any scans of him doing this . SO Martain Stomps at the speed of TP
@highaccuser: Odin cannot stalemate Galactus in TP without OF. He can't do half the stuff he does without it, and he was not a TP master before he got it.
Thor alone resisted TP from phoenix force Emma frost, as well as the Corrupter. Thats normal Thor. Thor with the Odin force, the power that allowed Odin to stalemate Galactus in a purely TP battle is not being beaten by MMH with TP, or anything else. MMH loses this one. He's going up against a skyfather.
@tensor: @termiteone4ever: I know you 2 didn't like the fact that I pulled up that SBP didn't have TP defence, however King Thor can work his time manipulation quicker than MMH can TP him, so I don't need to prove he is immune to it.
Normal Thor has a good TP resistance, then making it much more powerful would grant him an even higher level of resistance, even though he could stop time and do anything before he can do anything to his mind.
@highaccuser: Odin cannot stalemate Galactus in TP without OF. He can't do half the stuff he does without it, and he was not a TP master before he got it.
We don't really know that. We don't know how much of his power is in the Odin Force.
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