King Hyperion vs WWHulk

"WWH!!!"

Hyperion ftw!!!

"King Hyperion should win this fight... its a decent battle though
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Hulk.CURBSTOMP

"Vance Astro said:

"Hulk.CURBSTOMP"

Just trying to be different?  Hulk barely beat Sentry.  Sentry's the low end of Superman clones.  Half the time, he fails to even get out of bed in the morning.  King Hyperion is the high end, taking down two other Hyperions on his own."

"Zoom said:

"Vance Astro said:

"Hulk.CURBSTOMP"

Just trying to be different?  Hulk barely beat Sentry.  Sentry's the low end of Superman clones.  Half the time, he fails to even get out of bed in the morning.  King Hyperion is the high end, taking down two other Hyperions on his own."

1.Sentry is the most powerful Superman clone there is

2.Hulk won though.

3.Hyperion is weak...as hell.

4.He took down two Hyperions? Sentry through his alter ego into the sun..You can't even do that it's like punching reality..but he did it.

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"Vance Astro said:

"Zoom said:

"Vance Astro said:

"Hulk.CURBSTOMP"

Just trying to be different?  Hulk barely beat Sentry.  Sentry's the low end of Superman clones.  Half the time, he fails to even get out of bed in the morning.  King Hyperion is the high end, taking down two other Hyperions on his own."

1.Sentry is the most powerful Superman clone there is

2.Hulk won though.

3.Hyperion is weak...as hell.

4.He took down two Hyperions? Sentry through his alter ego into the sun..You can't even do that it's like punching reality..but he did it.

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I don't think Sentry could take King Hyperion. He would have a hard time with Supreme Power Hyperion. And a think Majestic is the most powerful Superman clone.

KH toyed with some opponents that would have given WWH pause."

"Alpha said:

"Vance Astro said:

"Zoom said:

"Vance Astro said:

"Hulk.CURBSTOMP"

Just trying to be different?  Hulk barely beat Sentry.  Sentry's the low end of Superman clones.  Half the time, he fails to even get out of bed in the morning.  King Hyperion is the high end, taking down two other Hyperions on his own."

1.Sentry is the most powerful Superman clone there is

2.Hulk won though.

3.Hyperion is weak...as hell.

4.He took down two Hyperions? Sentry through his alter ego into the sun..You can't even do that it's like punching reality..but he did it.

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I don't think Sentry could take King Hyperion. He would have a hard time with Supreme Power Hyperion. And a think Majestic is the most powerful Superman clone.

KH toyed with some opponents that would have given WWH pause."

Majestic is the most powerful Superman clone period..not in Marvel.Sentry could beat any version of Hyperion.Classic Sentry almost reduced the Hulk to tears in seconds,he fought Galactus to a standstill,and late New Avengers Sentry killed a planet destroying Herald of Galactus with no problem.

WWH has unlimited strength..and so does the Sentry.

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Thanks.

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King Hyperion took down his reality's Galactus and Thor and he's killed at least two versions of the Hulk.

King Hyperion is so much more powerful than Sentry it's not even funny.

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"Vance Astro said:

"Alpha said: Majestic is the most powerful Superman clone period..not in Marvel.Sentry could beat any version of Hyperion.Classic Sentry almost reduced the Hulk to tears in seconds,he fought Galactus to a standstill,and late New Avengers Sentry killed a planet destroying Herald of Galactus with no problem.

WWH has unlimited strength..and so does the Sentry.

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No arguement on Majestic.  King Hyperion's still on the high end.

But that's the difference between them.  Sentry can (supposedly) go toe to toe with Galactus.  King Hyperion can kill Galactus.  He can take a herald.  King Hyperion can kill the real thing.  Sentry can make the Hulk cry.  King Hyperion can kill the Hulk.

A blast of hellfire made WWH scream like a little baby.  Going against a hypersonic guy with heat vision strong enough to kill Namora in one shot underwater is gonna make him scream a lot more.  And what's Hulk really gonna do to him?  Even if Hulk managed to grab him and twist his head completely around, it won't kill the King.

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"Namora has also killed Hulks and presumably a version of Sentry.

Lifting strength isn't important.  Hulk won't even hit him.

The Juggernaut's punches hurt WWH.  What makes you think Hyperion's can't?"

"Oh, obviously.

We know Hulk can beat Hyperion because the versions of Hulk Hyperion killed like they were nothing were obviously weaker than 616 Hulk.  Because Hyperion beat them.  That's completely circular logic."

"Zoom said:

"Namora has also killed Hulks and presumably a version of Sentry.

Lifting strength isn't important.  Hulk won't even hit him.

The Juggernaut's punches hurt WWH.  What makes you think Hyperion's can't?"

She has never killed a version of the Sentry and obviously those Hulks were weaker than 616 Hulk.

Hulk will hit him..just because he's faster than Hulk doesn't mean he's not going to get a hit off...he has been able to hit countless people who are way faster than him.

Juggernaut didn't hurt Hulk and What makes you think Hyperion is more powerful than Juggernaut? Because he killed another worlds version of people who maybe weaker than 616's? Juggernaut punched through reality...you can't just do that without being ridiculously strong.

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"Vance Astro said:

"Zoom said:

"Namora has also killed Hulks and presumably a version of Sentry.

Lifting strength isn't important.  Hulk won't even hit him.

The Juggernaut's punches hurt WWH.  What makes you think Hyperion's can't?"

She has never killed a version of the Sentry and obviously those Hulks were weaker than 616 Hulk.

Hulk will hit him..just because he's faster than Hulk doesn't mean he's not going to get a hit off...he has been able to hit countless people who are way faster than him.

Juggernaut didn't hurt Hulk and What makes you think Hyperion is more powerful than Juggernaut? Because he killed another worlds version of people who maybe weaker than 616's? Juggernaut punched through reality...you can't just do that without being ridiculously strong.

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Juggernaut is stronger than Hyperion, Juggernaut was strong enough to manhandle Professor Hulk, Sentry could beat King Hyperion but fighting Galactus to a standstill doesn't mean anything, Galactus could have been hungry and weak. Nonetheless Sentry is stronger, Juggernaut is stronger than King Hyperion, King Hyperion could be a match for World War Hulk maybe."

I didn't mention it as a feat, fighting Galactus to a standstill is an impressive feat even when Galactus is hungry or weak, I'm saying that because the possibility of Sentry fighting Galactus when Galactus is fully powered is usbsured, that would make Sentry higher than Skyfathers, Sentry is strong really strong but he is not that strong.

If I am not mistaken, we have never actually seen the battle that the Sentry or King Hyperion had with Galactus played out in comics. We may have seen a single panel flashback but not the actual fighting. Therefore we don't know the condition of Galactus or anything else about the fights.
So if we have no detail on how each one, I would eliminate them from this argument as they provide nothing relevant to the discussion.

"If I am not mistaken, we have never actually seen the battle that the Sentry or King Hyperion had with Galactus played out in comics. We may have seen a single panel flashback but not the actual fighting. Therefore we don't know the condition of Galactus or anything else about the fights.
So if we have no detail on how each one, I would eliminate them from this argument as they provide nothing relevant to the discussion."

"the creator said:

"If I am not mistaken, we have never actually seen the battle that the Sentry or King Hyperion had with Galactus played out in comics. We may have seen a single panel flashback but not the actual fighting. Therefore we don't know the condition of Galactus or anything else about the fights.
So if we have no detail on how each one, I would eliminate them from this argument as they provide nothing relevant to the discussion."

Well that was basically what I was saying but I  did mention the Galactus feat in Sentry's favor because we know what 616 Galactus is capable of.Both feats are basically inapplicable.I stil say the Sentry wins because I don't see any reason why Hyperion should beat him when nobody else but the Hulk had a chance and with the Sentry not being at full power."

"Vance Astro said:

"the creator said:

"If I am not mistaken, we have never actually seen the battle that the Sentry or King Hyperion had with Galactus played out in comics. We may have seen a single panel flashback but not the actual fighting. Therefore we don't know the condition of Galactus or anything else about the fights.
So if we have no detail on how each one, I would eliminate them from this argument as they provide nothing relevant to the discussion."

Well that was basically what I was saying but I  did mention the Galactus feat in Sentry's favor because we know what 616 Galactus is capable of.Both feats are basically inapplicable.I stil say the Sentry wins because I don't see any reason why Hyperion should beat him when nobody else but the Hulk had a chance and with the Sentry not being at full power."

Well of course, Hulk isn't the only one, Red Hulk and Thor probably have a chance. Maybe even the Silver Surfer."

"Theracles said:

"Vance Astro said:

"the creator said:

"If I am not mistaken, we have never actually seen the battle that the Sentry or King Hyperion had with Galactus played out in comics. We may have seen a single panel flashback but not the actual fighting. Therefore we don't know the condition of Galactus or anything else about the fights.
So if we have no detail on how each one, I would eliminate them from this argument as they provide nothing relevant to the discussion."

Well that was basically what I was saying but I  did mention the Galactus feat in Sentry's favor because we know what 616 Galactus is capable of.Both feats are basically inapplicable.I stil say the Sentry wins because I don't see any reason why Hyperion should beat him when nobody else but the Hulk had a chance and with the Sentry not being at full power."

Well of course, Hulk isn't the only one, Red Hulk and Thor probably have a chance. Maybe even the Silver Surfer."

Against the Sentry? Don't think so.People obviously don't read Sentry so I have to keep saying this...The Sentry has not shown what he can really do yet."

"Vance Astro said:

"Theracles said:

"Vance Astro said:

"the creator said:

"If I am not mistaken, we have never actually seen the battle that the Sentry or King Hyperion had with Galactus played out in comics. We may have seen a single panel flashback but not the actual fighting. Therefore we don't know the condition of Galactus or anything else about the fights.
So if we have no detail on how each one, I would eliminate them from this argument as they provide nothing relevant to the discussion."

Well that was basically what I was saying but I  did mention the Galactus feat in Sentry's favor because we know what 616 Galactus is capable of.Both feats are basically inapplicable.I stil say the Sentry wins because I don't see any reason why Hyperion should beat him when nobody else but the Hulk had a chance and with the Sentry not being at full power."

Well of course, Hulk isn't the only one, Red Hulk and Thor probably have a chance. Maybe even the Silver Surfer."

Against the Sentry? Don't think so.People obviously don't read Sentry so I have to keep saying this...The Sentry has not shown what he can really do yet."

Ok, but Thor definately has a chance because I don't see how Sentry could ever beat Odin."

"WWH of course!!!"

I'm not even sure of what King Hyperion can do.He hasn't proved anything to me..so for me..I'm comparing Hulk's unlimited strength to some feats we haven't actually seen from Hyperion.

Im not a hulk fan at all and hate to admit it but Im leaning to towards Astro's opinion.

"Vance Astro said:

"Theracles said:

"Vance Astro said:

"Theracles said:

"Vance Astro said:

"the creator said:

"If I am not mistaken, we have never actually seen the battle that the Sentry or King Hyperion had with Galactus played out in comics. We may have seen a single panel flashback but not the actual fighting. Therefore we don't know the condition of Galactus or anything else about the fights.
So if we have no detail on how each one, I would eliminate them from this argument as they provide nothing relevant to the discussion."

Well that was basically what I was saying but I  did mention the Galactus feat in Sentry's favor because we know what 616 Galactus is capable of.Both feats are basically inapplicable.I stil say the Sentry wins because I don't see any reason why Hyperion should beat him when nobody else but the Hulk had a chance and with the Sentry not being at full power."

Well of course, Hulk isn't the only one, Red Hulk and Thor probably have a chance. Maybe even the Silver Surfer."

Against the Sentry? Don't think so.People obviously don't read Sentry so I have to keep saying this...The Sentry has not shown what he can really do yet."

Ok, but Thor definately has a chance because I don't see how Sentry could ever beat Odin."

I don't think Red Hulk can beat Odin...but he beat Thor."

red hulk cant touch odin"

"If I am not mistaken, we have never actually seen the battle that the Sentry or King Hyperion had with Galactus played out in comics. We may have seen a single panel flashback but not the actual fighting. Therefore we don't know the condition of Galactus or anything else about the fights.
So if we have no detail on how each one, I would eliminate them from this argument as they provide nothing relevant to the discussion."

"Theracles said:

"Vance Astro said:

"the creator said:

"If I am not mistaken, we have never actually seen the battle that the Sentry or King Hyperion had with Galactus played out in comics. We may have seen a single panel flashback but not the actual fighting. Therefore we don't know the condition of Galactus or anything else about the fights.
So if we have no detail on how each one, I would eliminate them from this argument as they provide nothing relevant to the discussion."

Well that was basically what I was saying but I  did mention the Galactus feat in Sentry's favor because we know what 616 Galactus is capable of.Both feats are basically inapplicable.I stil say the Sentry wins because I don't see any reason why Hyperion should beat him when nobody else but the Hulk had a chance and with the Sentry not being at full power."

Well of course, Hulk isn't the only one, Red Hulk and Thor probably have a chance. Maybe even the Silver Surfer."

Against the Sentry? Don't think so.People obviously don't read Sentry so I have to keep saying this...The Sentry has not shown what he can really do yet."

"Vance Astro said:

"Theracles said:

"Vance Astro said:

"the creator said:

"If I am not mistaken, we have never actually seen the battle that the Sentry or King Hyperion had with Galactus played out in comics. We may have seen a single panel flashback but not the actual fighting. Therefore we don't know the condition of Galactus or anything else about the fights.
So if we have no detail on how each one, I would eliminate them from this argument as they provide nothing relevant to the discussion."

Well that was basically what I was saying but I  did mention the Galactus feat in Sentry's favor because we know what 616 Galactus is capable of.Both feats are basically inapplicable.I stil say the Sentry wins because I don't see any reason why Hyperion should beat him when nobody else but the Hulk had a chance and with the Sentry not being at full power."

Well of course, Hulk isn't the only one, Red Hulk and Thor probably have a chance. Maybe even the Silver Surfer."

Against the Sentry? Don't think so.People obviously don't read Sentry so I have to keep saying this...The Sentry has not shown what he can really do yet."

I doubt he ever will, Vance, unless Marvel gets a hold of the character and show's some proper feats, instead of relying on hyperbole and relying on people believing he's one of the strongest, as opposed to actually being one of the strongest! Until he does show what he can REALLY do, then it all means nothing!"

"lordraiden said:

"Vance Astro said:

"Theracles said:

"Vance Astro said:

"the creator said:

"If I am not mistaken, we have never actually seen the battle that the Sentry or King Hyperion had with Galactus played out in comics. We may have seen a single panel flashback but not the actual fighting. Therefore we don't know the condition of Galactus or anything else about the fights.
So if we have no detail on how each one, I would eliminate them from this argument as they provide nothing relevant to the discussion."

Well that was basically what I was saying but I  did mention the Galactus feat in Sentry's favor because we know what 616 Galactus is capable of.Both feats are basically inapplicable.I stil say the Sentry wins because I don't see any reason why Hyperion should beat him when nobody else but the Hulk had a chance and with the Sentry not being at full power."

Well of course, Hulk isn't the only one, Red Hulk and Thor probably have a chance. Maybe even the Silver Surfer."

Against the Sentry? Don't think so.People obviously don't read Sentry so I have to keep saying this...The Sentry has not shown what he can really do yet."

I doubt he ever will, Vance, unless Marvel gets a hold of the character and show's some proper feats, instead of relying on hyperbole and relying on people believing he's one of the strongest, as opposed to actually being one of the strongest! Until he does show what he can REALLY do, then it all means nothing!"

He did smack WWHulk around. That says something."

"Alpha said:

"lordraiden said:

"Vance Astro said:

"Theracles said:

"Vance Astro said:

"the creator said:

"If I am not mistaken, we have never actually seen the battle that the Sentry or King Hyperion had with Galactus played out in comics. We may have seen a single panel flashback but not the actual fighting. Therefore we don't know the condition of Galactus or anything else about the fights.
So if we have no detail on how each one, I would eliminate them from this argument as they provide nothing relevant to the discussion."

Well that was basically what I was saying but I  did mention the Galactus feat in Sentry's favor because we know what 616 Galactus is capable of.Both feats are basically inapplicable.I stil say the Sentry wins because I don't see any reason why Hyperion should beat him when nobody else but the Hulk had a chance and with the Sentry not being at full power."

Well of course, Hulk isn't the only one, Red Hulk and Thor probably have a chance. Maybe even the Silver Surfer."

Against the Sentry? Don't think so.People obviously don't read Sentry so I have to keep saying this...The Sentry has not shown what he can really do yet."

I doubt he ever will, Vance, unless Marvel gets a hold of the character and show's some proper feats, instead of relying on hyperbole and relying on people believing he's one of the strongest, as opposed to actually being one of the strongest! Until he does show what he can REALLY do, then it all means nothing!"

He did smack WWHulk around. That says something."

What, with his face :-) Yeah, course he laid a smack down or two, i'd brought my comic back and damanded my money back from Marvel if he hadn't! I actually don't mind Sentry, just not as the hyperbole character he's represented with little/lack of feats to support him! And his smack or two, unfortunately, didn't take WWH down, he depowerd down at the end, as did Banner, who than punked Bob, then proceeded to change back to WWH minutes after while Bob was in la la land dreaming on the pavement!"

"StrongestOneThereIs said:

"Zoom said:

"King Hyperion has beaten multiple Hulks before no problem.

The only people arguing for Hulk are the ones that admitedly don't know a thing about King Hyperion."

Multiple Hulks that were weaker than the normal 616 Hulk. They have never shown any level of power to equal that of the Hulk.
Now we know what WWHulk is capable of. He beat others as easy as K. Hyperion did and he wasn't trying to kill them.
Like K Hyperion, he power was unequaled. And after saying that my choice is the Hulk.



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I say that Earth-4023's Hyperion takes the cake in this fight, it was said that every cell in his body is like a supercharged battery with a limitless amount as to how much sunlight it can transform into power for Hype to feed off of so as the battle would keep going Hyperion would just keep getting stronger and stronger by the second and at a rate which World War Hulk would be unable to match. Not only that but Hyperion recently took all of AoA Holocaust's power for himself by snorting it up through his nose like crack cocain thus increasing his level of power far beyond what it was when Holocaust tried killing him. Plus who is to say that the Galactus, Thor and Hulks Hyperion murdered weren't as strong as the originals? Plus, has everyone forgotten that almost every version of Hyperion (except for The Grandmaster's clone and the Hyperion who came from The Microverse) is an Eternal? Plus from the looks of it whichever Celestial created him it was obviously intending to create a Doomsday Weapon, which is what it got.

Also, just because we didn't see any feats from these alternates versions of characters Hyperion murdered doesn't mean you can automatically write them off as being weaker than the originals, that is an illogical assumption. There are many worlds where the counterparts are far more powerful than the originals like The Quasar of Earth-915 who merged with The Enigma Force and became "Captain Universe Prime" in order to take down The Phoenix Force-empowered Serpentine Elder God Set and then there was Rune King Thor from "The Reigning" (that was Rune King Thor right?) and who can forget The Pre-Retcon Beyonder empowered/Infinity Gauntlet-wielding Dr. Doom from the recent What If Secret Wars one-shot?

You cannot just say "Oh this Galactus and these Hulks were weaker" just because you haven't seen them do anything extravagent. You have to take into account the very high possibility that these alternates might have been equal to or greater than the originals in terms of strength, power and so on. That's just the way it works and to deny that truth is a very foolish mistake that only a narrow-minded person would make. You have to look at the larger picture here, not everything is black and white, there is always a spectrum of gray inbetween it all."