@glforthewin: King Hyperion would take Superman. King Hyperion is the one from the Exiles who conquered an entire earth. The Earth whose governments then nuked the crap out of it in order to beat him, realizing that the only way to kill him was for them all to die and then even that didn't work? Then he took out most of the Exiles, including Namora (her Earth's version of Namor), who had herself conquered an entire planet. Then he took on multiple copies of himself from other Earths (I think that it was somewhere between 4-6 of them) and was beating the for quite some time.
" @glforthewin: King Hyperion would take Superman. King Hyperion is the one from the Exiles who conquered an entire earth. The Earth whose governments then nuked the crap out of it in order to beat him, realizing that the only way to kill him was for them all to die and then even that didn't work? Then he took out most of the Exiles, including Namora (her Earth's version of Namor), who had herself conquered an entire planet. Then he took on multiple copies of himself from other Earths (I think that it was somewhere between 4-6 of them) and was beating the for quite some time. "
@TheJuggernautpunch: He pwned every Marvel hero and villian that there was + ALL of his earth's governments. There last resort was throwing all of their nukes at him, in the process throwing the entire planet into nuclear winter and killing all of the people that Hyperion hadn't already killed and even that didn't stop him.
@TheJuggernautpunch: He pwned Thor and Galactus...among others.
@courtney12490 said:
" @TheJuggernautpunch: He pwned every Marvel hero and villian that there was + ALL of his earth's governments. There last resort was throwing all of their nukes at him, in the process throwing the entire planet into nuclear winter and killing all of the people that Hyperion hadn't already killed and even that didn't stop him. "
" @TheJuggernautpunch: He pwned every Marvel hero and villian that there was + ALL of his earth's governments. There last resort was throwing all of their nukes at him, in the process throwing the entire planet into nuclear winter and killing all of the people that Hyperion hadn't already killed and even that didn't stop him. "
Maybe so, but what do the heroes and villains of that earth have as far as feats? SuperMan has a lot of feats that even King Hyperion doesn't have.
@Donnieman v5.1: Pwning Thor is not impressive . He isn't even close to Superman . Pwning Galactus was OFF-Panel . And we don't know how fed he was at that time .
" @Donnieman v5.1: Pwning Thor is not impressive . He isn't even close to Superman . Pwning Galactus was OFF-Panel . And we don't know how fed he was at that time . "
I could be wrong on this, but to me, using a stated feat like that is like using Sentry's supposed stalemating of Galactus.
@Silver2467: For the sixteen issues that he's appeared in, he has an insane amount of feats. @TheJuggernautpunch: How about pwning Namora, who had conquered her respected Earth, how about pwning most of the Exiles AT ONCE, how about very nearly pwning two alternate versions of himself? Not only that, but he went on to conquer several other Earths using the Timebreakers and the Tallus as his method of transportation.
" @Silver2467: For the sixteen issues that he's appeared in, he has an insane amount of feats. @TheJuggernautpunch: How about pwning Namora, who had conquered her respected Earth, how about pwning most of the Exiles AT ONCE, how about very nearly pwning two alternate versions of himself? Not only that, but he went on to conquer several other Earths using the Timebreakers and the Tallus as his method of transportation. "
@courtney12490: I asked for the feats of the heroes and villains he defeated.
You don't wanna play the SuperMan feat game with me though. Even if I'm proven wrong, I will list anything and everything SuperMan has done that's impressive. As an example of a few: SuperMan helped move the planet. He moved the Mageddon machinery. He's taken a supernova and was only knocked out. He's gone into a black hole. He's gone into the core of the sun. He's defeated such powerful opponents as Darkseid, Doomsday, Brainiac, Zod, Mongul, and numerous others.
@Silver2467: Hey , those are low feats for Superman :D He actually moved planets by himself , absorbed the Mageddon Warhead ( we both know how powerful that thing is ) , he held black holes , he can go much faster than FTL , and so on and so on and so on !
@courtney12490: As Juggernautpunch pointed out, Supes absorbed the Mageddon warhead which could have destroyed half a galaxy. He's flown between galaxies in very short amounts of time. He's held a miniature black hole in his hand. He's destroyed a moon.
See, you don't wanna play this game.
@TheJuggernautpunch said:
He actually moved planets by himself
With Hal Jordan in the Starbreaker situation? That was actually a flashback that Starbreaker had to Silver Age Supes. That doesn't count. Even still though, the Mageddon machinery was way larger than earth is. That's even more impressive than moving a planet.
@Silver2467: I know that in most debates against you, I'm going to lose. Also, Supes has an insane amount of feats, I'm not saying that King Hyperion doesn't, but Superman's been around A LOT longer.
@Silver2467: No , IIRC , as Electro-Superman he moved Moon ( and Electro-Superman was less powerful than original ) . And yeah , moving Mageddon Warhead is impressive , indeed .
" @Silver2467: I know that in most debates against you, I'm going to lose. Also, Supes has an insane amount of feats, I'm not saying that King Hyperion doesn't, but Superman's been around A LOT longer. "
Well, don't back down just because you think I'm a good debator. If I'm wrong, prove me wrong. I'm just saying, with SuperMan, there's a lot of feats to play with during debates.
@TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @Silver2467: No , IIRC , as Electro-Superman he moved Moon ( and Electro-Superman was less powerful than original ) . And yeah , moving Mageddon Warhead is impressive , indeed . "
I wasn't talking about him moving a moon. I was talking about him moving the planet with Jordan. That was a flashback to SA Supes that Starbreaker had, if I remember right.
" @Silver2467: I gave you another strength feat of Superman , what are you complaining about ? "
Sorry. I wasn't trying to nag you about that one. You just never acknowledged anything after I said that it was SA Supes. My bad. You're right though. Supes has an obscene amount of feats to be used in debates. He won't win every fight, but he is powerful.
@courtney12490: King Hyperior needed Rogue's power to destroy an astroid and was killed by both an alternate version of She Hulk and Gambit, he isn't in Supermans league
This fight would be awesome! So much cheesy villain dialogue. Maestro takes this once he gets semi-serious, tears KH to pieces, and adds another piece of memorabilia to his trophy room.
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