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#1 Edited by Jhan232 (31 posts) - - Show Bio

After i posted

King Bradley vs Batman and King Bradley vs Captain America

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/king-bradley-vs-captain-america-1489215/

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/king-bradley-vs-batman-1488458/

you guys all said that Wrath will w/o a doubt murder this two guys because of his superior speed

now let us try the Fuhrer against our very own

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN!!!

Conditions:

Battle to death

Morals off

Both Blood lusted

Win by death alone

Bradley has his usual dual sabers

All Spider Man's feats in the comics

All Wrath's feats in manga

Random encounter on a Forest

vs

#2 Posted by Strider92 (16760 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhan232 said:

AMAZING/SUPERIOR/ULTIMATE/SPECTACULAR/AVENGING SPIDER-MAN!!!

I'm confused. Which Spider-man we using lol?

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#3 Posted by Jhan232 (31 posts) - - Show Bio
#4 Edited by Strider92 (16760 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhan232: Nope. Superior Spider-man is an evil, mass murdering, psychopath who doesn't hold back. Amazing Spider-man is the most versatile but holds back however he's still the all round most capable version of Spidey. Ultimate depending if its Miles or Peter are quite in-experienced but have roughly the same stats as Amazing. Apart from Miles who has an added Venom attack.

If your looking for the most dangerous version of Spider-man then its Morals Off Amazing Spider-man.

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#5 Posted by KnightOfZero (1805 posts) - - Show Bio

spiderman should take this. his spider sense will allow him to dodge most of what bradly can do. plus his webbing allows him to attack from a distance and make bradly unable to attack.

#6 Posted by Theorder14 (1586 posts) - - Show Bio

@knightofzero: I highly doubt the webs would even tag Bradley lol

#7 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (19526 posts) - - Show Bio

@knightofzero: I highly doubt the webs would even tag Bradley lol

Yeah, considering he dodges bullets when he isn't even looking..

#8 Edited by KnightOfZero (1805 posts) - - Show Bio

@theorder14 @princearagorn1im not saying that bradly isnt fast, but spiderman has done the same thing: dodge bullets from multiple targets. but the thing is, i dont think bradly can hit spiderman due to spider sense. and if we assume that their speeds are equal, its not far off to say that in close quarters, spiderman cant manage to web up bradly. it might take a few tries and he might be able to cut through the webbing once or twice, but i think eventually that spiderman can web up bradly completly and then it's gg

#9 Posted by TheCerealKillz (10269 posts) - - Show Bio

Bradley gets wrecked.

#10 Edited by Flash_Batarang22 (70 posts) - - Show Bio

Let me make this clear

Bradley would really destroy Batman's overrated ass
but CA will definitely put up a good fight against Wrath

now for Spidey

considering that Spidey himself is FAST too and has his SPIDER EFFING SENSE + his webs

our Amazing Spidey takes this

he can defeat the fuhrer mid to hard difficulty

#11 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (19526 posts) - - Show Bio

@theorder14 @princearagorn1im not saying that bradly isnt fast, but spiderman has done the same thing: dodge bullets from multiple targets. but the thing is, i dont think bradly can hit spiderman due to spider sense. and if we assume that their speeds are equal, its not far off to say that in close quarters, spiderman cant manage to web up bradly. it might take a few tries and he might be able to cut through the webbing once or twice, but i think eventually that spiderman can web up bradly completly and then it's gg

I can see that. Spiderman is definitely one of the guys who can keep safe distance and entangle bradley..

#12 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7043 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-man stomps.

#13 Edited by Strider92 (16760 posts) - - Show Bio

@theorder14: Well Spider-mans webbing has consistently out performed bullets so making an assumption that Bradley can't be tagged by webbing because he's faster than bullets is void as webbing has proven to be faster.

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#14 Posted by Theorder14 (1586 posts) - - Show Bio

@strider92: possibly if the webs aren't seen but i don't see it tag Bradley if he use his ultimate eye

#15 Posted by dondave (38795 posts) - - Show Bio

Peter

#16 Posted by Marshall_Long (2264 posts) - - Show Bio

Imo this fight depends on the Area if it's a wide open area I'll give it to Spiderman if it's secluded I'll give it to Bradley.

#17 Posted by nickzambuto (14419 posts) - - Show Bio

@theorder14 said:

@knightofzero: I highly doubt the webs would even tag Bradley lol

Yeah, considering he dodges bullets when he isn't even looking..

Peter's spider sense guides his shots. He's even tagged Shadowland Daredevil that way, so it's safe to say he can snag Bradley.

#18 Posted by GhostRavage (9303 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman takes this easily.

#19 Posted by BlackWind (7046 posts) - - Show Bio

I love Wrath, but the man ain't that fast. His Ultimate Eye has the weakness in that he needs to see the danger to react. Spider Sense is a superior precog power. Also, Peter is far superior in reflexes, he has dodged far more modern firearms. A single hit will take Bradley out.

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#20 Edited by HtG (131 posts) - - Show Bio

Should be a decent fight, but forest setting and morals off I'd have to give it to Spiderman.

Bradley's pretty sick though.

#21 Posted by Zijuun (854 posts) - - Show Bio

I love Wrath, but the man ain't that fast. His Ultimate Eye has the weakness in that he needs to see the danger to react. Spider Sense is a superior precog power. Also, Peter is far superior in reflexes, he has dodged far more modern firearms. A single hit will take Bradley out.

This ^.

Z I J U U N

#22 Edited by Ostyo (9323 posts) - - Show Bio

@strider92: @htg: Yeah, htg is completely right about this one. So why all the Bradley match ups?

#23 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (10696 posts) - - Show Bio

@ostyo: Because Wrath is awesome. lol

#24 Posted by Flash_Batarang22 (70 posts) - - Show Bio

@ostyo: Because Wrath can murder Batman, easy

#25 Edited by Silverrings (2291 posts) - - Show Bio

Very close fight, but ultimately Spiderman can hurt Brad more than Brad can hurt Spiderman, it's just getting their hands on each other that's difficult.

#26 Edited by Ostyo (9323 posts) - - Show Bio
#27 Posted by Dewin50 (600 posts) - - Show Bio

Bradley has Dodged Fire from Mustang after it was fired witch is Lightning speed so i think he's a bit faster in combat speed. And i think Spidey's sense would be equal to Bradley's Ultimate Eye. Now i can't say who would win since i don't know comic spidey that much but i think Bradley would take a few matches against spidey!

#28 Posted by Strongarm (5857 posts) - - Show Bio

webbed eyes

webbed swords

spidey sends wrath to the retirement home

#29 Edited by PrinceAragorn1 (19526 posts) - - Show Bio
@strongarm said:

webbed eyes

webbed swords

spidey sends wrath to the retirement home

Presuming bradley doesn't dodge them?

But yeah, I can see spiderman winning often depending on area.

@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk said:

@ostyo: Wrath is awesome.

/thread.

#30 Posted by Strongarm (5857 posts) - - Show Bio
#31 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (19526 posts) - - Show Bio

@princearagorn1: is this lame brotherhood version or good 2003 version?

I should flag you for saying that.

Brotherhood >> Original.

I refuse to acknowledge the question.

#32 Posted by Strongarm (5857 posts) - - Show Bio

@princearagorn1: The old one became anime of the dang year and won plenty of awards, it had more depth and spawned off a series of movies and games from its franchise.

Compared to brotherhood where everybody gained a few pounds of fat, scar's alchemical effects got lamer.

things that were 'missing'

  • Lust's relation with scar
  • Envy's magnificent bastardly
  • Gluttony significance
  • Izumi and wrath
  • Shou tucker's breakdown
  • Kimblee's sadism

the new version is a kiddy one

#33 Posted by Wolverine08 (45100 posts) - - Show Bio

Close one.

#34 Edited by Dewin50 (600 posts) - - Show Bio

@strongarm: Yeah but Brotherhood did alot of right things too! (My opinion)

  • The phasing of the story was Much much better in BH (AFTER Hughes dies))
  • Mustang was better and alot more badass
  • I personally liked Envy more in BH
  • Bradley was Amazingly better in BH
  • Father was an better Antagonist then Dante in every way
  • Hohenheim in BH >>>>>>>> Hohenheim in Original
  • Greed was better (When he came back in Ling)
  • The Overall Story was Better in BH

However there was alot the Original did better too

  • Hughes as a character (BH completley rushed him, Hate that)
  • There was alot of Dramatic moments in the Original that BH completley Ruined
  • Izumi was alot better in the original, BH totally rushed her even though she had a big role
  • Personally liked the Elric Brothers better in the Original
  • Lust was a character and had a story where in BH they almost made her non-existent
  • Liked that Homunculus was made out of human transmutation instead of being the living incarnations of Father's Emotions
  • Characters like Sloth and Wrath from the Original existed
  • Liked Scar more in Original

But in the end personally i liked Brotherhood more since it was more Solid.

I WISH they'd make a series that has the best of both since the Pro's n Con's don't contradict each other.

#35 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (10696 posts) - - Show Bio

@strongarm: Except that Brotherhood resembled the manga a lot better..

#36 Edited by Strongarm (5857 posts) - - Show Bio

@dewin50:

  • Mustang is just as badass in 2003, with bradley and archer [more development]
  • BH envy didn't do jack, got treated like a ho
  • He's not the main here
  • Dante is more crooked, and the did more focus on ishval
  • Ling is a filler
  • Nope, nope and nope
  • Plus they have Hitler in 2003
  • How can you forget the Fletcher brothers?

@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk: Does that make it better? no

#37 Edited by Dratini1331 (7040 posts) - - Show Bio

Ya know what? Fan vote time, Bradley wins, Zero ****s given.

#38 Edited by The_Dark_Lot (60 posts) - - Show Bio

@dewin50 said:

@strongarm: Yeah but Brotherhood did alot of right things too! (My opinion)

  • The phasing of the story was Much much better in BH (AFTER Hughes dies))
  • Mustang was better and alot more badass
  • I personally liked Envy more in BH
  • Bradley was Amazingly better in BH
  • Father was an better Antagonist then Dante in every way
  • Hohenheim in BH >>>>>>>> Hohenheim in Original
  • Greed was better (When he came back in Ling)
  • The Overall Story was Better in BH

However there was alot the Original did better too

  • Hughes as a character (BH completley rushed him, Hate that)
  • There was alot of Dramatic moments in the Original that BH completley Ruined
  • Izumi was alot better in the original, BH totally rushed her even though she had a big role
  • Personally liked the Elric Brothers better in the Original
  • Lust was a character and had a story where in BH they almost made her non-existent
  • Liked that Homunculus was made out of human transmutation instead of being the living incarnations of Father's Emotions
  • Characters like Sloth and Wrath from the Original existed
  • Liked Scar more in Original

But in the end personally i liked Brotherhood more since it was more Solid.

I WISH they'd make a series that has the best of both since the Pro's n Con's don't contradict each other.

I totally agree!

I think the beginning of the original was much better it was darker and I think not telling the story off the bat gave the series much more suspense. It was more twisted and accentuated the misery and sorrow that drives the human soul, highlighting the moral choices we make as we live and evolve as people.

I also liked the duality of the characters much better, characters were much more grey in the original, the homoculi swung from good to bad and weren't always just cliche evil villains. They went into the depth of Lust showing both facets of her nature and made the character live and breath. They also developed Hughes more, highlighting his morality and shining a spotlight on his good nature.

I liked where the story went better in brotherhood tho, the storyline was more dramatic toward the end and involved many more characters that tied in the FMA world allot better.

I think if they stuck more to the beginning of the original FMA and then went with Brotherhood for the middle/end while sticking with allot of the original character elements, you'd have a perfect version of FMA and an epic Anime series that might even be the best Anime series ever made.

#39 Edited by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20427 posts) - - Show Bio

@dewin50 said:

Bradley has Dodged Fire from Mustang after it was fired witch is Lightning speed so i think he's a bit faster in combat speed. And i think Spidey's sense would be equal to Bradley's Ultimate Eye. Now i can't say who would win since i don't know comic spidey that much but i think Bradley would take a few matches against spidey!

Bradley only dodged Mustang's fire manipulation because he wasn't expecting Wrath to bum rush them after standing there for an extended period of time. If the fight started off and both were focused on killing each other, Roy would stomp. Mustang was also able to hold back multiple super-soldiers (that were suppose to be Wrath).

#40 Edited by Dratini1331 (7040 posts) - - Show Bio

@dewin50 said:

Bradley has Dodged Fire from Mustang after it was fired witch is Lightning speed so i think he's a bit faster in combat speed. And i think Spidey's sense would be equal to Bradley's Ultimate Eye. Now i can't say who would win since i don't know comic spidey that much but i think Bradley would take a few matches against spidey!

Bradley only dodged Mustang's fire manipulation because he wasn't expecting Wrath to bum rush them after standing there for an extended period of time. If the fight started off and both were focused on killing each other, Roy would stomp. Mustang was also able to hold back multiple super-soldiers (that were suppose to be Wrath).

To be fair, those soldiers were all failures at being bradley. He was the best of all of them.

#41 Posted by Wolverine08 (45100 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh my, I just finished watching FMA: Brotherhood a week ago, and I can't remember anything from it.

#42 Edited by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20427 posts) - - Show Bio

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@dewin50 said:

Bradley has Dodged Fire from Mustang after it was fired witch is Lightning speed so i think he's a bit faster in combat speed. And i think Spidey's sense would be equal to Bradley's Ultimate Eye. Now i can't say who would win since i don't know comic spidey that much but i think Bradley would take a few matches against spidey!

Bradley only dodged Mustang's fire manipulation because he wasn't expecting Wrath to bum rush them after standing there for an extended period of time. If the fight started off and both were focused on killing each other, Roy would stomp. Mustang was also able to hold back multiple super-soldiers (that were suppose to be Wrath).

To be fair, those soldiers were all failures at being bradley. He was the best of all of them.

I'm aware. I recall the Gold-toothed Doctor saying "they're not as good as Bradley, but they're still fine soldiers", so something along those lines. I just referenced that because it shows that Roy has the reaction-time to hang with Wrath.

#43 Edited by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7043 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Wrath is a cool character, but let's stop wanking him please. It's true that he's badass, but Spider-man would wreck him so bad.

#44 Posted by Wolverine08 (45100 posts) - - Show Bio

Do I have amnesia?

#45 Posted by Dratini1331 (7040 posts) - - Show Bio

Do I have amnesia?

Do you remember that you owe me $100,000?

#46 Posted by Wolverine08 (45100 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08 said:

Do I have amnesia?

Do you remember that you owe me $100,000?

It was from that New Year's night, wasn't it?

#47 Edited by Dewin50 (600 posts) - - Show Bio

@strongarm:

  • Mustang had more Character in Bh in my opinion. Original handled the Ishval flashbacks better, it showed that it had an actual impact on him. BH showed more of him tough, showed him being clever and thinking out the plan for faking Maria Ross's death and his emotional side when handling Hughes Death. The fighting moments for Mustang in BH is really jaw-dropping, the felling of his actually power was not felt nor shown in the Original.
  • Riza (Hawkeye) and the relation between Mustang and Riza was better in BH (My opinion). Both series handled it kinda the same from the Beginning to Middle but closer to the end they really developed in BH (But in the end nothing happens... why?)
  • Bradley's Badassery was pouring through the windows the entire series (BH). His character was a mystery for the most part in BH but at the end you really see who he is and what kind of man he's really been. The original did the same but i just felt BH did it better, Both Badassnes and Character wise
  • I personally didn't care for archer that much during the series and then when he became.... The Terminator i couldn't take it seriously, It really felt out of place for me.
  • I don't understand what you're replying to with "He's not the main here" Hohenheim? If that's the case then it doesn't matter if he's a main character or not. We've heard so much about him the entire series and when he do show up he does nothing. He's supposed to be this great and powerful Alchemist that we've been hearing about and all he did was showing up and die In. The. Same. Episode!!!! Without putting up a fight even.. I mean... Ok? Was really disappointed with that when i first watched it.
  • This is a matter of opinion (Just as everything else really..). I liked Father better since he had a richer backstory and his goal was a much more interesting. As i said, Just opinions.
  • I would hardly call him a filler since he did stuff that affected the main story. And he was too big of a character.
  • Don't know what you're referring to (Again) with "Nope, nope and nope"
  • HEIL HITLER!! (JK) But that thing with (Our world) kinda actually bugged me. It came out of nowhere and had no reason for it to be there. I mean we're at the end, now is the time to close active plots/stories not bring in something new that's really big and has no reason and explanation. It reminded me a bit of the Mass Effect 3 ending, Something new and Really Big comes out of nowhere and changes things to weird directions. I did like the actual ending though of the Brothers being split from each other.
  • They're story was actually interesting but they felt like no more then a filler for me

#48 Edited by PrinceAragorn1 (19526 posts) - - Show Bio

@dratini1331 said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@dewin50 said:

Bradley has Dodged Fire from Mustang after it was fired witch is Lightning speed so i think he's a bit faster in combat speed. And i think Spidey's sense would be equal to Bradley's Ultimate Eye. Now i can't say who would win since i don't know comic spidey that much but i think Bradley would take a few matches against spidey!

Bradley only dodged Mustang's fire manipulation because he wasn't expecting Wrath to bum rush them after standing there for an extended period of time. If the fight started off and both were focused on killing each other, Roy would stomp. Mustang was also able to hold back multiple super-soldiers (that were suppose to be Wrath).

To be fair, those soldiers were all failures at being bradley. He was the best of all of them.

I'm aware. I recall the Gold-toothed Doctor saying "they're not as good as Bradley, but they're still fine soldiers", so something along those lines. I just referenced that because it shows that Roy has the reaction-time to hang with Wrath.

After dodging the first two bullets, those guys got repeatedly tagged by them, besides getting caught off guard by a chimera. Not to mention mustang was kicking a few of them. Bradley handled two people as fast, if not faster, than mustang with soldiers assisting them.

Besides, the super-soldiers still easily supressed all of them later anyway.

And as far as I recall, all of them were just well trained people. Bradley clearly remarked that his current body had completely surpassed human capacities.

Roy isn't doing anything to bradley at all.

This is what's gonna happen if they fought anyway:

or going by the 03 version,

Oh, he won't be sitting down in any seat for a while ;)

(sorry, someone *had* to make that meme/joke)

#49 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (10696 posts) - - Show Bio

@strongarm: Ling isn't filler... he's in the manga

#50 Posted by Strongarm (5857 posts) - - Show Bio

@dewin50: Hoenheim is still the main in the 2003 series, up to extended media

@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk: Role wise? some rich kid who wants to be king, he stole Greed's time in the series. In the old one he is more fleshed out.