#1 Posted by MasterJohn (2471 posts) - - Show Bio
Mace Windu Unleashed

Morals off, bloodlust off.

Battle ends in death.

Battle takes place on Kashyyyk.

Who wins?

#2 Posted by P0rtal (856 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, after the events of Ep3, The Emperor hunted for ancient sith knowledge and spent a great deal of time improving his powers and techniques, even making new ones up as he went along. He taught some to Vader, so Vader should SOLO the three Jedi Masters at the same time. I mean, if you are going to use include the Force Unleashed story ( ughhh ) by that time, Starkiller could bring down a Star Destroyer by force pulling it and he only barely managed to beat Vader. The gap between Return of the Jedi Vader and Ep3 Jedi masters is massive.

Tenabris is just a bonus, Vader wouldnt need him.

#3 Edited by ShootingNova (13041 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait, what? Seriously? Vader solo? Nobody is soling here, and Vader gets stomped if he tries to solo. And LOL at Tenebrous being a bonus. Tenebrous is stronger than Vader.

@P0rtal said:

Starkiller could bring down a Star Destroyer by force pulling it and he only barely managed to beat Vader.

For the billionth time, Galen Marek did not pull down a Star Destroyer, it was already falling and he merely guided its trajectory to the Junk Cannon.

#4 Posted by MasterJohn (2471 posts) - - Show Bio

Who wins then?

#5 Posted by ShootingNova (13041 posts) - - Show Bio

We don't have a whole lot of feats from Tenebrous, but I'm confident in his ability to take down Kit Fisto and Mundi. This leaves Vader and him against Mace, who loses.

#6 Posted by P0rtal (856 posts) - - Show Bio

You can't say for sure. Vader and Sidious were supposed to be the two most powerful force users of all time. Mace was dumb enough to not see Anikans attack coming, and Sidious fended off FOUR...count them...FOUR Jedi Masters with enough skill to coax Mace exactly where he needed to be and end the fight just as Anikan ran inside. Yes, Darth Vader SOLOS all of them. His power drastically increased after the events of Episode 3. None of the Jedi masters prior were even remotely close.

@ShootingNova said:

Wait, what? Seriously? Vader solo? Nobody is soling here, and Vader gets stomped if he tries to solo. And LOL at Tenebrous being a bonus. Tenebrous is stronger than Vader.

@P0rtal said:

Starkiller could bring down a Star Destroyer by force pulling it and he only barely managed to beat Vader.

For the billionth time, Galen Marek did not pull down a Star Destroyer, it was already falling and he merely guided its trajectory to the Junk Cannon.

#7 Edited by ShootingNova (13041 posts) - - Show Bio

@P0rtal: No, they are not the two most powerful Force users. Luke and Palpatine are, but in theory, the Bedlam Spirits are (followed by the Ones and Abeloth).

I am well aware of how powerful Vader was after RotS, thank you very much, and I am also well aware that he does not solo all of them. He can defeat them all individually, but not solo them.

And for that matter, Tenebrous is stronger than Vader anyways. Far superior speed and agility, significantly better Force barrier, superior TK, and more knowledge on various esoteric Force powers.