Both current or modern incarnations. My money is once again on Kenshiro.
Kenshiro (Fist of the North Star) Vs Naruto
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"Vance Astro said:Kenshiro moves faster than sight. He has the strength to topple skyscrapers. Every blow he has is lethal."If Naruto has all the power available to him he has a chance...but Ken would most likely beat him."Not unless Naruto releases his ransangan. if it's the shippudan then Naruto would win in a curbstomp. His rasangan would finish him off from the inside out."
There is absolutely NO WAY Naruto can hit Kenshiro with a Rasengan. Even if he did, it wouldn't kill him (who has tanked hits from a man who hits people throgh mountains).
"Hedatary said:Rasangan doesn't effect from the outside, it effects it from the insides of his opponents. This techniques completely destroys there insides in a cellular level. For ever little cell within his body, the rasangan destroys it from individual nanno like blades from the rasangan. Naruto would destroy him with that technique. And he has no protection for his intestines or the heart or whatever. If naruto gets him in the head, his brain will shred like paper."Vance Astro said:Kenshiro moves faster than sight. He has the strength to topple skyscrapers. Every blow he has is lethal."If Naruto has all the power available to him he has a chance...but Ken would most likely beat him."Not unless Naruto releases his ransangan. if it's the shippudan then Naruto would win in a curbstomp. His rasangan would finish him off from the inside out."
There is absolutely NO WAY Naruto can hit Kenshiro with a Rasengan. Even if he did, it wouldn't kill him (who has tanked hits from a man who hits people throgh mountains)."
"I dont know exactly how powerful Kenshiro is, but if Naruto went into 4 tailed mode I think it'd be a pretty good fight, once again, dont hate on me for not knowing anything about Ken"
He touched a guy's forehead and made it explode.
"Warsman said:Fine, Naruto goes demon and does that kamahamaha shit on him. He's dead from that. No way he could survive something that could level an entire forest."Kenshiro. Badly."Indeed"
Warsman said:
"Resonate said:He cant' exactly touch something that is protected by a barrier."I dont know exactly how powerful Kenshiro is, but if Naruto went into 4 tailed mode I think it'd be a pretty good fight, once again, dont hate on me for not knowing anything about Ken"
He touched a guy's forehead and made it explode."
"King Saturn said:Kenshiro has insane durability... well some what I mean the dude has survived explosions and buildings falling on him"Warsman said:Fine, Naruto goes demon and does that kamahamaha shit on him. He's dead from that. No way he could survive something that could level an entire forest."Kenshiro. Badly."Indeed"
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"Hedatary said:Narutos 4 tailed form destroyed an enormous forest with him just standing in it, and he was basically untouchable...does that count? xD"King Saturn said:Kenshiro has insane durability... well some what I mean the dude has survived explosions and buildings falling on him""Warsman said:Fine, Naruto goes demon and does that kamahamaha shit on him. He's dead from that. No way he could survive something that could level an entire forest."Kenshiro. Badly."Indeed"
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We havent even seen it actually fight yet
"King Saturn said:I guess so... but Naruto better not let Kenshiro touch him or the fight is over"Hedatary said:Narutos 4 tailed form destroyed an enormous forest with him just standing in it, and he was basically untouchable...does that count? xD"King Saturn said:Kenshiro has insane durability... well some what I mean the dude has survived explosions and buildings falling on him""Warsman said:Fine, Naruto goes demon and does that kamahamaha shit on him. He's dead from that. No way he could survive something that could level an entire forest."Kenshiro. Badly."Indeed"
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We havent even seen it actually fight yet"
"Kimikirai said:Think for a minute."Hedatary said:Rasangan doesn't effect from the outside, it effects it from the insides of his opponents. This techniques completely destroys there insides in a cellular level. For ever little cell within his body, the rasangan destroys it from individual nanno like blades from the rasangan. Naruto would destroy him with that technique. And he has no protection for his intestines or the heart or whatever. If naruto gets him in the head, his brain will shred like paper.""Vance Astro said:Kenshiro moves faster than sight. He has the strength to topple skyscrapers. Every blow he has is lethal."If Naruto has all the power available to him he has a chance...but Ken would most likely beat him."Not unless Naruto releases his ransangan. if it's the shippudan then Naruto would win in a curbstomp. His rasangan would finish him off from the inside out."
There is absolutely NO WAY Naruto can hit Kenshiro with a Rasengan. Even if he did, it wouldn't kill him (who has tanked hits from a man who hits people throgh mountains)."
How fast is Rassengan to pull out? How did he hit Kazuku with it? SO! You have a guy who moves faster than Rock lee with gates (Rock Lee can be seen when moving)... every move (from ranged to h2h) is lethal... and he has superhuman senses. Naruto wouldn't even get a chance to charge Rassengan.
"King Saturn said:Not even the sword of the kusanagi could touch it. And that is something to rival the staff that the 3rd hokage used, which is harder than the hardest of diamonds."Hedatary said:Narutos 4 tailed form destroyed an enormous forest with him just standing in it, and he was basically untouchable...does that count? xD"King Saturn said:Kenshiro has insane durability... well some what I mean the dude has survived explosions and buildings falling on him""Warsman said:Fine, Naruto goes demon and does that kamahamaha shit on him. He's dead from that. No way he could survive something that could level an entire forest."Kenshiro. Badly."Indeed"
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We havent even seen it actually fight yet"
"Resonate said:his skin is boiling, so Kens fist would be sorta ffed up if he touched him at all"King Saturn said:I guess so... but Naruto better not let Kenshiro touch him or the fight is over""Hedatary said:Narutos 4 tailed form destroyed an enormous forest with him just standing in it, and he was basically untouchable...does that count? xD"King Saturn said:Kenshiro has insane durability... well some what I mean the dude has survived explosions and buildings falling on him""Warsman said:Fine, Naruto goes demon and does that kamahamaha shit on him. He's dead from that. No way he could survive something that could level an entire forest."Kenshiro. Badly."Indeed"
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We havent even seen it actually fight yet"
"Hedatary said:So your comparing his speed to rock lee? Rock lee is amazingly fast but Rock lee doesn't even stand a ghost of a chance against his sensai, who is MUCH stronger. If the anime didn't make the episodes so crap and made it into an actual quality like they did with bleach, then it would have been hell of allot more dramatic with much better effects.]"Kimikirai said:Think for a minute."Hedatary said:Rasangan doesn't effect from the outside, it effects it from the insides of his opponents. This techniques completely destroys there insides in a cellular level. For ever little cell within his body, the rasangan destroys it from individual nanno like blades from the rasangan. Naruto would destroy him with that technique. And he has no protection for his intestines or the heart or whatever. If naruto gets him in the head, his brain will shred like paper.""Vance Astro said:Kenshiro moves faster than sight. He has the strength to topple skyscrapers. Every blow he has is lethal."If Naruto has all the power available to him he has a chance...but Ken would most likely beat him."Not unless Naruto releases his ransangan. if it's the shippudan then Naruto would win in a curbstomp. His rasangan would finish him off from the inside out."
There is absolutely NO WAY Naruto can hit Kenshiro with a Rasengan. Even if he did, it wouldn't kill him (who has tanked hits from a man who hits people throgh mountains)."
How fast is Rassengan to pull out? How did he hit Kazuku with it? SO! You have a guy who moves faster than Rock lee with gates (Rock Lee can be seen when moving)... every move (from ranged to h2h) is lethal... and he has superhuman senses. Naruto wouldn't even get a chance to charge Rassengan.
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And besides, this is a thousand to one. Naruto with a thousand against only one opponent. Naruto at the age of 12 stopped a giant snake with his bare hands. How strong do you think Naruto is from then to shippudan?
And for that batter, the barrier is so hot that anything that touches it burns up instantly. Naruto's entire skin was gone, nothing remained except for the barrier. N
"King Saturn said:1. Naruto would never make it 4 tales."Resonate said:his skin is boiling, so Kens fist would be sorta ffed up if he touched him at all""King Saturn said:I guess so... but Naruto better not let Kenshiro touch him or the fight is over""Hedatary said:Narutos 4 tailed form destroyed an enormous forest with him just standing in it, and he was basically untouchable...does that count? xD"King Saturn said:Kenshiro has insane durability... well some what I mean the dude has survived explosions and buildings falling on him""Warsman said:Fine, Naruto goes demon and does that kamahamaha shit on him. He's dead from that. No way he could survive something that could level an entire forest."Kenshiro. Badly."Indeed"
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We havent even seen it actually fight yet"
2. Kenshiro has the Gento Koken. A move that literally atomizes the opponent via rays of light from his fingertips.
3. Kenshiro, who's fist have broken entire skyscrapers, hand would be f'd up because Narutos boiling? No.
Kenshiro touches Naruto before Resengan and Demon Fox because both are not as easy to pull out of Naruto's arsenal as a head-popping punch from Kenshiro's.
Naruto first needs to be under emotional or physical stress to even harness Demon Fox in the first place. The first few seconds would be spent by Kenshiro beating him to a bloody pulp. Naruto needs time to execute Resengan - time he does not have against a speedster like Kenshiro. You blink and he's right in front of you, fresh from throwing a thousand punches into your gut. That's how fast Kenshiro is. Watch (or read) FOTNS and stop being biased because Naruto features characters that SEEM more powerful than they actually are.
Naruto = human
Kenshiro = superhuman
Get over it.
"Kenshiro uses pressure point techniques... it may not really matter how dense or durable Naruto is cause if his pressure points are not conditioned to the technique of Hoto Shienken that could be his death... people with insane durability have been hurt by Kenshiro just because he could touch their pressure points"Indeed ^^
"King Saturn said:This isn't how durable naruto is, this is about how a supernatural barrier is protecting him from any damage at all. And when his barrier is upon him, it harms his body and his regeneration ability is constantly healing him at a level of Wolverine. That is very impressive."Kenshiro uses pressure point techniques... it may not really matter how dense or durable Naruto is cause if his pressure points are not conditioned to the technique of Hoto Shienken that could be his death... people with insane durability have been hurt by Kenshiro just because he could touch their pressure points"Indeed ^^"
Warsman said:
"Kenshiro touches Naruto before Resengan and Demon Fox because both are not as easy to pull out of Naruto's arsenal as a head-popping punch from Kenshiro's.Naruto is also a superhuman. At the age of 12 he basically stopped a giant snake when he used a very small amount of the foxes power. And this is a thousand to one here. Naruto could always distract him using his shadow clones who can also use techniques. So then lets make it a foxes with level 4 naruto vs this guy. And also, remember this, the barrier naruto had is supernatural. Nothing can hurt him physically.
Naruto first needs to be under emotional or physical stress to even harness Demon Fox in the first place. The first few seconds would be spent by Kenshiro beating him to a bloody pulp. Naruto needs time to execute Resengan - time he does not have against a speedster like Kenshiro. You blink and he's right in front of you, fresh from throwing a thousand punches into your gut. That's how fast Kenshiro is. Watch (or read) FOTNS and stop being biased because Naruto features characters that SEEM more powerful than they actually are.
Naruto = human
Kenshiro = superhuman
Get over it."
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Warsman said:"Kenshiro touches Naruto before Resengan and Demon Fox because both are not as easy to pull out of Naruto's arsenal as a head-popping punch from Kenshiro's.Naruto is also a superhuman. At the age of 12 he basically stopped a giant snake when he used a very small amount of the foxes power. And this is a thousand to one here. Naruto could always distract him using his shadow clones who can also use techniques. So then lets make it a foxes with level 4 naruto vs this guy. And also, remember this, the barrier naruto had is supernatural. Nothing can hurt him physically.
Naruto first needs to be under emotional or physical stress to even harness Demon Fox in the first place. The first few seconds would be spent by Kenshiro beating him to a bloody pulp. Naruto needs time to execute Resengan - time he does not have against a speedster like Kenshiro. You blink and he's right in front of you, fresh from throwing a thousand punches into your gut. That's how fast Kenshiro is. Watch (or read) FOTNS and stop being biased because Naruto features characters that SEEM more powerful than they actually are.
Naruto = human
Kenshiro = superhuman
Get over it."
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What about the Chidori Sasuke plowed into his chest?
"Resonate said:how do you know he wouldnt make it to 4 tails? It took him about 3 seconds in the manga, and Ive told you before that I know nothing about Kenshiro, Im just throwing out facts"King Saturn said:1. Naruto would never make it 4 tales."Resonate said:his skin is boiling, so Kens fist would be sorta ffed up if he touched him at all""King Saturn said:I guess so... but Naruto better not let Kenshiro touch him or the fight is over""Hedatary said:Narutos 4 tailed form destroyed an enormous forest with him just standing in it, and he was basically untouchable...does that count? xD"King Saturn said:Kenshiro has insane durability... well some what I mean the dude has survived explosions and buildings falling on him""Warsman said:Fine, Naruto goes demon and does that kamahamaha shit on him. He's dead from that. No way he could survive something that could level an entire forest."Kenshiro. Badly."Indeed"
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We havent even seen it actually fight yet"
2. Kenshiro has the Gento Koken. A move that literally atomizes the opponent via rays of light from his fingertips.
3. Kenshiro, who's fist have broken entire skyscrapers, hand would be f'd up because Narutos boiling? No."
Perhaps you forget, but that "barrier" (not really a barrier) is killing him. You have no proof that there is any barrier. Orochimaru didn't even throw any real attacks while Naruto was 4 tales. I have no idea where you got that idea. Back to the "killing" him part, it was stated that KN4 is killing Naruto. Thats why Sakura had to heal him after he was KN4. Naruto would have died without Sakura's help.
And Naruto hasn't showed any mobility. It stayed still and shot a fireball. Ken, who moves faster than the eye, would easily kill Naruto during that time.
"Naruto is also a superhuman. At the age of 12 he basically stopped a giant snake when he used a very small amount of the foxes power. And this is a thousand to one here. Naruto could always distract him using his shadow clones who can also use techniques. So then lets make it a foxes with level 4 naruto vs this guy. And also, remember this, the barrier naruto had is supernatural. Nothing can hurt him physically."
Naruto wouldn't be able to use Rassengan if he had 1000 clones out. That would drain too much of his chakra. Even assuming he could, Kenshiro can wipe them all out easily with his speed and wide AOE attacks.
"Perhaps you forget, but that "barrier" (not really a barrier) is killing him. You have no proof that there is any barrier. Orochimaru didn't even throw any real attacks while Naruto was 4 tales. I have no idea where you got that idea. Back to the "killing" him part, it was stated that KN4 is killing Naruto. Thats why Sakura had to heal him after he was KN4. Naruto would have died without Sakura's help.First of all, its not killing him at all. with the constant damage and regeneration, it is effecting his body yes, but that merely means that he would die younger than he should. He probebly won't even make it to old age if he does this all the time. And the barrier is a double edge sword, it protects him from almost anything. Like the sword oro used on him. Did you see that part? Did you see the massive damage oro did when he stabbed at naruto? it didn't do anything. Also, sakura healed him because he would then have a better chance to get back on his feat because oro was right there. The regeneration was doing the rest of the work because his skin came back instantly once he released his transformed state and came back normal. And what do you call the fox anyway? it is a super natural creature that not even the death god could kill.
And Naruto hasn't showed any mobility. It stayed still and shot a fireball. Ken, who moves faster than the eye, would easily kill Naruto during that time.
"Naruto is also a superhuman. At the age of 12 he basically stopped a giant snake when he used a very small amount of the foxes power. And this is a thousand to one here. Naruto could always distract him using his shadow clones who can also use techniques. So then lets make it a foxes with level 4 naruto vs this guy. And also, remember this, the barrier naruto had is supernatural. Nothing can hurt him physically."
Naruto wouldn't be able to use Rassengan if he had 1000 clones out. That would drain too much of his chakra. Even assuming he could, Kenshiro can wipe them all out easily with his speed and wide AOE attacks."
Also, thats not true at all. Do you realize how much chakra he has? Naruto has so much that his shadow clones could use rasangan. If you want proof then i could show you the scan of it. And naruto really doesn't have to show much mobility at all. Just look at the fight between naruto vs sasuke in the vally. Naruto was incredibly fast and powerful. Naruto survived a powerful fireball face first, only feets away and naruto was still able to talk. Naruto survived when Sasuke threw naruto into the air, grabbed him and tried to kill him with his head first from hundreds of feet up in the air. You want me to provide the video? i will. This is just the 12 year old naruto. How much durablity do you think naruto has in the shippudan version? And not just that much with the barrier protecting him, it is very possible to survive almost any attack.
I remember it was stated that he would die if he continued to use KN4. It did not say "he will die later on in life."
A sword? I don't remember him shooting a "massive attack". Furthermore, Orochimaru doesn't have even HALF the power output Kenshiro has, who's battle aura can create thunderstorms and tornadoes.
ALSO~
Tell me what regeneration would do if you are atomized? Naruto would have nothing to regen from.
"Also, thats not true at all. Do you realize how much chakra he has? Naruto has so much that his shadow clones could use rasangan. If you want proof then i could show you the scan of it. And naruto really doesn't have to show much mobility at all. Just look at the fight between naruto vs sasuke in the vally. Naruto was incredibly fast and powerful. Naruto survived a powerful fireball face first, only feets away and naruto was still able to talk. Naruto survived when Sasuke threw naruto into the air, grabbed him and tried to kill him with his head first from hundreds of feet up in the air. You want me to provide the video? i will. This is just the 12 year old naruto. How much durablity do you think naruto has in the shippudan version? And not just that much with the barrier protecting him, it is very possible to survive almost any attack."
His shadow clones can make dummy Rasengans. And "Naruto" was not fast in the valley. That was KN2 Naruto. Different creatures. Even assuming Naruto starts at KN2 (which he'd never reach normally since Kenshiro would speed blitz normal Naruto and kill him before he can raise an eyebrow).. KN2 Naruto is not even close to the speed of Kenshiro... who would seriously kill Naruto with one attack.
"How much durablity do you think naruto has in the shippudan version?"
Not more durability than a skyscraper, thats for sure. And it doesn't matter how durable you are when you're hit with an attack that atomizes you.
If you want to post a scan, post the "barrier". I do not EVER recall Naruto having an indestructible barrier nor any character talking about Naruto having a barrier.
"Perhaps you forget, but that "barrier" (not really a barrier) is killing him. You have no proof that there is any barrier. Orochimaru didn't even throw any real attacks while Naruto was 4 tales. I have no idea where you got that idea.The entire point was that he didnt attack dumbass, he ran away, and yes, it is killing him, (in actuality?they said he would have to use it many times and then it would shorten his life span-not kill him-) but its because its boiling, thus making it a barrier for his skin, and his chakra forms around his body as a shield, proven by the destructive force it makes, like when Kabuto charged up, he screamed, and he was beaten back 200 or so feet with the resulting shockwave. Trying to look cool isnt gonna get you any rep here son, just know what you;re talking about
"Kimikirai said:Yes, he didn't attack so there is NO proof he has a barrier or what kind of attacks it can tank."Perhaps you forget, but that "barrier" (not really a barrier) is killing him. You have no proof that there is any barrier. Orochimaru didn't even throw any real attacks while Naruto was 4 tales. I have no idea where you got that idea.The entire point was that he didnt attack dumbass, he ran away, and yes, it is killing him, (in actuality?they said he would have to use it many times and then it would shorten his life span-not kill him-) but its because its boiling, thus making it a barrier for his skin, and his chakra forms around his body as a shield, proven by the destructive force it makes, like when Kabuto charged up, he screamed, and he was beaten back 200 or so feet with the resulting shockwave. Trying to look cool isnt gonna get you any rep here son, just know what you;re talking about"
And a barrier isn't proven by the destructive force it made when people power up. When Kenshiro powered up, it destroyed an entire city. Does that mean he has a super barrier? Goku powers up and makes craters, does that mean he has a super barrier?
It isn't a matter of "trying to look cool", its a matter of NOT making up abilities that are not stated. So instead of throwing childish insults, post a scan or video stating that Naruto has a barrier and that it can tank powerful attacks.
think about this guys. naruto no matter how superhuman he is has pressure points ken SMASHED a guys face in with a Karate chop. his speed is also quick he was able to dodge raoh's fist. which was to have mastered ALL Martial arts not just hokoto shinken i don't see naruto coming out alive.
@gokishiro: current naruto can wipe kenshiro off the face of the earth because its kyuubi mode naruto, not ninja naruto.
Naruto stomps now, massive power up since 5 years ago.
There's no chance for Naruto. Ken has an aura that rips people to shreds. Then there's his muso tensai, which lets him go intangible and kersplode your atoms.
I think there was a chapter about this:
Naruto 522 : I'm Already Dead
Even though Naruto got a power boost, he's still weak compared to Kenshiro.
You guys forget about Ten-ha Kassatsu, the technique Kenshiro used on Souther, and stroke his pressure points without even touching him.
And since that, Kenshiro got even more broken, he can shoot his hair to touch pressure points. He's universally effective. No matter how much beams Naruto will try shooting at Kenshiro, he gets untouchable with Musou Tensei. He can break through any barrier.
Ken slaughters naruto if he gets his hand on him. Now, the question os whether or not Ken can get his hands on Naruto. Once naruto is in range, Ken slaughterfest as well.
Omae wa shindeiru..
Naruto is already dead.
current naruto (fall 2013) wouldn't be able to defeat ken. even if you disregard ken's ability to go intangible, he's plenty strong enough to defeat naruto. naruto has no real way of dealing with ken's pressure point manipulations, especially since they aren't just manipulation of biology. kyuubi, given time, might be able to heal naruto but certainly not against fast acting hits that damage more than just the physical.
raw physical power, i'd say ken, since i think most of naruto's power there only occurs if he uses chakra. ken without actively reinforcing himself seems much stronger.
metaphysical power wise: naruto certainly seems to have more versatility, but ken's abilities allow him to swat naruto easily, he pretty much bypasses any defense and takes pretty much no damage in return.
raw metaphysical power: naruto in his most powerful mode vs ken, i'd say ken might be a more powerful but not by all that much. (though against naruto on his own, purely based on the energy he himself can generate, ken totally stomps naruto). ken is also by far naruto's superior at energy manipulation.
Still on ken, nardo dies before he can evolve
Naruto can just jump into his transformation
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