Kato VS Ozymandias

Kato.

I wouldn't say it's a stomp, but Veidt in a definitive win.

@Nefarious said:

Kato.

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

I wouldn't say it's a stomp, but Veidt in a definitive win.

Anyone care to talk about the reasoning behind there choice?

Ozymandias got owned by the Comedian. Kato would own the Comedian. 

@Nefarious said:

Ozymandias got owned by the Comedian. Kato would own the Comedian.

I think your getting the characters confused. Ozymandias killed the Comedian with his bare hands in the very beginning of Watchmen.

@Nefarious said:

Ozymandias got owned by the Comedian. Kato would own the Comedian.

Yes, the Comedian "owned" Ozy all the way to the pavement.

@WillPayton said:

@Nefarious said:

Ozymandias got owned by the Comedian. Kato would own the Comedian.

Yes, the Comedian "owned" Ozy all the way to the pavement.

I think Charlie Sheen would say that The Comedian was "winning" on the pavement. He even had the pools of his own tiger blood around himself to prove it.

Comedian never owned anybody other than a Vietnamese woman and some soldiers. I like Kato and Bruce Lee's characters, but Ozymandias should win. Kato is probably even with Ozy in hand to hand combat, but Ozy will get the win eventually with his genius intellect. However, you did say all feats from movies, so does that include persona's from Bruce Lee's other movies? ( Ex. Game of Death ) If so Bruce Lee wins.

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

Comedian never owned anybody other than a Vietnamese woman and some soldiers. I like Kato and Bruce Lee's characters, but Ozymandias should win. Kato is probably even with Ozy in hand to hand combat, but Ozy will get the win eventually with his genius intellect. However, you did say all feats from movies, so does that include persona's from Bruce Lee's other movies? ( Ex. Game of Death ) If so Bruce Lee wins.

Kato in this battle scenario is the embodiment of the Kato/Bruce Lee mythos, so the answer to your question I think would be yes. What does the Game of Death Bruce Lee bring to the table that is the game changer in this battle?

It's a big game changer. Lee in the films had the power of barely getting hit and even when hit, tanking them effortlessly. I call it 80's-Force. Bruce Lee should win this.

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

It's a big game changer. Lee in the films had the power of barely getting hit and even when hit, tanking them effortlessly. I call it 80's-Force. Bruce Lee should win this.

These movies movies are actually from the 70's but props to you for seeing them bro. I know what you mean about him not taking hits even when he is hit, but that's not really a super power. When a fighter trains and has enough experience, he develops and ability to come back from blows that an average fighter couldn't pull off. It's a really impressive feat, but it's not beyond what a real human could do with the right conditioning. I do have to say though I think that Ozymandias has a speed advantage over Kato, although its not such an extreme speed difference that it will guarantee Ozy the victory. As fast as Kato is I have never seen him catch bullets.

@forendization: When did Kato have trouble fighting Reed?

@forendization said:

@kadeem said:

@forendization: When did Kato have trouble fighting Reed?

When they were fighting in his mansion, Reid ended up kicking Kato in the nuts and they fought all over the house.

If your referring to the Seth Rogan flick, that movie doesn't apply to this scenario.

Bruce Lee wins.

@JediXMan said:

Bruce Lee wins.

Why Kato?

@kadeem said:

@JediXMan said:

Bruce Lee wins.

Why Kato?

Because he's Bruce Lee.

@JediXMan said:

@kadeem said:

@JediXMan said:

Bruce Lee wins.

Why Kato?

Because he's Bruce Lee.

Well thanks for that circular argument.

@kadeem:

Laughing at your own remark? Sad, man. Very sad.

@kadeem:

You realize that the post you just deleted still exists, right? I get notifications, you see.

@kadeem said:

@JediXMan: All I know is that you posted some nonsense about me laughing. If you don't have anything of substance to bring to this conversation I suggest you go to another post.

lol he caught you loling at your own remark

what you did there, i seen it

@kadeem said:

@JediXMan said:

@kadeem said:

@JediXMan said:

Bruce Lee wins.

Why Kato?

Because he's Bruce Lee.

Well thanks for that circular argument.

lol

here it is .....

@kadeem said:

@JediXMan: All I know is that you posted some nonsense about me laughing. If you don't have anything of substance to bring to this conversation I suggest you go to another post.

lol he caught you loling at your own remark

what you did there, i seen it

@kadeem said:

@JediXMan: All I know is that you posted some nonsense about me laughing. If you don't have anything of substance to bring to this conversation I suggest you go to another post.

Heh. If you say so. Funny that you felt the need to hide it, but oh well.

Just going to leave this here notification message and be on my way:

JXM, forger extraordinaire.

@kadeem: beans = spilled

@kadeem:

It's a notification message in my inbox which I can forward to any mod or user should I feel the need to do so.

I do suggest stopping now. This is becoming quite sad.

@kadeem said:

@JediXMan: It's kind of pathetic that you would take the time to forge a notification like this, but I think what you did speaks for itself.

Maybe before calling others pathetic check your own activity feed?

It clearly shows that 23 minutes ago you made that exact comment.

@kadeem said:

@JediXMan: I agree your making a fool of yourself.

Reverse psychology FTW

That being said, let's actually get the thread back on topic?

Kato - faster reaction time, better skills, higher voice, full of win.

/thread

Kato has my vote.

I still stand by my original comment.

@kadeem said:

@JediXMan: It's kind of pathetic that you would take the time to forge a notification like this, but I think what you did speaks for itself.

Maybe before calling others pathetic check your own activity feed?

It clearly shows that 23 minutes ago you made that exact comment.
@Mercy_ said:

That being said, let's actually get the thread back on topic?

My only exposure to Kato was the recent Green Hornet movie. That guy would wreck Ozy. Not sure about Bruce Lee's Kato.

Kato has my vote.

Kato - faster reaction time, better skills, higher voice, full of win.

/thread

@CitizenBane said:

My only exposure to Kato was the recent Green Hornet movie. That guy would wreck Ozy. Not sure about Bruce Lee's Kato.

Bruce Lee's Kato had more screen time and better speed and skill feats. Plus, he's Bruce Lee. So you wouldn't be wrong no matter which Kato you chose.

@kadeem said:

Apparently it went over your head why I made the comment about his action being pathetic. My point was that he went out of his way making multiple comments that evaded the topic in the forum.

How was that your point at all? You sat here and called him pathetic and said that he was making a fool of himself for allegedly forging a PM notification. Don't try and turn this around on me or him. Was his original comment somewhat off-topic? Yup. But so was your lol bump so you don't really have that much ground to stand on.

If you want to take sides with him because he's your friend that's fine I don't really care.

I'm not taking sides with him because he's a friend. That's never effected how I've performed my duties as a moderator and I'd appreciate it if you didn't make unfounded claims. I'm taking his side because I think it's out of line that you'd sit here and call him pathetic and told him he was making a fool of himself when he was doing no such thing. If you accidentally replied to yourself ir simply wanted to bump the thread, then just say so. It's childish and immature to try and turn it back on somebody else when there's blatant proof of just the opposite.

The issue is even if it is the case that his accusation was true his posts were still off topic and disruptive.

And the post of you loling and bumping the thread wasn't off topic?

I don't care to say anything else on the matter.

Absolutely fine by me. If you change your mind, feel free to reply via PM.

@Ancient_0f_Days said:

@CitizenBane said:

My only exposure to Kato was the recent Green Hornet movie. That guy would wreck Ozy. Not sure about Bruce Lee's Kato.

Bruce Lee's Kato had more screen time and better speed and skill feats. Plus, he's Bruce Lee. So you wouldn't be wrong no matter which Kato you chose.

Skill feats, perhaps. Speed feats... eh.... movie Kato was almost like Daredevil.

@kadeem said:

I agree that Kato will win,

It's in poor taste for the TC to pick a side.

@kadeem: What does Bruce Lee have to do with this topic? I dont recall the op saying this debates about Bruce Lee so why bring him up?

@TERMINATORXX said:

@kadeem: What does Bruce Lee have to do with this topic? I dont recall the op saying this debates about Bruce Lee so why bring him up?

... Bruce Lee played Kato.

@JediXMan: That might be so, but based on the op, we're using comic versions, plus Bruce Lee played the character... this is not really based on Bruce Lee himself...

@TERMINATORXX said:

@JediXMan: That might be so, but based on the op, we're using comic versions, plus Bruce Lee played the character... this is not really based on Bruce Lee himself...

It is, partially. The actor added certain things to the character behind the scenes. For example, in the Batman / Green Hornet crossover, the script said that Robin would beat Kato. Bruce Lee said no, and they changed it to a stalemate. So yes, it matters a bit.

Ozzy wins hands down. And whoever said comedian stomped Veidt never read watchmen, Katowice is no match for ozzys strength and skill

@Bane_of_sith:

Comedian did beat Ozy in their youth, if memory serves. It was Comedian's peak, not Ozy's.

@TERMINATORXX said:

@JediXMan: That might be so, but based on the op, we're using comic versions, plus Bruce Lee played the character... this is not really based on Bruce Lee himself...

It is, partially. The actor added certain things to the character behind the scenes. For example, in the Batman / Green Hornet crossover, the script said that Robin would beat Kato. Bruce Lee said no, and they changed it to a stalemate. So yes, it matters a bit.