Combatants:
-Karate Kid
-Spider-Man, Agent Venom, Black Panther, Iron Fist, & Cyclops
Rules:
- Random encounter
- Morals are standard
- Standard equipment
- Karate Kid is Pre52
- Win by death, knockout, or incapacitation
-Karate Kid
-Spider-Man, Agent Venom, Black Panther, Iron Fist, & Cyclops
how does karate kid stand against Cyclops eye rays ?
@bat_girl_cc: None of that makes this a mismatch but okay.
@bat_girl_cc: None of that makes this a mismatch but okay.
In the first scan that i posted K.K destroys a meteor with one kick...in the second scan, he made an avalanche with one punch...in the third scan, he stopped an earth-quake and toke down the villain, all by just stomping the ground...and in the last scan, he oneshot-killed an alien with super-durabillity, by punching through his body.
Superman vs Karate Kid is a good fight, this isn't.
Does KK have any feats of fighting multiple adversaries of this level?
No-body here is even close to his level...KK embarasses Kryptonian level characters on a daily basis...every member of the team gets one-shotted.
@bat_girl_cc: Cool! Karate Kid can kick stuff really hard. That still doesn't guarantee him a win. I could post scans of Cyclops slicing through mountains, Spider-Man flipping tanks, & Iron Fist taking out a Hellicarier with a punch. Posting a bunch of random feats doesn't support your argument unless you can some how apply them. Can Val tag the team? Will Val kick with this type of force while his morals are still on? With Val be able to survive this? And so on.
@bat_girl_cc: Cool! Karate Kid can kick stuff really hard. That still doesn't guarantee him a win. I could post scans of Cyclops slicing through mountains, Spider-Man flipping tanks, & Iron Fist taking out a Hellicarier with a punch. Posting a bunch of random feats doesn't support your argument unless you can some how apply them. Can Val tag the team? Will Val kick with this type of force while his morals are still on? With Val be able to survive this? And so on.
"Morals on" Val humilliated Mon-El in combat, a Daximate with similar stats to the ones of Superman...how is this even a fight?
@bat_girl_cc: Scans? Did he take any physical blows and how skilled is Mon-El? And can you provide more context?
It only depends on one thing. The version of Val being used.
Some of the ones like Waids KK need to consciously switch "on" superspeed. That guy gets blitzed by the likes of spidey and Danny
KK at his best though? Ha. The dude dodges Instant death speed force lightning AFTER it strikes him on panel. This guy shitstomps these street levellers
KK in general , if he actually activates his superspeed kills everyone with one hit
@bat_girl_cc: he didn't humiliate mon el in combat and as far as i know he hasn't beaten any kryptonians or daxamaites ever
@alakemega123: He doesn't need to beat a Kryptonian anything. The fact that he cam match them even slightly, to the point of putting PC Superboy in a lock/ judo tossing Mon el out of the Solar System means provided this is a semi decent version being used, KK curbstomps everyone
@thegrayghost: but he isn't doing any of these things by his own power, he is just using martial arts to turn their power against them and he can barely do that without dying.
@bat_girl_cc: Scans? Did he take any physical blows and how skilled is Mon-El? And can you provide more context?
They had a couple of fights, and i don't have all scans from all of their fights, but as fasr as i know, Mon-el never looked superior, even despite having stats comparable to Superman.
The thing is, Karate Kid doesn't have to be super-durable, because 1) he would probably speed-Blitz the team...and 2) they wouldn't be able to land any hits on him, even if he was holding back.
In the scans above, as usual, KK makes easy work out of Mon-El, someone with kryptonian level stats.
Mon-El doesn't land one hit on KK unless KK lets him.
@bat_girl_cc: he didn't humiliate mon el in combat and as far as i know he hasn't beaten any kryptonians or daxamaites ever
?...Mon-El is a Daximate, and Daximates are a different "species" of Kryptonians...with similar stats.
Also:
This is such a huge stomp, that it hurts.
Another exemple:
What can the team do, against someone with KK's level of skill?
@bat_girl_cc: those scans prove nothing considering that karate kid didnt hurt them even a little bit.
@alakemega123: Let me ask you. The " martial art that allows you to move a PC Kryptonians hand against his will....just that one move. Will it or will it not rip off Spideys arm from its socket?
And ignoring all that. KKs post crisis dying (as usual) weaker versions slices through solid blocks of ice with Karate chops
One of these chops does what to spiderman, do you think?
@bat_girl_cc: those scans prove nothing considering that karate kid didnt hurt them even a little bit.
He could, if he wantted to, tho...they don't prove nothing?...how about showing that KK is WAY above each and every member from the team?...what can they do to him?...how are they even going to touch him?...can't you see the gap difference here?...this isn't even close!...its a Stomp with a big "S".
Some of this guys supporting the team, must be Bias towards some characters from the team...i don't belive they think this is even a close fight.
No karate kid couldnt have hurt them if he wanted to or he would have and he himself states that nothing he could do could hurt them. And the biggest threat to karate kid is probably cyclops with his heat vision
And
@thegrayghost:
1 he wasn't moving his hand against his will he was using the force of the other guys blow to do it
2 i doubt karate kid could even hit spiderman
Val stomps.
Val stomps.
No karate kid couldnt have hurt them if he wanted to or he would have and he himself states that nothing he could do could hurt them. And the biggest threat to karate kid is probably cyclops with his heat vision
And
1 he wasn't moving his hand against his will he was using the force of the other guys blow to do it
2 i doubt karate kid could even hit spiderman
" No karate kid couldnt have hurt them if he wanted to or he would have and he himself states that nothing he could do could hurt them. "
Yeah, he could...
" And the biggest threat to karate kid is probably cyclops with his heat vision. "
That's Karate Kid and Mon-El in the scan above, Mon-El is a Daxamite with Kryptonian level stats...Ciclops, gets speed-blitzed and one-shotted.
@bat_girl_cc: shattering a meteorite doesn't prove he could hurt a kryptonian
And him dodging the laser beans proves that they would have hurt him if they had hit him so if spiderman, venom or iron fist where to hold him down and cyclops hit karate kid it would be over
Val takes it in the end. If scott manages to tag him though..........val will go down. Danny would lay him out with the IF as,well. However, they would be hard pressed to land them.
If Val knows who to take out first (which is obviously Cyclops), he's going to win this easily.
Otherwise, I'm not sure.
@alakemega123: He doesn't need to beat a Kryptonian anything. The fact that he cam match them even slightly, to the point of putting PC Superboy in a lock/ judo tossing Mon el out of the Solar System means provided this is a semi decent version being used, KK curbstomps everyone
I agree this fights unfair, Batman VS Karate Kid is a much fairer match up
@gustofwind: batman gets slaughtered by spiderman much less karate kid
I generally do not post in KK threads, but I will say one thing...from what I understand, Cyclops can't currently control the power of his blasts, and from what I have seen, tends to AoE at full power. So dodging his blasts won't be like dodging the optic beams previously shown, that is unless Cyclops has undergone some more changes recently.
From what was shown to me, it is less like dodging a beam, and more like dodging a bomb at ground zero.
@gustofwind: batman gets slaughtered by spiderman much less karate kid
Don't be so naive, Batman beat up Superman in that video with no prep, the only reason Superman hurt Batman is because he sucker punched him.
@gustofwind: batman has no chance of beating up superman unless he's holding back, even then batman would probably break his every bone in his arm trying to punch superman
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