Strongest version of both. Bloodlusted: On - Morals: Off - Fight to Death
Karate Kid vs Black Adam
Karate Kid > Superman = Shazam > Black Adam
Karate Kid wins!
Karate Kid has stomped Daxamites (a lower species of Kryptonians) in combat, he was even shown to be to fast for them, and even for thei're eye beams...he has kicked away meteors, he made an avalanche with one punch, he destroyed montains, he killed giant alliens with super-durabillty with one hit...so, yeah, he defenently has a chance here.
@bat_girl_cc: No. Shazam isn't > Black Adam. Black Adam has fought Superman and Superman remarked his punches felt like bombs, if we take Pre-Crisis Karate Kid (who fought Superman), then you should acknowledge Pre-Crisis Black Adam fought Pre-Crisis Superman and Pre-Crisis Captain Marvel at the same time. Black Adam himself, has fought Power Girl (Earth 2 Kryptonian).
@bat_girl_cc: No. Shazam isn't > Black Adam. Black Adam has fought Superman and Superman remarked his punches felt like bombs, if we take Pre-Crisis Karate Kid (who fought Superman), then you should acknowledge Pre-Crisis Black Adam fought Pre-Crisis Superman and Pre-Crisis Captain Marvel at the same time. Black Adam himself, has fought Power Girl (Earth 2 Kryptonian).
To me if Shazam he is serious, and if he goes all out, he is > Black Adam...and Pre-Crisis Karate Kid proved to be vastly superior to Superman in combat.
@bat_girl_cc: He's not. Superman himself stated Adam hits harder. Adam fought PC Superman and PC Captain Marvel at the same time, PC Captain Marvel himself has moved stars.
@bat_girl_cc: He's not. Superman himself stated Adam hits harder. Adam fought PC Superman and PC Captain Marvel at the same time, PC Captain Marvel himself has moved stars.
I think they are close in strengh, speed and in durabillity, Black Adam may be a bit stronger, but i'm confident Shazam can take him...Meanwhile, Superman > Black Adam...and Karate Kid > Superman:
@bat_girl_cc: It looks like he's got superhuman powers instead of Judo, but maybe that's just me lol
Here is Karate Kid "schooling" Superman:
Adam goes toe to toe with SA Superman and SA Shazam at the same time
Here is Karate Kid "schooling" Superman:
Adam goes toe to toe with SA Superman and SA Shazam at the same time
But the thing is, Karate Kid didn't go toe to toe with Superman...he just trashed him...lol, and that, wasn't the only time.
@bat_girl_cc: Black Adam is stronger and more durable. Whereas Captain Marvel is faster and has more endurance. I wouldn't say Superman > Black Adam either; Superman was certainly struggling with Adam in Action Comics #831 and Superman was the aggressor in that fight.
Black Adam's capable of:
Karate Kid may be able to take Superman, however I doubt he can combat both PC characters at the same time, just to let you know how powerful PC Captain Marvel was:
Fighting them both at the same time is more impressive.
@bat_girl_cc: It looks like he's got superhuman powers instead of Judo, but maybe that's just me lol
Yeah, but he doesn't! it's just skill, personally i think is whole existence is crap, and the reasons why he can do what he does, are even crapier...lol
But it is, that way it is...and i'm just saying he has a chance here, just because i know he does, not that i like him, tho.
@bat_girl_cc: Another feat of his strength (Pre-Crisis).
@bat_girl_cc: nvm, I was just surprised how he casually tossed a flying superman away. Awesome stuff posted, the skill displayed is over 9000... He's probably even better than Batman ahaha (skill wise)
Here is Karate Kid "schooling" Superman:
Adam goes toe to toe with SA Superman and SA Shazam at the same time
But the thing is, Karate Kid didn't go toe to toe with Superman...he just trashed him...lol, and that, wasn't the only time.
its Superboy not Superman
It depends...All 3 of them were serious there, and going all out...as for KK, he was just trashing Supes, while holding back...and that wasn't the only time.
Karate Kid vs characters with stats similar to Black Adam's:
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Karate Kid's feats:
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Black Adam's feats maybe more impressive, but KK has the stricking power to hurt him, and the skill vs speed to outmaneuver him.
Here is Karate Kid "schooling" Superman:
Adam goes toe to toe with SA Superman and SA Shazam at the same time
But the thing is, Karate Kid didn't go toe to toe with Superman...he just trashed him...lol, and that, wasn't the only time.
its Superboy not Superman
This was Peak PC Superboy, they have the same stats
@bat_girl_cc: Mon-El is not similar to Black Adam or as powerful, the only kryptonian that is would be Superman perhaps. Likewise, Adam is able to take on two powerhouses at the same time, they didn't hold back against Adam. Or when he gets dogpiled on by the JSA yet still fights them, Val's showings against Superman are actually very limited. Adam can perceive at super-speeds, moreso than Val can.
@bat_girl_cc: Mon-El is not similar to Black Adam or as powerful. Likewise, Adam is able to take on two powerhouses at the same time, they didn't hold back against Adam. Or when he gets dogpiled on by the JSA yet still fights them, Val's showings against Superman are actually very limited.
I know Black Adam is stronger than him, but they are in the same class of super-strengh, i meant similar, as in, both have super-human stats, like Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Man Hunter, Shazam, etc they all have super-strengh, super-speed, super-durabillity, etc and KK has proved, that he can take on powerhouses like them, and sometimes he does it easly.
Yeah, by feats, Black Adam takes this, but i can see KK beating Black Adam in a fight.
@bat_girl_cc: The only way in which Karate Kid beats Adam is if Adam is passive (which he has been), with bloodlust (which he has entered many times) he is much more impressive. Adam himself, has proved he can fight a multitude of heroes at once.
@bat_girl_cc: The only way in which Karate Kid beats Adam is if Adam is passive (which he has been), with bloodlust (which he has entered many times) he is much more impressive. Adam himself, has proved he can fight a multitude of heroes at once.
Karate Kid can do that to, but yeah, fighting Superman and Cap together at the same time, is very impressive.
Mon-El, and Super-boy weren't being "passive"...when they fought KK...KK was the one, who was holding back...and he still trashed them.
@bat_girl_cc: WW3 is a bloodlusted Black Adam and I doubt Val could handle that version.
@bat_girl_cc: WW3 is a bloodlusted Black Adam and I doubt Val could handle that version.
I was never a big fan of Black Adam...but i belive, i recall seeing WW3 Black Adam one-shot killing Terra from the Teen Titans...yeah he is bloodlusted alright...but i need to see more feats from him, before i gave him the win :P
@bat_girl_cc: The heroes Adam fought in WW3 while bloodlusted.
Vs the JSA.
KK takes this fairly convincingly. POST COIE he has taken on two Kryptonians/Daxamites at the same time and won (which BTW is a feat he did pre COIE as well) he has taken down a blood lusted Mon-el, as well as a character who soloed Supermboy, mon-el and Ultra boy. Not to mention takin down two members of the Flash family.
@beatboks1: Val did not take down Mon-El. He dodged his heat-vision. A passive Black Adam fought a Superman that didn't hold back in Action Comics #831 and fought him toe-to-toe. Superman admitted on-panel that he hit harder than Captain Marvel and that his punches felt like bombs. Superman himself has speed-blitzed an entire Kryptonian squadron. Karate Kid also failed to hurt Supergirl, though I class that as PIS because I think he would stomp Supergirl. And if you're referencing Pre-COIE, Pre-COIE Adam fought Superman and Captain Marvel at the same time in DC Comics Presents #49.
@jonez120: Nope! Karate Kid beats him bad
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