#1 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio

Who would win between these two DC heavyweights?

Kalibak:

Superhuman strength, durability, and endurance.

Solomon Grundy:

Superhuman strength and endurance.

#2 Posted by brainiac 1.0 (4150 posts) - - Show Bio

Solomon Grundy some incarnations were stronger than superman.

#3 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

It really does depend upon which incarnation of Grundy is used.

In his most powerful incarnation his strength was around the level of Superman (at that time) and his level of endurance and durability was equally high as shown by his huge slugathons with some of DC's top hitters.

He was stupid but single minded and quite often cunning.

He has however had incarnations that although smarter where no where near as strong or as durable.

Kalibak on the other hand is almost physically as strong as Orion or Darkseid. DC at one point rated him around half the strength of Superman. So although not as strong as some of DC's top hitters (like Wonder Woman or Capt Marvel), he made up for this with his unbridled savagery.

In addition, as befits the son of Darseid and a New God, he had massive endurance (able to fight for days and even weeks without rest) and was able to withstand blows from beings like Orion without serious injury.

He used a beta club, which was composed from an almost indestructible Apocalypse alloy, and in addition to be able to hit with like a metal bar, which would amplify the damage he could deliver physically, was capable of firing devastating force bolts and nerve beams that caused living beings intense pain.

I don' think that the last setting (pain delivery) would work on Grundy as he was effectively dead but then again he did feel sensations...

Overall, I would say that unless this was Grundy in his most physically powerful incarnation, Kalibak would win.

#4 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio

The_Creator says:

"It really does depend upon which incarnation of Grundy is used. In his most powerful incarnation his strength was around the level of Superman (at that time) and his level of endurance and durability was equally high as shown by his huge slugathons with some of DC's top hitters. He was stupid but single minded and quite often cunning. He has however had incarnations that although smarter where no where near as strong or as durable. Kalibak on the other hand is almost physically as strong as Orion or Darkseid. DC at one point rated him around half the strength of Superman. So although not as strong as some of DC's top hitters (like Wonder Woman or Capt Marvel), he made up for this with his unbridled savagery. In addition, as befits the son of Darseid and a New God, he had massive endurance (able to fight for days and even weeks without rest) and was able to withstand blows from beings like Orion without serious injury. He used a beta club, which was composed from an almost indestructible Apocalypse alloy, and in addition to be able to hit with like a metal bar, which would amplify the damage he could deliver physically, was capable of firing devastating force bolts and nerve beams that caused living beings intense pain. I don' think that the last setting (pain delivery) would work on Grundy as he was effectively dead but then again he did feel sensations... Overall, I would say that unless this was Grundy in his most physically powerful incarnation, Kalibak would win. "

Was there a PC Kalibak?

#5 Posted by zee crusher (8997 posts) - - Show Bio

Grundy wins. Kalibak can barely take a hit from donna troy or one hit from superman at times. There is no version of kalibak that can defeat grundy. The only grundy I see losing is the incarnation that use to fight batman and get layed out. Besides him kalibak loses to any other version sadly.

#6 Posted by captain strange (73 posts) - - Show Bio

zee crusher says:

"Grundy wins. Kalibak can barely take a hit from donna troy or one hit from superman at times. There is no version of kalibak that can defeat grundy. The only grundy I see losing is the incarnation that use to fight batman and get layed out. Besides him kalibak loses to any other version sadly. "

agreed.

#7 Posted by King Saturn (224187 posts) - - Show Bio

Solomon Grundy would win here against Kalibak.

#8 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

zee crusher says:

"Grundy wins. Kalibak can barely take a hit from donna troy or one hit from superman at times. There is no version of kalibak that can defeat grundy. The only grundy I see losing is the incarnation that use to fight batman and get layed out. Besides him kalibak loses to any other version sadly. "

Considering that Dona Troy's powers have sometimes been shown at levels approaching those of Wonder Woman that does little to imply that Kalibak is weak. Far from it in fact. For instance, the recent highly intelligent version of Grundy that faught the JLA was by the looks of it nowhere near as powerful as older dumber incarnations. This version as well would not be able to stand up to Kalibak.
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#9 Posted by SGrundy (3 posts) - - Show Bio

depends on Grundy........Kalibak could kill him a couple of times.....but Grundy would come back and possibly come back strong enough to take anybody. So Grundy by way of never dying.