@goldking:
Excellent analysis.
Thank you, kind sir. I do aim to please!
I do wonder exactly how fast Magneto could push the shield along. You'd think with how powerful he is, he could easily make it go beyond hypersonic. Perhaps many times faster even. But also, as you've said, Kalibak is damn fast when he needs to be and has durability in the same ballpark as Superman. So..... I'm not so sure even at many many times hypersonic speed could the shield even cut him.
Maybe, maybe not. Either way, he has a potent healing factor to potentially compensate for the damage. If he doesn't swat the shield on its way to his location that is...
Do you think Mags is capable of propelling the shield along near-lightspeed?
I guess anything's possible where comic book physics are concerned (lol)!
@heraldofganthet said:
@goldking:
Kalibak takes a full power baseball bat swing with the Beta Club with everything he's got right into the shield with Cap bracing behind it. How does that play out?
Since this fight is taking place in Tokyo, Cap lands in Hong Kong at several times the speed of sound. DOA.
The Vibranium would certainly provide some padding, wouldn't it? It does every time Thor hits it.
It certainly does. When THOR hits it. Let me explain: Thor (even in a bad mood) has a great deal of both respect and reverence for Steve Rogers as both a long term teammate AND as one of the few beings in creation noble enough to lift Mjolnir. He has never hit Cap's shield in a full on "warrior madness" frame of mind. Kalibak has no such loyalty and thus no reason to temper his blow(s).
Though, I'm sure Kalibak is much stronger than Thor physically. But the Beta Club is supposed to be virtually-indestructible. So seeing the two items collide with each other with Kalibak's massive power (backed by his animalistic rage and ferocity) would be quite the site to behold.
Agreed.
Even if Cap lands 1000 miles away, I think he survives the fall. Two reasons: 1) The shield would protect him from harm when it's hit by Kalibak. 2) mid-flight he could maneuver it so as he crash-landed, the shield would hit first. So he could essentially ride it out like being on a sled. But then if it started to tumble, I'm sure he could roll with it. As for the speed at which he was blown through the air.... not sure if Cap could withstand getting socked away that fast, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt since he's the one and only Super Soldier. :)
Maybe. But he would certainly have multiple fractures (perhaps even compound fractures) all over his body, putting him out of commission for several weeks based on his recuperative powers.
But then again, just as he gets socked away (as long as he holds on) Mags could slow it down and bring it back (with him in tow).
He could, but Kalibak would be all over him like stink on s**t in the meantime, so he'd better do it quickly!!;D
@adamtrmm:
She-Hulk= She most certainly has superhuman durability. But at her core she has an easily (from Magneto's perspective, anyway) exploitable weakness: She (and Ms. Marvel for that matter) are both superhuman mutates. Meaning that while Jennifer is certainly more durable and stronger than she was pre-transfusion, she (and Carol Danvers) still have a largely human metabolism in terms of their internal organs, skeletal structure, and blood composition. This is why she still has (even in her She-Hulk form) hemoglobin in her blood cells. That is what left her vulnerable to that excruciating attack from Magneto that I will never forget. But there is no guarantee that Kalibak's Apokoliptian body tissues/bodily fluids contain any magnetic elements at all. Just saying. And...
Oh I never said it will work on Kalibak, but you brought up Omerta and I felt I needed to provide the full context to it and leave here a "comparison", that maybe you wasn't familiar with.
Also, I think any superhuman physiology should be judged individually since we don't know exactly what said transformation actually does to their bodies, I mean I would totally expect Magneto to mess with She-Hulk's gamma rather than with the iron of her blood. But in this they create a character possessing any Hulk's Kryptonite and I don't think Marvel really wants that, thus, we we'll never see (and if I'm not mistaken have never seen) Magneto play with gamma rays, or battling the Hulk. IMO
Yeah, it was weird for him to go the bloodstream route, but he must've "sensed" he could and perhaps it was the easier of his two options at that moment. Maybe...?
Fabian Cortez= Yeah, that was brutal. Seriously, I said to myself when I saw how he died "Dude, WTF?!? That's some cold-blooded s**t right there!" That said, Cortez was lacking any sizeable superhuman durability. Unlike Kalibak who is at least as durable as the Thing with a healing factor that's on par with the Creeper (or perhaps Sabretooth to use a Marvel example). And since BFR is off the table, Magneto has a lot of work to do to prevent himself from becoming a mid-afternoon snack, IMO...
I just brought him up to show that there was a lot of punishment in the same time, he doesn't have superhuman durability, but the feat against him was in showing that Magnus had surgical and wide ranged control.
Damn right! No argument from me on that one. He is precise to be sure. But his stamina is laughable when compared to Kalibak's so I wonder if he could withstand the next 6 months of Kalibak wailing away at his shields at supersonic speeds with each one of those Hulk-level blows. Perhaps he can, and he would need to since BFR is off the table. Too bad that OP condition wasn't active for Fabian Cortez. Poor bastard...
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