#1 Posted by supertrooper117 (1867 posts) - - Show Bio

this is a battle of the dimesions super man of earth two vs. superman of earth one who is the better superman

#2 Posted by lordraiden (7139 posts) - - Show Bio

As Bucky stated in the Battle's recap thread, DETAILS, which is something your lacking! Which versions? Kal-L from COIE would floor current Superman! IC Kal-L was barely half of what he was in COIE, so what's the details on each characters, which incarnations, what powersets? is the PC or current?

#3 Posted by supertrooper117 (1867 posts) - - Show Bio

golden age Kal-L
silver age Kal-El
Pre crisis
they have super str, super speed, flight, invulnberability etc. but the levels are respective to the timeset they came from i.e. Kal El can survive flying into the core of the sun and Kal-L cant

#4 Posted by lordraiden (7139 posts) - - Show Bio
supertrooper117 said:
"golden age Kal-L
silver age Kal-El
Pre crisis
they have super str, super speed, flight, invulnberability etc. but the levels are respective to the timeset they came from i.e. Kal El can survive flying into the core of the sun and Kal-L cant

"

Where did you get the idea that Kal-L can't fly into the sun??? He still gets powered exactly the same way, ie the sun, so, why can't he fly into the sun for a sundip power up? explanation please?
#5 Posted by King Saturn (224203 posts) - - Show Bio
I think Kal-El wins here. I am still confused over how or what Superman is what after the whole COIE events...
#6 Posted by lordraiden (7139 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"I think Kal-El wins here. I am still confused over how or what Superman is what after the whole COIE events...
"

That's where PC begin, as in pre-crises (as in PC Darkseid, PC Superman, as in before the original Crises (on infinite earths) DC characters like Superman and Darkseid where ridiculously powerfull, and COIE reset the whole DCU and powered down alot of their characters! and you had multiple copies of characters as well, like Kal-el, of earth one, Kal-L of earth 2 (of which was home to the JSA and the original heroes like Jay Garrick Flash and golden age supes).
#7 Posted by supertrooper117 (1867 posts) - - Show Bio
lordraiden said:
"supertrooper117 said:
"golden age Kal-L
silver age Kal-El
Pre crisis
they have super str, super speed, flight, invulnberability etc. but the levels are respective to the timeset they came from i.e. Kal El can survive flying into the core of the sun and Kal-L cant

"

Where did you get the idea that Kal-L can't fly into the sun??? He still gets powered exactly the same way, ie the sun, so, why can't he fly into the sun for a sundip power up? explanation please?"
but he simply flew near the sun for the sun dip he couldnt like go inside the core of the sun or he would be fried
#8 Posted by lordraiden (7139 posts) - - Show Bio
supertrooper117 said:
"lordraiden said:
"supertrooper117 said:
"golden age Kal-L
silver age Kal-El
Pre crisis
they have super str, super speed, flight, invulnberability etc. but the levels are respective to the timeset they came from i.e. Kal El can survive flying into the core of the sun and Kal-L cant

"

Where did you get the idea that Kal-L can't fly into the sun??? He still gets powered exactly the same way, ie the sun, so, why can't he fly into the sun for a sundip power up? explanation please?"
but he simply flew near the sun for the sun dip he couldnt like go inside the core of the sun or he would be fried
"

Again, where did you get that logic from? Superman, any superman gets a huge powerup from a sundip!
#9 Posted by supertrooper117 (1867 posts) - - Show Bio

it really doesnt matter lets just say they dont have the same durability

#10 Posted by lordraiden (7139 posts) - - Show Bio
supertrooper117 said:
"it really doesnt matter lets just say they dont have the same durability
"

O.K. you posted the battle, so you call the shots as far as the rules go! I'll go with Kal-L, more experience and doesn't hold back as much as Kal-El!
#11 Edited by Ego (2324 posts) - - Show Bio
supertrooper117 said:
"lordraiden said:
"supertrooper117 said:
"golden age Kal-L
silver age Kal-El
Pre crisis
they have super str, super speed, flight, invulnberability etc. but the levels are respective to the timeset they came from i.e. Kal El can survive flying into the core of the sun and Kal-L cant

"

Where did you get the idea that Kal-L can't fly into the sun??? He still gets powered exactly the same way, ie the sun, so, why can't he fly into the sun for a sundip power up? explanation please?"
but he simply flew near the sun for the sun dip he couldnt like go inside the core of the sun or he would be fried
"

That's bad science though becuase the outer part of the sun is hotter than the inner core of the sun.
#12 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

Current Supes wins. Why 1. Hes younger. 2. JSA Supes died flying through the red sun Supes just lost his powers so hes obviouly more durable.

#13 Posted by death monger (992 posts) - - Show Bio

all depends i think kal l

#14 Posted by YoungThriller (746 posts) - - Show Bio
@SeSAW said:
Current Supes wins. Why 1. Hes younger. 2. JSA Supes died flying through the red sun Supes just lost his powers so hes obviouly more durable.
Superboy prime killed Kal-L.Kal-L is a demigod.He doesn't get his powers from a sun,but rather from his own bodies resources.Sun light doesn't affect Kal-L at all.And he can't get more powerful for he already is powerful as it is.@lordraiden said:
supertrooper117 said:
"lordraiden said:
"supertrooper117 said:
"golden age Kal-L
silver age Kal-El
Pre crisis
they have super str, super speed, flight, invulnberability etc. but the levels are respective to the timeset they came from i.e. Kal El can survive flying into the core of the sun and Kal-L cant

"

Where did you get the idea that Kal-L can't fly into the sun??? He still gets powered exactly the same way, ie the sun, so, why can't he fly into the sun for a sundip power up? explanation please?"
but he simply flew near the sun for the sun dip he couldnt like go inside the core of the sun or he would be fried
"
Again, where did you get that logic from? Superman, any superman gets a huge powerup from a sundip!
Kal-L doesn't get a power up from the sun,read my post above.
 
@supertrooper117 said:
golden age Kal-Lsilver age Kal-ElPre crisisthey have super str, super speed, flight, invulnberability etc. but the levels are respective to the timeset they came from i.e. Kal El can survive flying into the core of the sun and Kal-L cant

This battle is one sided if it's not Pre-crisis Kal-L,then this battle can only be won by Kal-El.The only way Kal-L can win is if he is in his silver age form,where he did take one silver age Kal-EL and was able to hold him off,implying he was as powerful as silver age Kal-EL.But if it's Kal-L from infinite crisis then he can beat Kal-EL as well.
 
Silver age Kal-L=Silver age Kal-El
Golden age Kal-L<Silver age Kal-EL
Modern age Kal-L>Silver age Kal-El
#15 Posted by kelly101 (9 posts) - - Show Bio

kal-l powers do not come from the yellow sun but rather from his kyrptonian physiology all kryptonaians had these powers

#16 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, if its Silver Age vs. Golden Age, then Silver Age wins. If it's Golden Age vs. New Earth, than New Earth wins. If it's COIE Kal-L vs. New Earth, than COIE Kal-L wins. If it's IC Kal-L vs New Earth, than IC Kal-L wins.

I think I've addressed most all of the points.

#17 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Kal.