Kal Kent and All Star Superman vs Abraxas and Composite Superman

I think team 2 wins this. Composite Superman could probably beat All-Star superman. I don't know much about Abraxas, but from what i've read online he has near-limitless cosmic power so i think he could take Kal Kent.

"I think team 2 wins this. Composite Superman could probably beat All-Star superman. I don't know much about Abraxas, but from what i've read online he has near-limitless cosmic power so i think he could take Kal Kent.
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I thought All-Star Superman was current Superman with his powers tripled when he went in the sun and he was immune to kryptonite. I don't have any comics with Composite Superman but isn't he 3 times as powerful as Silver Age Superman with the powers of the legion?

"I thought All-Star Superman was current Superman with his powers tripled when he went in the sun and he was immune to kryptonite. I don't have any comics with Composite Superman but isn't he 3 times as powerful as Silver Age Superman with the powers of the legion?
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"Strange Doctor said:

"I think team 2 wins this. Composite Superman could probably beat All-Star superman. I don't know much about Abraxas, but from what i've read online he has near-limitless cosmic power so i think he could take Kal Kent.
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As Powerful as Abraxas is... he has never faced anyone quite like Kal Kent.  And since All Star Superman's strength is somewhat superior to what the Superman of the Pre Crisis era has... I can see All Star Superman giving Composite Superman hell in the fight
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"King Saturn said:

"Strange Doctor said:

"I think team 2 wins this. Composite Superman could probably beat All-Star superman. I don't know much about Abraxas, but from what i've read online he has near-limitless cosmic power so i think he could take Kal Kent.
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As Powerful as Abraxas is... he has never faced anyone quite like Kal Kent.  And since All Star Superman's strength is somewhat superior to what the Superman of the Pre Crisis era has... I can see All Star Superman giving Composite Superman hell in the fight
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Doesn't Abraxas go around killing Galactuses?
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If Kal Kent has the power of Mr. Mxyzptlk, then he just kind of wishes away the others, doesn't he?

"If Kal Kent has the power of Mr. Mxyzptlk, then he just kind of wishes away team 2, doesn't he?
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lol.. Well I have no idea who wins then.

I think All-Star Superman might be stronger than Composite Superman. They couldn't find a limit for his upper body strength and he was lifting that dwarf star key that weighs 500000 tons with 2 fingers easily

And since All Star Superman's strength is somewhat superior to what the Superman of the Pre Crisis era has... I can see All Star Superman giving Composite Superman hell in the fight
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No, All Star Superman can only lift 200 quintillion tonnes and this is less than the weight of the planet Earth. Pre-crisis Superman can move the Earth. Therefore Pre-crisis Superman is stronger.

As for winning, I would tend to back team 2 as composite superman can take All star Superman while Abraxas should take Kal Kent.

"King Saturn said:

And since All Star Superman's strength is somewhat superior to what the Superman of the Pre Crisis era has... I can see All Star Superman giving Composite Superman hell in the fight
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No, All Star Superman can only lift 200 quintillion tonnes and this is less than the weight of the planet Earth. Pre-crisis Superman can move the Earth. Therefore Pre-crisis Superman is stronger.

As for winning, I would tend to back team 2 as composite superman can take All star Superman while Abraxas should take Kal Kent.

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"King Saturn said:

And since All Star Superman's strength is somewhat superior to what the Superman of the Pre Crisis era has... I can see All Star Superman giving Composite Superman hell in the fight
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No, All Star Superman can only lift 200 quintillion tonnes and this is less than the weight of the planet Earth. Pre-crisis Superman can move the Earth. Therefore Pre-crisis Superman is stronger.

As for winning, I would tend to back team 2 as composite superman can take All star Superman while Abraxas should take Kal Kent.

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You are both quite correct.

The page does say that this is not his upper limit.

We know that All Star Superman can lift 200 quintillion tonnes.

SA Superman can push the Earth out of orbit easily. That is a minimum of 6000000000000000000000 tonnes (6 followed by 21 zeros)

200 Qunitilion tonnes is 200000000000000000000 tonnes (2 followed by 20 zeros).

Planet Earth weight / 200 quintillion tonnes = 30.

Therefore All Star Superman would have had to be at least 30x stronger than shown to approach Pre-crisis Superman's strength.

As All Star Superman has not displayed the ability to move planets (of Earth's size), his upper strength limit is an unknown.

The only facts we have to go on are that from the top strength feats displayed, Pre-crisis Superman's are greater in scope.

Therefore until proven otherwise, All Star Superman is not as strong as Pre-crisisi Superman.

We can assume he is as strong but we cannot offer any proof to support this claim.

"Strange Doctor said:

"I thought All-Star Superman was current Superman with his powers tripled when he went in the sun and he was immune to kryptonite. I don't have any comics with Composite Superman but isn't he 3 times as powerful as Silver Age Superman with the powers of the legion?
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From what I have seen All Star Superman was suppose to be stronger than Silver Age Superman... now I dont know to what degree though
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"the creator said:

"King Saturn said:

And since All Star Superman's strength is somewhat superior to what the Superman of the Pre Crisis era has... I can see All Star Superman giving Composite Superman hell in the fight
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No, All Star Superman can only lift 200 quintillion tonnes and this is less than the weight of the planet Earth. Pre-crisis Superman can move the Earth. Therefore Pre-crisis Superman is stronger.

As for winning, I would tend to back team 2 as composite superman can take All star Superman while Abraxas should take Kal Kent.

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I thought they said that he was lifting 200 quintillion tons and they still couldn't find an upper body limit.
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Kal Kent's team wins. Kal Kent can destroy planets by effortless will-power and strength. The dude can run faster than the speed of light with no energy being used.he also has additional powers such as super ESP, force vision, telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation, magic manipulation, heat manipulation, electicity manipulation and 10 senses! He's smarter than braniac-5 and has invisiblility powers. How does HE lose?

"King Saturn said:

"Strange Doctor said:

"I thought All-Star Superman was current Superman with his powers tripled when he went in the sun and he was immune to kryptonite. I don't have any comics with Composite Superman but isn't he 3 times as powerful as Silver Age Superman with the powers of the legion?
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From what I have seen All Star Superman was suppose to be stronger than Silver Age Superman... now I dont know to what degree though
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All Star Superman is based on PC Superman, as Morrison has stated/described! Nowhere has it been said/stated that he's stronger/weaker than PC Superman, just that he's based on PC Superman, which distinguishes him from current or any other Superman, so lets not speculate, shall we :-)"

@Triumphant: How does any of that matter when he is facing an entity that made entire universes collapse in on themselves by simply existing? That, and Composite Superman? No way, Team 2 stomps

@bee14ish said:

@Triumphant: How does any of that matter when he is facing an entity that made entire universes collapse in on themselves by simply existing? That, and Composite Superman? No way, Team 2 stomps

Cant comment much against Abraxas, he did kill multiple galactus from other realities so yeah he's insanely powerful, but this composite superman doesnt have much feats though. People tend to confuse this Composite Superman, which if memory serves correctly appeared in two Superman/Batman issue with the composite Superman pre-crisis, the latter of whom was powerful enough to beat the entire Justice League. Even this current Superman did have all their powers, much like Amazo, he was only said to have 1/10 of everyone's powers. Also he has huge mental problem and he killed himself.

Team 2 should definitely win, in a stomp if anything, but thats not because of Composite Superman (current) but rather because of Abraxas, Kal Kent should more than easily handle Composite Superman though.

@Killemall: Yeah, I read that Composite Superman was SA Supes with the powers of the Legion. Anyway, I was just saying it sounded like he was saying Kal and All Star could hurt Abraxas, and we all know that isn't true.

Team 2 

Abraxus solo's.

@lol: Please don't bump these lol. This is clearly spite