Kakashi(Naruto) vs Esdeath(AgK)

Well you're right.. but being time and space stopper is one of the strongest ability in the universe. Just think what if she freeze time and space when she fight Goku, Superman, and many toptiers anime verse. She'll become the strongest in the universe. Well you're right, if she doesn't use ttime freeze she's just kitten, she's just an A-S rnak ninja in naruto verse and far below Akatsuki level, what do you think if she stop time in anruto,bleach, dbz, marvel and dc verse?could she solo the entire verse?

@andr413: Ok, hypothetically if esdeath did indeed use time freeze lets say against a character like superman before superman could attack her(which is false but this is a what if scenario so I'll for a lack of better words play along) what attack in her arsenal would be able to put a dent in him.

Well don't compare to Superman with really impressive strength and power, he can't pierce by Esdeath ordinary sword. How about for example we compare to Ichigo or Itachi, well just give example that she attack Ichigo before he attacks her (it is also false too), after she uses mahapada she will just slash him and stab his heart and then died, well what is your opinion about that skills? It's too GG and OP rightt, nexttime i'll make thread which Esdeath can use mahapada at the beginning and compare which one will be faster and stronger XP

@andr413: Esdeath could kill Itachi in a scenario where time is frozen if susanoo is not activated, but Ichigo is pretty durable so I don't think esdeath would be able to put a dent in him either.

Yeah you're right, but have you thought that Itachi could beat any characters in anime/dc/marvel verse? His Susanoo if pierce or slash the enemy, it'll seal it. He can use Amaterasu to burn the big creature even it's invunerable, he also can use tsukoyomi at the beginning, so he can kill Esdeath with no difficulty. Have you ever thought until reach that? Itachi tsukoyomi can catch even Superman, if Superman see Itachi eyes it's over don't u think?

@andr413: but what about kakashis perfect susanoo... esdeath could never pierce it, after she gets tired from stopping time... she will get stomped!

Well if the reader wants more feats than it's fine, but it's rather unfair because we already know the result.. Susanoo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Time Stopper, ordinary Kakashi is clever and smart ninja, and Esdeath is rather sadistic bloodlust girl who enjoy torture human.

@vintage_spiderman@pierpat I don't know how Esdeath can counter this

Kamui Shurikens

@synchronized_123: he needed the help of other people to pull that off and even then it didn't work. He needs prep time for kamui.

Esdeath is faster and she can fly right now.

@bboyyomama: The only help he received was Obito's eyes.

No, she isn't. One of the fastest characters, Akame was only hyped up to move at mach 1. Mach 1! Kakashi by this time is hypersonic.

@synchronized_123:

Obito's eyes are very powerful. And that kamui shuriken failed anyway.

No no, no akame's travel speed is stated to be many times Mach speed. Akame and the rest of night raid's combat speeds are even faster, all massively supersonic. They casually react to and dodge lightning without warning. Tatsumi is fast enough to resist absolute zero. Esdeath beat the entire night raid team twice without getting hit a single time. All Akame ga kill characters casually react to, dodge, and slice machine gun bullets after leaving the barrel. I would provide scans for all those feats but I'm on my phone right now.

Sasuke dodging itachi's lightning was considered a big speed feat and he had warning. Kakashi isn't even as fast as 2 pein paths. And he hasn't gotten that much faster since. Unless you provide speed feats.

I only said Kakashi's speed is lower than esdeath's. Compared to guys like gai and raikage, kakashi is pretty slow. Kakashi's main strengths aren't speed. It's intelligence and hax powers.

That said, esdeath still wins.

@bboyyomama:

Because it was used on Kaguya? You and I both know that Kaguya would literally laugh at anything AgK verse can throw at her, while she in turn vaporizes the whole verse with a casual bijuu dama or tsb.

No, she is not. I can say so because I'm updated on the manga.

I dont even know why you brought up sasuke.

Okay, and?

@synchronized_123: no you're obviously not up to date in the manga otherwise you'd know how fast they are.

Whatever bijuu Dama she uses will easily get reflected by susanoo's mirror of yata or mines' pumpkin.

Until now you still haven't provided feats of Kakashi's speed. Until you do, esdeath is faster.

@Bboyyomama: LMAO mine along with her weapon get turned into nothingness from either godou dama or BB then kaguya proceeds to solo the AGK verse.As for this fight,if esdeth stops time from the very begining then kakashi dies,if she tries to test how strong he is,kakashi wins with the time he has

@tiraomoz: you don't even know how pumpkin works.

You know kakashi loses so you feel the need to bring kaguya into the discussion huh

Kakashi is too versatile, tbh

@Bboyyomama: Kakashi would loose if esdeth stops time but if she doesn't then she will do nothing to him with her ice ability because he could just kamui her head off.Also I know how pumpkin works,she would die of exhaustion just from pulling out a BB of 10 tails level and I'm very sure she can't even pull it off to begin with.Also I'm not the one who brought kaguya into the discussion,I only responded to your earlier comment

Lol at Akame being mach1.

Akame casually dodged lightning.and Esdeath blitz her multiple times.

Esdeath wins with or without timefreeze , via freezing.

@xiokenji:

And from this I can tell you don't read the manga..

Budo's lightning. No, she didn't. Esdeath at most, only pushed Akame on the defensive. Most of the time, Akame was keeping up with her.

She gets her head kamui'd.

@bboyyomama:

Yes, I am. It's just you wanking Esdeath. Or do I have to bring out that Kakashi has FTL reactions during the Land of Waves arc?

Proof that it can block a continental buster? Otherwise NFL, or you must be stupid enough to think that it can block a multiversal buster. And mine giving it her all destroyed her mind and pumpkin. Not only that, but I actually doubt what Mine even showed was even mountain level.

Like you did. All you said was "dey fast den lietnung. Ezded win cuz u dnt provd feets."

@tiraomoz: when has he ever successfully used kamui to kill someone

@synchronized_123: when has Akame ever kept up with Esdeath 1v1?

I don't consider the haki Mirror feat legit. They are not ftl.

Proof that what can block a continental buster? Kakashi has never showed continental busting shit. Wtf are you talking about. Only Naruto and sasuke showed something even close to continental.

Every feat I've provided is written and shown clearly in the manga.

Esdeath wins unless you provide feats.

Go reread their fight with Budo , she dodged it twice , but don't bother since you've never read AgK , I'll post it for you.

And Akame can't keepup with Esdeath , it's always the whole gang.

One while fighting Esdeath and once when they were escaping.

Unless you're trying to convince me that Budo's clouds don't produce "natural" lightning.

@claymore1998

You seems to like AGK, what do you think?

I'm sorry if I already tagged you before

@khael: Hehe well my avatar itself used to be Esdeath so what can i say hehe.

Honestly, I don't think this is as easy to decide. Esdeath ability to freeze space and time itself is her biggest arsenal here but we do not know if that would work on Kakashi. The overall argument would hang onto that because if she can stop time itself she has a massive advantage.

@Bboyyomama: In character kakashi wouldn't use kamui on her because of his low chakra reserve he would want to save it for the battle,however if he knows about her ability,then kamui would be among his top priority jutsu's to use,that is why I said if she stops time from the begining then kakashi dies but if she doesn't then she dies,assuming he knows that is.

@xiokenji:

Sure, whatever. Just see this link. http://www.mangahop.com/Akame_ga_Kill/61/37/

A gathering of "natural" lightning, where unsurprisingly, a lightning Teigu user is? I guess we learn new stuff everday.(Sarcasm)

Being pushed on the defensive is far from your incredibly stupid saying of getting blitzed. So Akame not being to react to a single attack accounts to her being blitzed by Esdeath? Otherwise I could say the same about Esdeath not being able to react to Tatsumi's blow as well.

@synchronized_123:

Since when is travel speed = combat/reaction speed?

Akame dodged lightning , Esdeath is superior to her in stats , simple as that.

Yes , not being able to react to a single attack is the same as getting blitz And Esdeath was underestimating Tatsumi.

@xiokenji:

Since when was dodging magic lightning, lightning speed?

Kratos from God of War dodged lightning(also confirmed to dodge literal lightning by the developers), Cloud from Final Fantasy dodged lightning, Spiderman from the movies dodged it, yet no one has ever put them near lightning speed.

That's probably the funniest reasoning I've ever seen from you. And also, sure, she underestimated Tatsumi. Still doesn't excuse her from being "blitzed" assuming we're using your logic here.

I think Kakashi would be slightly faster. I say Kakashi because idk how Esdeath would hit him.

@synchronized_123:

It was generated from a cloud. but if we go by your logic , most manga and anime characters wouldn't be lightning dodgers since they dodged directed or magical lightning.

I put Kratos as a Lightning dodger/massively hypersonic , and I use it in every argument against or with him. and I've seen enough debaters that put him in lightning speed category. Don't know enough about Amazing Spidey 2 or Cloud to comment.

@xiokenji:

Yes, that is right.

Yet most of the people here put him as having only peak human combat speed.

I dunno about what Kakashi can do but the stop time crap makes me laugh. Her timestop is merely an ability that freezes every atom down to such a temperature so it appears time is frozen since eveything is not moving. However those with cold resistance can resist it or be immune to it (Tatsumi with Incursio). That being said, pseudo timestop is useless if your opponent has ways of bypassing it, being completely immune to it, outhaxing it by bouncing it back to you (Dark Schneider) or if you can't even scratch your opponent etc.

Kakashi takes this

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Esdeath handily

Kamui snipe.

Take away her ice powers and she still stomps.

Esdeath can take it

Esdeath. She doesn't even need her Teigu.

Esdeath literally destroys every version of Kakashi at once

Pre time-skip Kakashi is enough to be honest, too fast, versatile, and Genjutsu can oneshot. Post time-skip Kakashi neg diffs with one Kamui.

Esdeath stomps any version of Kakashi that is not DMS and with Prep she can probably even kill DMS kakashi via Time/Space freeze.

non DMS Kakashi in terms of AP/DC is not very powerful, a random attack from Pumpkin is above anything kakashi has besides Kamui, in terms of Physical stats kakashi gets slap to death by Esdeath.

dms stomps her

Kakashi.