Justice League Tournament Round 1: GuardianPrime vs ThatThorFan

Morals On

Pre-New 52

Standard Gear

Location: Power Plant

Guardian's team

• Captain Marvel Jr.
• Ted Kord
• John Stewart

ThatThor's team

• Firestorm
• Blue Beetle (Jamie)
• Starfire

@menaceforever:

Hmm..I must have missed this entry. If I can vote, I think team 1. With or without prep I think team 1 is more serious. team 2 has power but have wishy washy dudes. Like having Guy Gardner compared to Hal Jordan

Anyone can vote

Team 1 most likely. Ted Kord could hold off Blue Beetle while John Sfewart defeats Firestorm and helps Marvel Jr. defeat Starfire. Then they gang on Jaime.

team 1

team 1

I'm already torn in between the two.

Ted Kord is useless here after Firestorm transmutes his gear into a bunny outfit. Team 2 wins in the resulting melee.

bump

@boschePG: @YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: @marvelbeast: @TheGraySon: @catofellow: You know guy's it's customary to allow the two combatants in a tourney debate before we vote. Just saying, it's supposed to be about how it was debated.

@beatboks1: Yeah I am considering these votes but not as actual votes until at least 1 of the contestants start debating.

@Guardian_Prime and @ThatThorFan

my bad

Hmm team 1 for now

Having the power of Shazam in durability, strength, and speed. And the power of Shazam can be argued to equal with Supes, I don't feel as if Starfire can do much damage to Freddy even though it's not Billy. And which Firestorm did he choose? And I feel like Ted Kord is older so he'd have more experience with the scarab than a teenager, but then again it could just be a stalemate.

He didn't say so I assume Jason

@beatboks1 said:

@boschePG: @YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: @marvelbeast: @TheGraySon: @catofellow: You know guy's it's customary to allow the two combatants in a tourney debate before we vote. Just saying, it's supposed to be about how it was debated.

This giving my thoughts. That wasn't my vote though.

If Jason is Firestorm I don't see how John couldn't take him? Unless I'm proves or "convinced" by something other wise.

so far i like team 1 more but i'll wait for the participant debate to cash my vote

Sorry, new, when it said anyone can vote, I thought they meant now.

Yes. It is Jason that I chose for Firestorm.... he should not be underestimated. Starfire and CM Jr. can go at it and hold their grounds for a while. Firestorm could be able to transmute the ring of John's if he could breach the forcefield. Firestorm was arguably better than Hal in the Firestorm vs Hal Jordan thread. And Firestorm could easily take out Ted and CM Jr. in a matter of seconds. Which would allow Beetle to help Starfire causing inexperienced CM Jr to fall. And Jamie > Ted . Beetles weaponry is one of the most impressive. He alone could take out 2 (maybe all) members of the team.

Since Johns ring is made of matter, it can be transmuted. Which is an easy kill for Firestorm. So we can say Firestorm and Beetle alone could take out the team.

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

Team 1 most likely. Ted Kord could hold off Blue Beetle while John Sfewart defeats Firestorm and helps Marvel Jr. defeat Starfire. Then they gang on Jaime.

Do you really think Stewart would beat firestorm? His ring is made of matter, which will be transmuted. He would kill Ted before the action started even happening... which will provide Beetle to quickly kill Marvel Jr.

@marvelbeast@spawn_123@RIKR2@TheGraySon

Care to explain or read what I have shown? It seems that since you guys did not prove reasoning that you are willing to be proven otherwise...

@menaceforever said:

He didn't say so I assume Jason

Is it safe to go ahead and put Firestorm (Jason) for other members? Sorry I didnt clarify!

@ThatThorFan: He is the most known so i just put him.

@menaceforever: Ok. I am shocked how many people underestimated my team really. Hopefully they will comment back soon with an explanation or change... I think I explained myself good enough above lol. How long does it take for Round 2 to start?

@ThatThorFan: When the thread dies or when both debaters have made their points.

@ThatThorFan: pretty much sums it all down. Firestorm would wipe Ted instantly lol. He is deadweight here. And Captain Marvel Jr would go at it with Starfire for quite some time. Without help though, I think Captain Marvel Jr would beat her... but since Beetle is free, he would easily stomp Captain Marvel Jr. Blue Beetle basic weaponry is amazing! His scarab will tell him everyones weakness. He alone could kill the team I think.

Going with Team 2 100%.

@ThatThorFan: Sorry im still new so i thought we just gave our opinions. I dont think he can transmute the ring... i remember seeing a scan for this very situation. ill try and find it. But anyways assuming he cant transmute the ring, i think john could take him and im pretty confident cap can take starfire. even if hes not billy, starfires a hot head and freddy has got the wisdom of a god and the durability and strength to slug it out. Sorry but im confused.. i thought ted kord was blue beetle?

edit: oh it was this. it wasnt a ring but it was oan technology so i think the ring falls under it.

@TheGraySon said:

team 1

@menaceforever said:

• Blue Beetle (Jamie)

Ahh just noticed this and how does Janie Reyes qualify as a "human or LOW LEVEL" power character (because that's where he's picked). He is and always was GL level. Starfire is actually the weakest link in that team.

@ThatThorFan said:

And Jamie > Ted . Beetles weaponry is one of the most impressive. He alone could take out 2 (maybe all) members of the team.

and thats your low level????

Trust me the second round will go slower.

Majority Rules in the favor of Guardian_Prime