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#1  Edited By ThoughtRobot

Pre 52 League: Superman, Wally West, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, and Hal Jordan

616 Avengers: Hulk, Thor, Ironman, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Sentry

Team is bloodlusted

Zoom is bloodlusted

Zoom only has knowledge on Justice League

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If Wally can buy time for Wanda for cook up something with her plot....I mean Hex magic. Team could possibly pull this off.

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So... basically zoom vs wally west. Wally wins if morals off.

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#5  Edited By Beware_My_Power

Zoom bloodlusted isn't gonna waste his time toying with wally. Depends on whether he has knowledge on the team's abilities.

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Nobody other than Wally can even react to Zoom...he wins, throw a Stable Sentry on the Avengers team to make things more interesting.

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Now Sentry is involved...let the Sentry fans come out of hiding...

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Sentry's been added to the team.

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@leo-343: People are basically saying its spite lol.

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How does Sentry help? Is Time Manip part of his powerset?

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How does Sentry help? Is Time Manip part of his powerset?

Sentrys powers are whatever the writers need them to be. He's shown reality warping powers and apparently like Zoom he somewhat moves ahead of time.

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@shazam117 said:

How does Sentry help? Is Time Manip part of his powerset?

Sentrys powers are whatever the writers need them to be. He's shown reality warping powers and apparently like Zoom he somewhat moves ahead of time.

I had no idea Sentry could Time Manip. I know he's displayed molecular manip among all the other stuff he can do.... but he can control time as well? Are there scans of this?

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@sophisticated_ignorance said:

@shazam117 said:

How does Sentry help? Is Time Manip part of his powerset?

Sentrys powers are whatever the writers need them to be. He's shown reality warping powers and apparently like Zoom he somewhat moves ahead of time.

I had no idea Sentry could Time Manip. I know he's displayed molecular manip among all the other stuff he can do.... but he can control time as well? Are there scans of this?

He hasn't shown TIME manipulation but has shown molecular as you yourself has stated...and wasn't Captian Atom able to negate Flashes speed with his powers? It could be speculated that Sentry could do the same.

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@shazam117 said:

@sophisticated_ignorance said:

@shazam117 said:

How does Sentry help? Is Time Manip part of his powerset?

Sentrys powers are whatever the writers need them to be. He's shown reality warping powers and apparently like Zoom he somewhat moves ahead of time.

I had no idea Sentry could Time Manip. I know he's displayed molecular manip among all the other stuff he can do.... but he can control time as well? Are there scans of this?

He hasn't shown TIME manipulation but has shown molecular as you yourself has stated...and wasn't Captian Atom able to negate Flashes speed with his powers? It could be speculated that Sentry could do the same.

I have no idea, one of the Flash experts running around here could better answer that one!

I'm still trying to figure out how Sentry (like everyone else on team, with MAYBE the exception of Wally) gets ahead of Zoom, since he's further along the time stream than everyone else. How do they stop him if he's basically a step ahead everyone here? Who has the power set to neutralize that? MAYBE Wanda? ...But I'm thinking she gets murdered before she even realizes what heck is going on.

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Zoom got this .

:)

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Zoom.

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ZOOOOOOOOOOM

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I don't know why people think Zoom is that much faster than Wally. I wonder, do Zooms thoughts count as moving faster than thought?

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I truly hate speedsters...

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Everyone here probably dies if Wally can't stop it. Wally may be able to edge out a win.

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@wardemon32: youndon't have to be much faster to beat someone. If Wally is moving 13 trillion times FTL and Zoom is moving 13,000001 times FTL, Wally still wouldn't be able to tag him.

Anyway, this is a Zoom vs Wally fight, and a bloodlusted Zoom would take it.

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Team is now bloodlusted, would that make the fight a little bit more fair?

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Thor, Scarlet Witch, and Sentry could take this. MMH would help. Hulk too.

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The double team handle this.

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This is another Wally vs Zoom fight. And Zoom still wins it.

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@leo-343 said:

@darkraiden said:

Thor, Scarlet Witch, and Sentry could take this. MMH would help. Hulk too.

None of them are fast enough to deal with a normal Zoom, let alone a bloodlusted Zoom.

Yeah they are. More importantly, they're durable enough to last and eventually hit him.

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#36  Edited By Saint_Sophie

I was gonna comment on this, but now I think I'll keep my distance.. *watches from the sidelines*

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#39  Edited By Saint_Sophie

@leo-343: Yep. But if a flame war does start, it'd be entertaining to read some of the comments lol.

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@drfate said:

@wardemon32: youndon't have to be much faster to beat someone. If Wally is moving 13 trillion times FTL and Zoom is moving 13,000001 times FTL, Wally still wouldn't be able to tag him.

Anyway, this is a Zoom vs Wally fight, and a bloodlusted Zoom would take it.

So Zoom will be 13 million times the speed of light? Wally has tagged Zoom already. A morals off Wally could take it against a bloodlusted Zoom also.

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I dunno, man, depending on Sentry's situation Zoom might not be able to put him down. Dude's come back from outright dying and molecular disintegration before. Obviously if it's, like, normal knockoff Superman Sentry then he goes down but he hasn't been that in awhile.

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... Mismatch ... Team stomps

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Oh boy...

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@leonkarlen123: Most people on here say otherwise. Looks like your statement is invalid. (:

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#50  Edited By Wardemon32

@leo-343:

Zoom wins how many times. Wally can beat Zoom also. And he definately wins if he can manage to keep the JLA and Avengers alive logn enough. Or atleast Scarlet Witch who might be able to do something.