Juggernaut vs Molecule Man
1st Battle - Molecule Man before Doom open his mind
2nd Battle - Molecule Man after his mind was open by Doom
Remember, this is his levels as shown during the Secret War
Juggernaut will win 'eventually'
however, MM can always BFR the juggernaut or warp reality around juggernuat to give MM enough time to run out of the battlefield.
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:I guess in your opinion" NO BFR! "Then how is there going to be a win then? "
MM loses
" wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "i'm not a fan of juggernaut. i'm just sticking to the rules of marvel.
don't get me wrong, juggernaut can lose. he can loose through mental attacks, and he can lose through BFR.
" @texasdeathmatch said:So you think the only way MM can win ( both levels)" wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "i'm not a fan of juggernaut. i'm just sticking to the rules of marvel. don't get me wrong, juggernaut can lose. he can loose through mental attacks, and he can lose through BFR. "
Is mentally or BFR?
Molecule Man buries Juggernaut under 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 tons of adamantinium
fight over,Juggs is incapacitaded
" Molecule Man buries Juggernaut under 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 tons of adamantinium fight over,Juggs is incapacitaded "Hmmm
Must admit that I didn't see that comin
" Molecule Man buries Juggernaut under 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 tons of adamantinium fight over,Juggs is incapacitaded "See, there you go!
" @texasdeathmatch said:Yeah I understand. It's just ridiculous that his power is "to never get hurt." Like to me, that is an insanely stupid and a really unappealing power. So many fans out there, I'm just curious why no one's jumped on the Squirrel Girl wagon yet. Maybe I should start that..." wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "i'm not a fan of juggernaut. i'm just sticking to the rules of marvel. don't get me wrong, juggernaut can lose. he can loose through mental attacks, and he can lose through BFR. "
i will take that as a compliment" @Matezoide said:
" Molecule Man buries Juggernaut under 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 tons of adamantinium fight over,Juggs is incapacitaded "Hmmm Must admit that I didn't see that comin "
" @Grand Ninja said:yes, bc he can not warp juggernuat. bc juggernaut is not made of pysical matter anymore. He is a solid mass of magic." @texasdeathmatch said:So you think the only way MM can win ( both levels) Is mentally or BFR? "" wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "i'm not a fan of juggernaut. i'm just sticking to the rules of marvel. don't get me wrong, juggernaut can lose. he can loose through mental attacks, and he can lose through BFR. "
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:laaaaaaame" @Grand Ninja said:yes, bc he can not warp juggernuat. bc juggernaut is not made of pysical matter anymore. He is a solid mass of magic. "" @texasdeathmatch said:So you think the only way MM can win ( both levels) Is mentally or BFR? "" wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "i'm not a fan of juggernaut. i'm just sticking to the rules of marvel. don't get me wrong, juggernaut can lose. he can loose through mental attacks, and he can lose through BFR. "
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:he can put Juggernaut inside a dome and send it to space" @Grand Ninja said:yes, bc he can not warp juggernuat. bc juggernaut is not made of pysical matter anymore. He is a solid mass of magic. "" @texasdeathmatch said:So you think the only way MM can win ( both levels) Is mentally or BFR? "" wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "i'm not a fan of juggernaut. i'm just sticking to the rules of marvel. don't get me wrong, juggernaut can lose. he can loose through mental attacks, and he can lose through BFR. "
i will stick with my adamantium ideia
" @Grand Ninja said:your adamantium idea is very clearer i give you that... but remember..." @StrongestOneThereIs said:he can put Juggernaut inside a dome and send it to space i will stick with my adamantium ideia "" @Grand Ninja said:yes, bc he can not warp juggernuat. bc juggernaut is not made of pysical matter anymore. He is a solid mass of magic. "" @texasdeathmatch said:So you think the only way MM can win ( both levels) Is mentally or BFR? "" wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "i'm not a fan of juggernaut. i'm just sticking to the rules of marvel. don't get me wrong, juggernaut can lose. he can loose through mental attacks, and he can lose through BFR. "
juggernaut can teleport. =(
" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in.
" @geraldthesloth said:I'm talking about the gem, not the cosmos" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
" @Grand Ninja said:The physical gem right? I mean if Onslaught can rip it out, can't MM? Or is there something PIS about Onslaught and ya da ya da?" @geraldthesloth said:I'm talking about the gem, not the cosmos "" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
" @geraldthesloth said:either way if it has a physical form it can be disspersed along with that shield of his." @Grand Ninja said:The physical gem right? I mean if Onslaught can rip it out, can't MM? Or is there something PIS about Onslaught and ya da ya da? "" @geraldthesloth said:I'm talking about the gem, not the cosmos "" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
" @Matezoide said:only when he is Trion,actualy,he stil havent performed such a feat on his power alone (as far as i know)" @Grand Ninja said:your adamantium idea is very clearer i give you that... but remember... juggernaut can teleport. =( "" @StrongestOneThereIs said:he can put Juggernaut inside a dome and send it to space i will stick with my adamantium ideia "" @Grand Ninja said:yes, bc he can not warp juggernuat. bc juggernaut is not made of pysical matter anymore. He is a solid mass of magic. "" @texasdeathmatch said:So you think the only way MM can win ( both levels) Is mentally or BFR? "" wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "i'm not a fan of juggernaut. i'm just sticking to the rules of marvel. don't get me wrong, juggernaut can lose. he can loose through mental attacks, and he can lose through BFR. "
" @Grand Ninja said:" @geraldthesloth said:I'm talking about the gem, not the cosmos "" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
the gem is not physical. Cain found the gem as a solid, b ut it dissapeared. where did it go? hint... it's not in his chest.
@texasdeathmatch said:
" @geraldthesloth said:" @Grand Ninja said:The physical gem right? I mean if Onslaught can rip it out, can't MM? Or is there something PIS about Onslaught and ya da ya da? "" @geraldthesloth said:I'm talking about the gem, not the cosmos "" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
onsluahgt never ripped the gem out. You see the gem being ripped from his chest, but that was the perspective of onslaught. He used a illusion to make juggernaut think he was vulnerable to onslaught.
" @geraldthesloth said:yep,he scared Juggernaut so he wouldnt be a problem,Onslaught never ripped the gem out,the gem isnt even truly physical,Juggs has smashed it before but it always came back" @Grand Ninja said:" @geraldthesloth said:I'm talking about the gem, not the cosmos "" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
the gem is not physical. Cain found the gem as a solid, b ut it dissapeared. where did it go? hint... it's not in his chest.
@texasdeathmatch said:" @geraldthesloth said:onsluahgt never ripped the gem out. You see the gem being ripped from his chest, but that was the perspective of onslaught. He used a illusion to make juggernaut think he was vulnerable to onslaught. "" @Grand Ninja said:The physical gem right? I mean if Onslaught can rip it out, can't MM? Or is there something PIS about Onslaught and ya da ya da? "" @geraldthesloth said:I'm talking about the gem, not the cosmos "" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
" @geraldthesloth said:That would require Cyttorak to be more powerful the MM." Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
" @Grand Ninja said:MM is omnipotent physical matter and it's energies. or niegh omnipotent with physical matter and energy. he has no scientical means of going in or out of the magical barrier of reality." @geraldthesloth said:That would require Cyttorak to be more powerful the MM. "" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
" @Lance Uppercut said:simply cutting it from it's source should do the trick since it's in his power." @Grand Ninja said:MM is omnipotent physical matter and it's energies. or niegh omnipotent with physical matter and energy. he has no scientical means of going in or out of the magical barrier of reality. "" @geraldthesloth said:That would require Cyttorak to be more powerful the MM. "" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
" @Lance Uppercut said:Except for, y'know, the ability to mess up a multiverse when pissed." @Grand Ninja said:MM is omnipotent physical matter and it's energies. or niegh omnipotent with physical matter and energy. he has no scientical means of going in or out of the magical barrier of reality. "" @geraldthesloth said:That would require Cyttorak to be more powerful the MM. "" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
Pre Retcon Molecule Man?
As in "Living Tribunal was on his knees begging to me" Molecule Man?
MM curbstomps horribly
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:MM completely destroyed Thor's Hammer, and he'll do the same thing to juggs, because, magic is magical energy, and mm can control all energy, so yeah..." @Grand Ninja said:yes, bc he can not warp juggernuat. bc juggernaut is not made of pysical matter anymore. He is a solid mass of magic. "" @texasdeathmatch said:So you think the only way MM can win ( both levels) Is mentally or BFR? "" wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "i'm not a fan of juggernaut. i'm just sticking to the rules of marvel. don't get me wrong, juggernaut can lose. he can loose through mental attacks, and he can lose through BFR. "
Good god.
Juggernaut has a chance with the first molecule man.
but with the second one.
NO.
Molecule Man makes a shield around himself that juggernaut cant destroy.
Then figures out that he is powered by cytorrak.
Molecule Man then uses this:
Then he repairs all that was destroyed except juggernaut and cytorrak.
And finally...
He makes sweet love with Volcana.
" @gobstakid777 said:don't have access to a comic book store, so yeah, you have to"What did he do? "Don't want to spoil it. "
" u know MM can control magic right? "and you know that juggernaut is immune to molecular manipulation, right?
" @gobstakid777 said:yea dude...Post retcon MM is below only the Abstracts and above on the power scale. Juggs gets stomped" u know MM can control magic right? "and you know that juggernaut is immune to molecular manipulation, right? "
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