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I know his ultimate version is out cosmic level but what about his earlier version from Secret Wars? 
 
1st Battle - Molecule Man before Doom open his mind
2nd Battle - Molecule Man after his mind was open by Doom
 
Remember, this is his levels as shown during the Secret War
 

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#2  Edited By Grand Ninja

Juggernaut will win 'eventually'
 
however, MM can always BFR the juggernaut or warp reality around juggernuat to give MM enough time to run out of the battlefield.

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NO BFR!

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#4  Edited By Grand Ninja
@StrongestOneThereIs said:
" NO BFR! "
Then how is there going to be a win then?
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@Grand Ninja said:
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:
" NO BFR! "
Then how is there going to be a win then? "
I guess in your opinion
MM loses
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#6  Edited By texasdeathmatch

wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control

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#7  Edited By Grand Ninja
@texasdeathmatch said:
" wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "
i'm not a fan of juggernaut. i'm just sticking to the rules of marvel.
don't get me wrong, juggernaut can lose. he can loose through mental attacks, and he can lose through BFR.
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@Grand Ninja said:
" @texasdeathmatch said:
" wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "
i'm not a fan of juggernaut. i'm just sticking to the rules of marvel. don't get me wrong, juggernaut can lose. he can loose through mental attacks, and he can lose through BFR. "
So you think the only way MM can win ( both levels)
Is mentally or BFR?
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#9  Edited By Matezoide2

Molecule  Man buries Juggernaut under 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 tons of adamantinium
fight over,Juggs is incapacitaded

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@Matezoide said:
" Molecule  Man buries Juggernaut under 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 tons of adamantinium fight over,Juggs is incapacitaded "
Hmmm
Must admit that I didn't see that comin
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#11  Edited By Grand Ninja
@Matezoide said:
" Molecule  Man buries Juggernaut under 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 tons of adamantinium fight over,Juggs is incapacitaded "
See, there you go!
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#12  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Grand Ninja said:
" @texasdeathmatch said:
" wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "
i'm not a fan of juggernaut. i'm just sticking to the rules of marvel. don't get me wrong, juggernaut can lose. he can loose through mental attacks, and he can lose through BFR. "
Yeah I understand. It's just ridiculous that his power is "to never get hurt." Like to me, that is an insanely stupid and a really unappealing power. So many fans out there, I'm just curious why no one's jumped on the Squirrel Girl wagon yet. Maybe I should start that...
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#13  Edited By Matezoide2
@StrongestOneThereIs said:

" @Matezoide said:

" Molecule  Man buries Juggernaut under 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 tons of adamantinium fight over,Juggs is incapacitaded "
Hmmm Must admit that I didn't see that comin "
i will take that as a compliment
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#14  Edited By Grand Ninja
@StrongestOneThereIs said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @texasdeathmatch said:
" wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "
i'm not a fan of juggernaut. i'm just sticking to the rules of marvel. don't get me wrong, juggernaut can lose. he can loose through mental attacks, and he can lose through BFR. "
So you think the only way MM can win ( both levels) Is mentally or BFR? "
yes, bc he can not warp juggernuat. bc juggernaut is not made of pysical matter anymore. He is a solid mass of magic.
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#15  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Grand Ninja said:
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @texasdeathmatch said:
" wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "
i'm not a fan of juggernaut. i'm just sticking to the rules of marvel. don't get me wrong, juggernaut can lose. he can loose through mental attacks, and he can lose through BFR. "
So you think the only way MM can win ( both levels) Is mentally or BFR? "
yes, bc he can not warp juggernuat. bc juggernaut is not made of pysical matter anymore. He is a solid mass of magic. "
laaaaaaame
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#16  Edited By geraldthesloth

Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no?

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#17  Edited By Matezoide2
@Grand Ninja said:
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @texasdeathmatch said:
" wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "
i'm not a fan of juggernaut. i'm just sticking to the rules of marvel. don't get me wrong, juggernaut can lose. he can loose through mental attacks, and he can lose through BFR. "
So you think the only way MM can win ( both levels) Is mentally or BFR? "
yes, bc he can not warp juggernuat. bc juggernaut is not made of pysical matter anymore. He is a solid mass of magic. "
he can put Juggernaut inside a dome and send it to space
 
i will stick with my adamantium ideia
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#18  Edited By Grand Ninja
@Matezoide said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @texasdeathmatch said:
" wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "
i'm not a fan of juggernaut. i'm just sticking to the rules of marvel. don't get me wrong, juggernaut can lose. he can loose through mental attacks, and he can lose through BFR. "
So you think the only way MM can win ( both levels) Is mentally or BFR? "
yes, bc he can not warp juggernuat. bc juggernaut is not made of pysical matter anymore. He is a solid mass of magic. "
he can put Juggernaut inside a dome and send it to space  i will stick with my adamantium ideia "
your adamantium idea is very clearer i give you that... but remember...
 
 
juggernaut can teleport. =(
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#19  Edited By Grand Ninja
@geraldthesloth said:
" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "
he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in.
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#20  Edited By geraldthesloth
@Grand Ninja said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "
he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
I'm talking about the gem, not the cosmos
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#21  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@geraldthesloth said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "
he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
I'm talking about the gem, not the cosmos "
The physical gem right? I mean if Onslaught can rip it out, can't MM? Or is there something PIS about Onslaught and ya da ya da?
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#22  Edited By geraldthesloth
@texasdeathmatch said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "
he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
I'm talking about the gem, not the cosmos "
The physical gem right? I mean if Onslaught can rip it out, can't MM? Or is there something PIS about Onslaught and ya da ya da? "
either way if it has a physical form it can be disspersed along with that shield of his.
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#23  Edited By Matezoide2
@Grand Ninja said:
" @Matezoide said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @texasdeathmatch said:
" wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "
i'm not a fan of juggernaut. i'm just sticking to the rules of marvel. don't get me wrong, juggernaut can lose. he can loose through mental attacks, and he can lose through BFR. "
So you think the only way MM can win ( both levels) Is mentally or BFR? "
yes, bc he can not warp juggernuat. bc juggernaut is not made of pysical matter anymore. He is a solid mass of magic. "
he can put Juggernaut inside a dome and send it to space  i will stick with my adamantium ideia "
your adamantium idea is very clearer i give you that... but remember...   juggernaut can teleport. =( "
only when he is Trion,actualy,he stil havent performed such a feat on his power alone (as far as i know)
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#24  Edited By InnerVenom123

Why is every battle thread with Juggernaut now? lol.
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#25  Edited By Grand Ninja
@geraldthesloth said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "
he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
I'm talking about the gem, not the cosmos "
 
 the gem is not physical. Cain found the gem as a solid, b ut it dissapeared. where did it go? hint... it's not in his chest.
 
 
 
@texasdeathmatch said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "
he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
I'm talking about the gem, not the cosmos "
The physical gem right? I mean if Onslaught can rip it out, can't MM? Or is there something PIS about Onslaught and ya da ya da? "
 
 onsluahgt never ripped the gem out. You see the gem being ripped from his chest, but that was the perspective of onslaught. He used a illusion to make juggernaut think he was vulnerable to onslaught.
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#26  Edited By Matezoide2
@Grand Ninja said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "
he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
I'm talking about the gem, not the cosmos "
 
 the gem is not physical. Cain found the gem as a solid, b ut it dissapeared. where did it go? hint... it's not in his chest.
 
 
 
@texasdeathmatch said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "
he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
I'm talking about the gem, not the cosmos "
The physical gem right? I mean if Onslaught can rip it out, can't MM? Or is there something PIS about Onslaught and ya da ya da? "
  onsluahgt never ripped the gem out. You see the gem being ripped from his chest, but that was the perspective of onslaught. He used a illusion to make juggernaut think he was vulnerable to onslaught. "
yep,he scared Juggernaut so he wouldnt be a problem,Onslaught never ripped the gem out,the gem isnt even truly physical,Juggs has smashed it before but it always came back
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#27  Edited By Lance Uppercut
@Grand Ninja said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "
he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
That would require Cyttorak to be more powerful the MM.
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#28  Edited By Grand Ninja
@Lance Uppercut said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "
he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
That would require Cyttorak to be more powerful the MM. "
MM is omnipotent physical matter and it's energies. or niegh omnipotent with physical matter and energy. he has no scientical means of going in or out of the magical barrier of reality.
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#29  Edited By geraldthesloth
@Grand Ninja said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "
he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
That would require Cyttorak to be more powerful the MM. "
MM is omnipotent physical matter and it's energies. or niegh omnipotent with physical matter and energy. he has no scientical means of going in or out of the magical barrier of reality. "
simply cutting it from it's source should do the trick since it's in his power.
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#30  Edited By SilverGalford

molecule man

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#31  Edited By Lance Uppercut
@Grand Ninja said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" Or he can simply disassemble the crimson gem no? "
he has no access to the crimson. unless cyttorak let's him in. "
That would require Cyttorak to be more powerful the MM. "
MM is omnipotent physical matter and it's energies. or niegh omnipotent with physical matter and energy. he has no scientical means of going in or out of the magical barrier of reality. "
Except for, y'know, the ability to mess up a multiverse when pissed.
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#32  Edited By gobstakid777

Pre Retcon Molecule Man?
As in "Living Tribunal was on his knees begging to me" Molecule Man?
 
MM curbstomps horribly

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#33  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

PR- Molecule Man for the megastomp.

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#34  Edited By Hadrelius

Juggernaut is made of molecules isn't he?
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#35  Edited By gobstakid777
@Alpha:Everything is made of particles, even the magical stuff
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#36  Edited By gobstakid777
@Grand Ninja said:
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:
" @Grand Ninja said:
" @texasdeathmatch said:
" wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "
i'm not a fan of juggernaut. i'm just sticking to the rules of marvel. don't get me wrong, juggernaut can lose. he can loose through mental attacks, and he can lose through BFR. "
So you think the only way MM can win ( both levels) Is mentally or BFR? "
yes, bc he can not warp juggernuat. bc juggernaut is not made of pysical matter anymore. He is a solid mass of magic. "
MM completely destroyed Thor's Hammer, and he'll do the same thing to juggs, because, magic is magical energy, and mm can control all energy, so yeah...
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#37  Edited By Hadrelius

MM would do to Juggernaut what he recently did to Sentry.
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#38  Edited By gobstakid777

What did he do?

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#39  Edited By xyrzrockrain

Good god. 
 
Juggernaut has a chance with the first molecule man. 
 
but with the second one. 
 
NO. 
 
Molecule Man makes a shield around himself that juggernaut cant destroy. 
Then figures out that he is powered by cytorrak. 
 
Molecule Man then uses this: 

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To destroy Cytorrak and Juggernaut completely. 
 
Then he repairs all that was destroyed except juggernaut and cytorrak. 
 
And finally... 
 
He makes sweet love with Volcana.
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#40  Edited By Hadrelius
@gobstakid777 said:
"What did he do? "

Don't want to spoil it.
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#41  Edited By gobstakid777
@Alpha said:
" @gobstakid777 said:
"What did he do? "
Don't want to spoil it. "
don't have access to a comic book store, so yeah, you have to
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#42  Edited By Hadrelius
@gobstakid777 said:
" @Alpha said:
" @gobstakid777 said:
"What did he do? "
Don't want to spoil it. "
don't have access to a comic book store, so yeah, you have to "

He destroyed him on a molecular level. Totally disintegrated.
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#43  Edited By gobstakid777

did Sentry heal back?

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#44  Edited By MisterGuyMan

MM doesn't need BFR.  He can destroy Jugs outright.

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#45  Edited By FLCL1
@texasdeathmatch said:
"wow, jugg's fanboyism is getting out of control "

agreed -_-
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#47  Edited By gobstakid777

u know MM can control magic right?

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@gobstakid777 said:
" u know MM can control magic right? "
and you know that juggernaut is immune to molecular manipulation, right?
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#49  Edited By gobstakid777
@the human Juggernaut said:
" @gobstakid777 said:
" u know MM can control magic right? "
and you know that juggernaut is immune to molecular manipulation, right? "
yea dude...Post retcon MM is below only the Abstracts and above on the power scale. Juggs gets stomped
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#50  Edited By Matezoide2
@Alpha said:
" @gobstakid777 said:
" @Alpha said:
" @gobstakid777 said:
"What did he do? "
Don't want to spoil it. "
don't have access to a comic book store, so yeah, you have to "
He destroyed him on a molecular level. Totally disintegrated. "
Sentry is dead?