Juggernaut vs Apocalypse

Juggernaut

http://www.comicvine.com/juggernaut/1445/

VS

Apocalypse

http://www.comicvine.com/apocalypse/7612/

do your research if you dont know anything about either.

lypse

Juggernaut. Apocalypse could knock Juggs around, but he won't hurt him. His powers aren't mystical, nor does he have any magical attacks to hurt Juggs. On top of that, how can Apoc stop a guy who's unstoppable?
Post Edited:2007-12-25 01:47:32

Phorqe says:

"lypse"

I honestly doubt there's anything apoc could do to juggy!

Juggers

Juggernaut

Apocalypse wins, he has the strength and firepower to hold him long enough for him to get the win. He just has too many resources in his abilities and technology, not to mention the obvious superior intellect and he has knowledge in the mystical field.
Post Edited:2007-12-29 02:37:45

yeah i gotta go apocalypse... he brings to much to the table

Depends on if Apocalypse remembers that he is in fact a telepath.

Apocalypse has so much potential to be a cool villain but since he's never written the same way twice, he loses that potential.

Zoom says:

"Depends on if Apocalypse remembers that he is in fact a telepath. Apocalypse has so much potential to be a cool villain but since he's never written the same way twice, he loses that potential."

exactly! he gets owned too much by the xmen, who can't even stop juggy! yeah, apoc has the potential to be one of the greatest villains, but unfortunately, that potential has never been tapped or shown! so juggy mows down apoc!

Juggernaut all the way. Apocolypse would know real fast this guy is UNSTOPPABLE!

Juggernaut wins. Anything less than magical power won't be enough, even that isn't enough sometimes. Juggernaut is just too strong.

I want to say Juggernaut wins. Mostly because Apocalypse gets owned by only a few x-men even. But Apocalypse can also increase his strength to levels surpassing that of the Hulk. So we know he's strong. Still can hurt Juggernaut. And like it was said, Briefly, Apocalypse has shown potential to be a powerful psionic. So enough potential to brain beat Juggernaut? It could go like Juggernaut runs into him and just tares Apocalypse apart or (more unlikely) Apocalypse gets real big fast and rips Juggernauts helmet off and psi blasts hi.

Winner: Juggernaut

Apoc. pound the living snot out of Juggers! He is psionic, stronger, bigger, faster, smarter, has shape shifting abilities, tougher and has technology that surpasses most. He's the daddy of super hard villians. If anything Marvel shot them selves in their feet with Apoc. Even tho he is so powerful, they had to let the X-Men win or the X-Men comics would only be about their struggle against Apoc.

Juggernaught would LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSE!

Apoc isn't stronger or tougher, but he is telepathic, except when he's not.

That should allow him to beat Cain...when he's telepathic...which is only sometimes.

apocalypse can absorb energy juggs gets energy from his helmut apoc would win

apocalypse can absorb energy juggs gets energy from his helmut apoc would win

kuchiku says:

"apocalypse can absorb energy juggs gets energy from his helmut apoc would win "

I must have completetly forgot the part of Juggernaut's power where he gets "energy from his helmut."

What are you talking about?

ok simple if juggs couldnt doit durig AoA than what makes you think he can now!!

kuchiku says:

"ok simple if juggs couldnt doit durig AoA than what makes you think he can now!!"

Oh, I don't think he can now (except when Apocalypse forgets about powers he has, which is all the time).

But as for AoA, Juggernaut was a passifist because of the death of his brother. He couldn't fight to defend himself despite being every bit as powerful (minus the helmet) as his 616 self, so he certainly wasn't in any condition to go take on Apocalypse.

ok cool

kuchiku says:

"apocalypse can absorb energy juggs gets energy from his helmut apoc would win "

Only a magical being can absorb the magic that gives Cain his power.

Apocalypse.

Juggernaut because of magical powers.

Juggernaut most likely. However; I'll say Apocalypse for this round because Apocalypse can grow in size to BFR the Juggernaut.

" @Perfect Cell: LOL.  Big  Apoc. How big can Apoc. get by the way? Apocalypse can only win with prep. "

" @Perfect Cell: LOL.  Big  Apoc. How big can Apoc. get by the way? Apocalypse can only win with prep. "

" @geraldthesloth: Telepathy can overcome Juggernaut's magical powers?  LOL.  Sure if Juggernaut does not use his magical powers then he would lose. "

juggenuat wins unless apocalypse takes off the helmet 1st, he can't use telepathy.

" @Grand Ninja: What do you mean can't use telepathy what are you referring to? "

" @geraldthesloth said:

" @Grand Ninja: What do you mean can't use telepathy what are you referring to? "

apocalpyse would need to take the helmet off 1st otherwise he can't use the telepathy to reach into his mind. "

" @Grand Ninja said:

" @geraldthesloth said:

" @Grand Ninja: What do you mean can't use telepathy what are you referring to? "

apocalpyse would need to take the helmet off 1st otherwise he can't use the telepathy to reach into his mind. "

I thought you meant something else, my apologies "

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" @geraldthesloth: LOL. Juggernaut's powers are magical, you know that right? As I said before, if Juggernaut uses his magical powers, then Apocalypse loses rather easily.   Apocalypse has no defense against magical powers.  Any other concerns? "

I thought Celestial Technology has part magic, or is it like Kree (anything is possible) science?

" @cracks: You avoided my request entirely. If you want to stake a claim that someone can or cannot do something I want you to provide an instance where this has been demonstrated to prove your point. You cannot claim someone is vulnerable to something when they prove to have consistently high levels of invulnerability. You cannot claim that because the origin of Juggernauts strength is a magical crystal that his physical damage would exploit a perceived magical weakness, the existence of which you have not provided a basis for.  My request is not unreasonable and not even saying either of them would necessarily would win. What I am saying is that your logic is faulty unless you have a factual basis for your way of thinking. "

1. Holocaust can absorb energy and his physical form was totally destroyed.
2. Cyclops and Juggernaut are very, very different and Cyclops was possessed by Apocalypse, it was Cable who killed him and he did such to his astral form not his physical body.
3. Jean Grey makes the Juggernaut look like a matchbox.
4. All of those involve powers that Juggernaut does not have.
5. None of those involve magic of any variety.

Seriously, you make him sound like Dr. Strange or something. 
 
The guy punches things, period.

I asked you to give examples of Juggernaut using magic and/or Apocalypse being weak to such magic. None of your examples involved magic of any kind so I think they're irrelevant. 
 
Also, all of your examples of Apocalypse being hurt are examples involving characters doing things Juggernaut can't do. Juggernaut can't use optic blasts like Cyclops, he can't use telekinesis and he certainly cannot produce a nuclear-level plasma blasts.

It was a question not an answer.