This is basically 8th day Juggernaut vs Dr. Strange considering both of them can solo the other team.
Strange wins because he currently is the Sorcerer Supreme with the Eye of Agamotto.
How is Strange going to deal with 8th day ? as hes got an incredible amp happening by Cyttorak who is far more powerful than everyone here.
Doesn't current Dr Strange have the Words? That he can use to basically rewrite anything in the universe?
Cyttorak is outside the nature order so that won't depower/kill/bfr 8th day.
Are you sure of that or is that an assumption? Do you have anything to back it up?
so Strange can not stop 8th day he'd need a power greater than Cyttoraks to do so.
@hellionvulcan: Well, he didn't "shut down" anything in that scan, all he did was teleport them out of his realm. And that was Cyttorak not Juggernaut. And it took place in Cyttorak's realm where he is stronger. I know Cyttorak is the one that empowers Juggernaut, but just like with Galactus and his heralds he does NOT give them his full power.
The scan before has Colossus trying to use the phoenix force against Cyttorak & yes he shuts it down but my main point was that you can't rewrite existence to depower/kill/bfr a Juggernaut unless Cyttorak wants it to happen.
@hellionvulcan: Sorcerer Supreme has beaten Shuma Gorath twice, and Shuma Gorath is just as powerful as Cyttorak if not stronger.
Pretty sure Cyttorak has been said to be more powerful than Shuma Gorath by marvel writers it just depends on the circumstances.
Pretty sure Cyttorak has been said to be more powerful than Shuma Gorath by marvel writers it just depends on the circumstances.
Yes, I remember this quote from 3 or 4 years ago. When Cyttorak was still abstract and his power had no clear ceiling. Since then he has become a bit more defined. Cain Marko, his own avatar, was able to resist him in his own dimension. He has had no quantifiable feats measurable to Shuma Gorath since that time, I think it is fair to say that this is outdated and came from a time when Cyttorak held more rank than what he shown he is worth today .
Shuma-Goraths feat trump Cyttorak's feats, I once would have said that Cyttorak was stronger the Shuma however he hasn't made the feats to back it up.
@hellionvulcan: Still yet, that was Cyttorak, not Juggernaut, so unless you want to change the battle to Strange vs Cyttorak it is not going to be the same results. And again, that was also in his own realm where he is stronger.
You said Dr strange can rewrite/change reality & i was proving that Juggernaut will be immune to it because Cyttorak & all his creations are outside natural law.
Pretty sure Cyttorak has been said to be more powerful than Shuma Gorath by marvel writers it just depends on the circumstances.
Yes, I remember this quote from 3 or 4 years ago. When Cyttorak was still abstract and his power had no clear ceiling. Since then he has become a bit more defined. Cain Marko, his own avatar, was able to resist him in his own dimension. He has had no quantifiable feats measurable to Shuma Gorath since that time, I think it is fair to say that this is outdated and came from a time when Cyttorak held more rank than what he shown he is worth today .
Shuma-Goraths feat trump Cyttorak's feats, I once would have said that Cyttorak was stronger the Shuma however he hasn't made the feats to back it up.
The best feats for Cyttorak is showing hes above skyfathers, over powering Galactus/Phoenix force in his dimension & Trion Juggernaut who is a dimension/reality destroyer but again its more to do with Marvel's lack of showings for him. Cyttorak is being shown in the once & future Juggernaut 4 issues as the second issue comes out tomorrow so hopefully Cyttorak does something or his new avatar does. I do agree with feats shown Shuma should win but i can't see Cyttorak losing at all.
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