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#1 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Big G would win but what do you all think?

#2 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think even Gladiator could physcially hurt the original Juggernaut. But, like superman, Gladiator can fly which means he could swoop down pick juggernaut up and deposit him on the moon...gladiator wins.

#3 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

Ya thats just what i was thinking physically no of course not Big G would get smacked, but if he used his other powers than he could beat him.

#4 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

Valkaad says:

"I don't think even Gladiator could physcially hurt the original Juggernaut. But, like superman, Gladiator can fly which means he could swoop down pick juggernaut up and deposit him on the moon...gladiator wins."

Exactly.

Gladiator is the physcially stronger of the 2 (Juggeranuts tremendous forward movement power is a mystic force so in reality his actual strength is a similar level to the Thing) but Gladiator could not damage Juggs.

But as Valkaad said, Gladiator can pul a Superman maneuver.

#5 Posted by never give up (9636 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator for the win.

#6 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
the creator said:
"

Valkaad says:

"I don't think even Gladiator could physcially hurt the original Juggernaut. But, like superman, Gladiator can fly which means he could swoop down pick juggernaut up and deposit him on the moon...gladiator wins."

Exactly.

Gladiator is the physcially stronger of the 2 (Juggeranuts tremendous forward movement power is a mystic force so in reality his actual strength is a similar level to the Thing) but Gladiator could not damage Juggs.

But as Valkaad said, Gladiator can pul a Superman maneuver.

"
completely untrue.
#7 Posted by never give up (9636 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator could just bfr him.

#8 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
never give up said:
"Gladiator could just bfr him."
sure, but juggernaut is much stronger than the thing.
#9 Posted by never give up (9636 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"Gladiator could just bfr him."
sure, but juggernaut is much stronger than the thing."
Gladiator did it before in a comic man juggernaut took flying lessons that day.
#10 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"Gladiator could just bfr him."
sure, but juggernaut is much stronger than the thing."
Gladiator did it before in a comic man juggernaut took flying lessons that day."
that wasn't canon.
#11 Posted by never give up (9636 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"Gladiator could just bfr him."
sure, but juggernaut is much stronger than the thing."
Gladiator did it before in a comic man juggernaut took flying lessons that day."
that wasn't canon."
It never is to you.  He still could do it to him and you know it because juggernaut has no counter for gladiator speed.

Well here it is.


#12 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"Gladiator could just bfr him."
sure, but juggernaut is much stronger than the thing."
Gladiator did it before in a comic man juggernaut took flying lessons that day."
that wasn't canon."
It never is to you.  He still could do it to him and you know it because juggernaut has no counter for gladiator speed.

Well here it is.


"
its not canon, its the xmen cartoon comic


and if you would read what i posted, i never said he wouldn't bfr him, so i don't know what you are trying to prove here.
#13 Posted by never give up (9636 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"Gladiator could just bfr him."
sure, but juggernaut is much stronger than the thing."
Gladiator did it before in a comic man juggernaut took flying lessons that day."
that wasn't canon."
It never is to you.  He still could do it to him and you know it because juggernaut has no counter for gladiator speed.

Well here it is.


"
its not canon, its the xmen cartoon comic


and if you would read what i posted, i never said he wouldn't bfr him, so i don't know what you are trying to prove here."
Took you a long time to reply. What defense does juggernaut have for gladiators speed.
#14 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

That art is garbage

#15 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"Gladiator could just bfr him."
sure, but juggernaut is much stronger than the thing."
Gladiator did it before in a comic man juggernaut took flying lessons that day."
that wasn't canon."
It never is to you.  He still could do it to him and you know it because juggernaut has no counter for gladiator speed.

Well here it is.


"
its not canon, its the xmen cartoon comic


and if you would read what i posted, i never said he wouldn't bfr him, so i don't know what you are trying to prove here."
Took you a long time to reply. What defense does juggernaut have for gladiators speed."
for the last time, read my earlier posts in this thread,  I said that gladiator could BFR him.
#16 Posted by never give up (9636 posts) - - Show Bio
Gambler said:
"That art is garbage"
lol.
#17 Posted by never give up (9636 posts) - - Show Bio
Okay human juggernaut gladiator is not weak.

Lifts the baxter building



Carries a ship




Blitz thor was not able to hit back if he cant juggernaut cant






Bring supreme into space before he was even able to react if he cant juggernaut cant





The only way to prove me wrong is by showing juggernaut having some reflexes to be able to react which im sure he does not have.
#18 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
never give up said:
"Okay human juggernaut gladiator is not weak.

Lifts the baxter building



Carries a ship




Blitz thor was not able to hit back if he cant juggernaut cant






Bring supreme into space before he was even able to react if he cant juggernaut cant





The only way to prove me wrong is by showing juggernaut having some reflexes to be able to react which im sure he does not have.
"
dude, taking a reading class.  What are you trying to prove here?  I said juggernaut was stronger than the thing.
#19 Posted by never give up (9636 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"Okay human juggernaut gladiator is not weak.

Lifts the baxter building



Carries a ship




Blitz thor was not able to hit back if he cant juggernaut cant






Bring supreme into space before he was even able to react if he cant juggernaut cant





The only way to prove me wrong is by showing juggernaut having some reflexes to be able to react which im sure he does not have.
"
dude, taking a reading class.  What are you trying to prove here?  I said juggernaut was stronger than the thing."
Face I don't care if you insult me gladiator wins this match and you know it.
#20 Posted by never give up (9636 posts) - - Show Bio
Godd night everybody I owned the human juggernaut hahaha!
#21 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaut is stronger than gladiator too

heard of the gem of cyttorak? :p

#22 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio

someone tell me what never give up is even talking about

#23 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm lost.

#24 Posted by Alexander Anderson (4030 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator.  Juggernaut is strong and tough as hell, but at the end of the day he's just a big tough tank who isn't very bright.  Gladiator can easily win via battlefield removal. 

Also, Gladiator punting Mjolnir is just f*cking hilarious.

#25 Posted by mimic12 (548 posts) - - Show Bio
  
#26 Posted by Meteorite (3351 posts) - - Show Bio

Original Juggernaut was invulnerable to anything but telepathy, as I recall. Gladiator can't win.

#27 Posted by slimredninja (7 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually Gladiators power is described as being what he needs it to be. As long as he believes he can do it  he can. In that same comic where he lifted that building reed richards comments on how the building should have crumbled to bits when gladiator held it up by one corner like that, but because he beleived he could lift the building without damaging it he did. So in theory if believed he could punch his fist through Juggernaut he could.

#28 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

With BFR, Gladiator wins (note: that's why it's stupid to have discussions about grounded bricks and flying bricks. Unless you say "no BFR," we know how it'll end).

Without it, Gladiator isn't hurting the Juggernaut no matter how many scans/videos you post from noncannon sources.  They're about as useful as the picture your little brother drew of Batman using heat vision.  If it ain't cannon, it don't count.

#29 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio
the creator said:
"

Valkaad says:

"I don't think even Gladiator could physcially hurt the original Juggernaut. But, like superman, Gladiator can fly which means he could swoop down pick juggernaut up and deposit him on the moon...gladiator wins."

Exactly.

Gladiator is the physcially stronger of the 2 (Juggeranuts tremendous forward movement power is a mystic force so in reality his actual strength is a similar level to the Thing) but Gladiator could not damage Juggs.

But as Valkaad said, Gladiator can pul a Superman maneuver.

"
I agree with this except of the level of strength. I put Juggernaut up there with Thor (class 100).
#30 Posted by kaino12 (3151 posts) - - Show Bio

people seem to not understand what FULL POWERED JUGGERNAUGHT is.
1 hes probably as big as glactus
2 he has pritty much evey power imangable
3 force field is now irrelevent cus his healing facor is so good that he could heal the damage as the blow is delt.
4 his force field is now impenetrable.
5 he says "U ARE A KITTY!!!" and galactus turns into a kitty.
full powered juggs means he has the total power of all 8 gods.

#31 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio
kaino12 said:
"people seem to not understand what FULL POWERED JUGGERNAUGHT is.
1 hes probably as big as glactus
2 he has pritty much evey power imangable
3 force field is now irrelevent cus his healing facor is so good that he could heal the damage as the blow is delt.
4 his force field is now impenetrable.
5 he says "U ARE A KITTY!!!" and galactus turns into a kitty.
full powered juggs means he has the total power of all 8 gods."
Where u get this from?

And even if it was true, he still would be no where near Galactus power. They are just gods. At best they maybe Odin's level each.
#32 Posted by kaino12 (3151 posts) - - Show Bio

in avengers they listed the gods powers.
and did u just say "there just gods"? gods have a way of beating everybody who think there stronger then them. and trion juggs never got to use all the powers he was given cus he was kinda mindless at the time. the same could not be said about FULL powered juggs. plus trion juggs would be able to atleast last agenst superboy prime and sbp is ALOT stronger then gladiator.
as much as i like gladiator to win (on account of his AWSOME hair.) he stands no chance.

#33 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
kaino12 said:
"in avengers they listed the gods powers.
and did u just say "there just gods"? gods have a way of beating everybody who think there stronger then them. and trion juggs never got to use all the powers he was given cus he was kinda mindless at the time. the same could not be said about FULL powered juggs. plus trion juggs would be able to atleast last agenst superboy prime and sbp is ALOT stronger then gladiator.
as much as i like gladiator to win (on account of his AWSOME hair.) he stands no chance."
fully powered juggernaut isn't trion juggernaut.  The one that fought world war hulk was.
#34 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
kaino12 said:
"people seem to not understand what FULL POWERED JUGGERNAUGHT is.
1 hes probably as big as glactus
2 he has pritty much evey power imangable
3 force field is now irrelevent cus his healing facor is so good that he could heal the damage as the blow is delt.
4 his force field is now impenetrable.
5 he says "U ARE A KITTY!!!" and galactus turns into a kitty.
full powered juggs means he has the total power of all 8 gods."
you are wrong on all counts.
#35 Posted by kaino12 (3151 posts) - - Show Bio

im assumeing u saw the avengers im talking about? and troin juggs had the power of 3 gods so full powered juggs would have the power of all 8 gods.

#36 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
kaino12 said:
"im assumeing u saw the avengers im talking about? and troin juggs had the power of 3 gods so full powered juggs would have the power of all 8 gods."
....
no.
#37 Posted by kaino12 (3151 posts) - - Show Bio

ur response is unsatisfacotory to me so im ignoreing u now.

#38 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
kaino12 said:
"ur response is unsatisfacotory to me so im ignoreing u now."
great, ignore me and keep posting things, even though you are absolutely wrong.
#39 Posted by never give up (9636 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"someone tell me what never give up is even talking about"
I proved that gladiator could easily bfr juggernaut before he can even react.
#40 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"someone tell me what never give up is even talking about"
I proved that gladiator could easily bfr juggernaut before he can even react."
amazing.  When did i ever deny that?
#41 Edited by DEADPOOL (2710 posts) - - Show Bio
slimredninja said:
"Actually Gladiators power is described as being what he needs it to be. As long as he believes he can do it  he can. In that same comic where he lifted that building reed richards comments on how the building should have crumbled to bits when gladiator hold it up by one corner like that, but because he beleived he could lift the building without damaging it he did. So in theory if believed he could punch his fist through Juggernaut he could
But here comes a problem: what he believes versus reality, they're opposing forces. But that's not all, the nature of Juggernaut's abilities creates another problem for Gladiator's confidence... magic. Juggernaut is mystically imbued with immense mystical forces, allowing him to fight evenly with even World War Hulk.
It's also the general opinion at Marvel amongst writers that Juggernaut can draw on Cyttorak's nearly limitless mystical energies and become as powerful as he needs to be.

Speaking of nearly limitless mystical energies, Juggernaut is capable of powerful magic, he just isn't a sorcerer so he doesn't know how to utilize his magic. He was once trapped in a mystical dimension where he started to learn magic, but in order to escape he had to forget everything he learned.

Oh, as for punching through Juggernaut, I don't think that means anything. For one thing he's protected from physical attacks by a force-field, and only magic of sufficient strength can pierce it. Evn at that point he's immortal and heals very quickly, thanks to Cyttorak. He was once a walking skeleton, but was no less powerful.
#42 Posted by never give up (9636 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"someone tell me what never give up is even talking about"
I proved that gladiator could easily bfr juggernaut before he can even react."
amazing.  When did i ever deny that?"
Just say he can be bfr I want to see if you can say it.
#43 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"someone tell me what never give up is even talking about"
I proved that gladiator could easily bfr juggernaut before he can even react."
amazing.  When did i ever deny that?"
Just say he can be bfr I want to see if you can say it."
yep, you are totally unable to read.  I. Already. Said. It. Read my earlier posts in this thread.
#44 Posted by never give up (9636 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"someone tell me what never give up is even talking about"
I proved that gladiator could easily bfr juggernaut before he can even react."
amazing.  When did i ever deny that?"
Just say he can be bfr I want to see if you can say it."
yep, you are totally unable to read.  I. Already. Said. It. Read my earlier posts in this thread."
I read it im shocked!
#45 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"someone tell me what never give up is even talking about"
I proved that gladiator could easily bfr juggernaut before he can even react."
amazing.  When did i ever deny that?"
Just say he can be bfr I want to see if you can say it."
yep, you are totally unable to read.  I. Already. Said. It. Read my earlier posts in this thread."
I read it im shocked!"
right.  So why did you waste your time posting all those scans again?
#46 Posted by never give up (9636 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"never give up said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"someone tell me what never give up is even talking about"
I proved that gladiator could easily bfr juggernaut before he can even react."
amazing.  When did i ever deny that?"
Just say he can be bfr I want to see if you can say it."
yep, you are totally unable to read.  I. Already. Said. It. Read my earlier posts in this thread."
I read it im shocked!"
right.  So why did you waste your time posting all those scans again?"
So show people gladiator is not weak and he could easily bfr juggernaut.
#47 Posted by Fresh Prince (5178 posts) - - Show Bio

juggs would win here

#48 Posted by never give up (9636 posts) - - Show Bio
Fresh Prince said:
"juggs would win here"
How he cant even touch him.
#49 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"kaino12 said:
"people seem to not understand what FULL POWERED JUGGERNAUGHT is.
1 hes probably as big as glactus
2 he has pritty much evey power imangable
3 force field is now irrelevent cus his healing facor is so good that he could heal the damage as the blow is delt.
4 his force field is now impenetrable.
5 he says "U ARE A KITTY!!!" and galactus turns into a kitty.
full powered juggs means he has the total power of all 8 gods."
you are wrong on all counts."
Thank u. I just about to tell him or her myself.
#50 Posted by Fresh Prince (5178 posts) - - Show Bio
never give up said:
"Fresh Prince said:
"juggs would win here"
How he cant even touch him."
well glad isn't gonna physically hurt juggs. glad would only win via bfr