#1 Posted by recordkeeper (374 posts) - - Show Bio

JSA
 
HawkMan w/Claw of Horus(Orb of Rao also merged w/Gauntlet) 
Dr.Fate (Hall) 
Sentinal 
Obsidian(FullPower)  
E2 SuperMan
Captain Marvel 
BlackAdam 
Power Girl  
HourMan (A.I.) w/fragment of worlogog 
Sand   
BrainWave Jr
 
Vs 
  
Defenders
 
Classic Dr.Strange 
Current SilverSurfer 
WWHulk  
HellStorm
Namor 
Valkyrie w/Belt of strengh 
Current DarkHawk
GhostRider 
Moondragon 
Doctor Druid 
 
 
ALL OUT WAR! WHo survives?

#2 Posted by YoungThriller (746 posts) - - Show Bio

Defenders,Classic dr.strange,silver surfer,and ghost rider are to much.

#3 Posted by recordkeeper (374 posts) - - Show Bio
@YoungThriller said:
Defenders,Classic dr.strange,silver surfer,and ghost rider are to much.

I don't know. Hall could possible beat any of them. Obsidian most likely is going to take over some of Defenders also.
#4 Edited by AtheneOwnsYou (119 posts) - - Show Bio
@YoungThriller said:

Defenders,Classic dr.strange,silver surfer,and ghost rider are to much.

I don't think SS is too much.... Not sure how they would defeat Ghost rider or classic strange tho.
#5 Posted by higher_evolutionary (2016 posts) - - Show Bio

defenders

#6 Posted by beatboks1 (7321 posts) - - Show Bio

Hector Hall Fate is no match for Classic Strange. Classic Fate was roughlt Classic Stranges Equal, the Straus Fate was the next in power level then Hall
Current Surfer should be too much for  Sentinal
WWHulk should take Kal-L
The Son of Satan's evil power would drive Obsidian mad and over the edge. 
 
The rest really doesn't matter.
 
This is coming from the biggest Alan Scot fan and one of the five biggest fans of Dr Fate on CV
 
By the way neither team has ever served together on the respective team together.

#7 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio
@YoungThriller said:
Defenders,Classic dr.strange,silver surfer,and ghost rider are to much.
#8 Posted by Needlebay (1941 posts) - - Show Bio

lol! Hourman with a portion of the Worlogog stopped the BIG BANG! He could likely solo most of the Defenders lineup. And on top of that, you have Fate and Sentinel. JSA ftw.

#9 Posted by Moonman78 (1726 posts) - - Show Bio

Classic strange, Surfer, and moondragon, get the win for the defenders, wwh is the best brick here, it can be close but classic fate and surfer are overwhelming.

#10 Posted by beatboks1 (7321 posts) - - Show Bio

Classic strange, Surfer, and moondragon, get the win for the defenders, wwh is the best brick here, it can be close but classic fate and surfer are overwhelming.

So is classic Fate ( who isn't here) or classic Strange the problem ?? :D

Moondragon is completely inconsequential. Brainwave Jr is telepathically more powerful than her. I mere aspect of his psyche defeated Maxima in telepathic combat. He was able to breach the magic protection Black Adam has to telepathy when even Martian Manhunter can't. Plus he telepathically defeated the Ultra Humanite. Ultra has defeated BW Snr ( who could TP command the Spectre and take on the entire JSA including Classic Fate), telepathically control several heroes from another dimension ( including three who had TP resistance), and also telepathically defeated teh combined minds of MMH, Hector Hammond, Grodd, and several others.

Surfers displays of late are back to what they once were so he's only on a par with sentinel now as his showings got better in the last year and a half on pre 52 DC by a LOT.

Also having now read a little more of the Hector era of Dr Fate, I was wrong. he is above not below the Straus fate in power. Classic Fate was about Classic Strange's equal in MAGIC power. What made him more powerful was that on top of that he also had physical powers close to Superman level, and energy manip close to Captain Atom level. The Hector Fate had magic very close to Classic Level.

I don't know if the OP was edited but I don't remember seeing Hourman with worlogog the first time. That makes it way unfair as he could solo. He can simply devolve all the defenders to a point in their timeline when they were their weakest. he could turn the clock back for Strange and make him just the surgeon before he learned magic. He could make SS Rand back on his home planet before Galactus cam for it, or Hulk Bruce Banner before any incident with gamma radiation, or Blaze before he made the deal that made him Ghost rider.

#11 Edited by WaveMotionCannon (5540 posts) - - Show Bio

defenders

#12 Posted by Saren (25903 posts) - - Show Bio

This is really just going to be Classic Strange vs Hourman.

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#13 Edited by Perethorn (3449 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer, Strange and Ghost Rider could take down all DC team by themselves.

#14 Posted by Saren (25903 posts) - - Show Bio

Hourman solos.

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#15 Posted by TDK_1997 (14991 posts) - - Show Bio

JSA wins.

#16 Posted by theONEtaichou (1554 posts) - - Show Bio

Hourman... with worlogog (fragment)... yeah umm JSA

good day

#17 Edited by comic_book_fan (5729 posts) - - Show Bio

the defenders.

#18 Edited by Moonman78 (1726 posts) - - Show Bio

@beatboks1:

Surfer only has one poor showing as of recent, the one against Rulk, other than that he has come off looking like a real beast as of late. Classic fate does have the versatility over strange but as strong as classic fate was classic stranges average and max showings prove his magic is stronger, and hector fate is no where near classic fate levels. Jr is a beast tp wise possibly better than moondragon but not that much better, and she beats him in fighting skill and versatility, hourman could cause problems if it were not for surfer being here

#19 Posted by SHARKBEARAGATOR (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

Hourman stomps the Defenders.

/thread

#20 Posted by dondave (38586 posts) - - Show Bio

JSA

#21 Posted by beatboks1 (7321 posts) - - Show Bio

@moonman78: Classic Strange and Classic Fate are borderline equal in magic. The thing is Hector isn't far behind classic. He's defeated Mordru in battle a few times. Most of them were actually when Mordru was amped in power. The same Mordru has defeated an amped Shazam when he himself was at a low level of power. He has defeated Nabu and he was able to steal half the power of DC Eternity rip off. Plus Mordru actually one shotted Classic Fate when he'd been powered up by both Hal Jordan a d Alan Scot

In the last few years Alan has been shown as more powerful ( and that's not just the star hears possessed stuff ). For example he's been shown to time manipulate himself and do just about everything SS can.

#22 Edited by lol (5388 posts) - - Show Bio
JSA