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#1 Posted by WillPayton (9726 posts) - - Show Bio

Galactus is coming to DC Earth. He's mildly hungry, but not starving. Only the JSA are around to try to stop him, but they have a full team all in their classic Pre-52 versions. Can they save the Earth?

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Team (everyone in the pic, standard/classic pre-52 versions) versus Galactus (somewhat hungry).

The Team knows they have to win, at any cost, so they are basically bloodlusted and going for a kill.

Who wins, and how?

#2 Posted by Beware_My_Power (3019 posts) - - Show Bio

Alan and Fate are the only factors in the JSA... wait... I can't really see who's in that pic

#3 Posted by reaverlation (16999 posts) - - Show Bio

Galactus

#4 Edited by Beware_My_Power (3019 posts) - - Show Bio
#5 Posted by dondave (38821 posts) - - Show Bio

It's really up to Hall and Scott

#6 Posted by WillPayton (9726 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

It's really up to Hall and Scott

What about Thunderbolt?

#7 Edited by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

JSA! Also is there prep cause if so Terrific could create a black hole and bfr Galactus or something like that or even something similar to the ultimate nulifier

#8 Posted by Experio (16968 posts) - - Show Bio

Planet gets eaten.

#9 Posted by WillPayton (9726 posts) - - Show Bio

@mikep12 said:

JSA! Also is there prep cause if so Terrific could create a black hole and bfr Galactus or something like that or even something similar to the ultimate nulifier

They can have like 10 or 15 minutes, but no more than that. Basically they see Galactus coming and within 15 minutes he's there near Earth.

#10 Posted by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

@willpayton: They still win. Dr.Fate will cause massive problems with Galactus low magic defense. Plus the heavy hitters should be fully capable of harming him and distracting him while Terrific makes something. Also before you bring up beating mephisto in his own realm or something I consider those pis and DC magic tends to be stronger than that of Marvel due to there universe being more centered around it.

#11 Posted by WillPayton (9726 posts) - - Show Bio

@mikep12 said:

@willpayton: They still win. Dr.Fate will cause massive problems with Galactus low magic defense. Plus the heavy hitters should be fully capable of harming him and distracting him while Terrific makes something. Also before you bring up beating mephisto in his own realm or something I consider those pis and DC magic tends to be stronger than that of Marvel due to there universe being more centered around it.

There IS quite a bit of magical power in this team... Dr Fate, Alan, Thunderbolt... not to mention the magic-powered Captain Marvel and Black Adam. I wonder if there's any team in DC or Marvel that could stand up to them.

#12 Posted by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

@willpayton: Forgot about Thunderbolt and the others. The team should win

#13 Edited by Eisenfauste (8682 posts) - - Show Bio

wanna go with team, galactus isn't at full power here.

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#14 Posted by DeathandGrim (2074 posts) - - Show Bio

Question: How does Galactus usually get stopped?

#15 Edited by HeraldofGanthet (3671 posts) - - Show Bio

@willpayton:

OH MY GAWD!!!! Is that a bloodlusted Jakeem Thunder AND Alan Scott AND Dr. Fate?!? Aw man... I mean Galactus is awesome and all, but he's been dropped by WAY less than that, mon ami!

JSA. FTW.

#16 Edited by Wardemon32 (4399 posts) - - Show Bio

Aren't like all IMPs more powerful than Galactus?

#17 Posted by SoopahSoup (85 posts) - - Show Bio

Team because of ridiculous amounts of magic probably

#18 Posted by cosmicallyaware1 (4615 posts) - - Show Bio

Aren't like all IMPs more powerful than Galactus?

Not quite. But they are very powerful albiet with pesky limitations. Such as the thunderbolt being bound by its weilders wishes and not being able to kill.

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#19 Posted by PhantomLantern8 (526 posts) - - Show Bio

@mikep12 said:

@willpayton: They still win. Dr.Fate will cause massive problems with Galactus low magic defense. Plus the heavy hitters should be fully capable of harming him and distracting him while Terrific makes something. Also before you bring up beating mephisto in his own realm or something I consider those pis and DC magic tends to be stronger than that of Marvel due to there universe being more centered around it.

Basically this, the JSA is a perfect combo to put the pounding on Galactus.

#20 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

Galactus stomps effortlessly, mismatch.

#21 Posted by WillPayton (9726 posts) - - Show Bio

@mikep12 said:

@willpayton: They still win. Dr.Fate will cause massive problems with Galactus low magic defense. Plus the heavy hitters should be fully capable of harming him and distracting him while Terrific makes something. Also before you bring up beating mephisto in his own realm or something I consider those pis and DC magic tends to be stronger than that of Marvel due to there universe being more centered around it.

Basically this, the JSA is a perfect combo to put the pounding on Galactus.

Galactus stomps effortlessly, mismatch.

Hmm...

#22 Edited by Beware_My_Power (3019 posts) - - Show Bio

@carter_esque: yeah, soloing DC Earth isn't much of a feat compared to what Big G has done

#23 Posted by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

@beware_my_power: What has he done? Do any of them involve beating 5th dimensional imps and high end magic users

#24 Edited by mjolnirson (1533 posts) - - Show Bio

thanks you kill us >:c galactus.

#25 Edited by BlackLegRaph (867 posts) - - Show Bio

The Thunderbolt solos.

#26 Posted by DeathandGrim (2074 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually think the team can beat him back

Galactus stomps effortlessly, mismatch.

#27 Posted by Beware_My_Power (3019 posts) - - Show Bio

@mikep12: sarcasm :/

And Alan took on a 5th dimensional Imp???!!! What issue is this???!!! Or at least provide a scan please!

#28 Edited by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

@beware_my_power: Where did I say that? I said they have a 5d imp on the team thunderbolt

#29 Posted by Beware_My_Power (3019 posts) - - Show Bio

@mikep12: lol sorry, I was talking about scott, I though you were carrying on the conversation

#30 Posted by Iragexcudder (5415 posts) - - Show Bio

I want to see scans referring to how theJSA even comes close to hurting Galactus.

Please don't show me scans of Thor hitting Galactus or Thanos catching him off guard.

Alan Scott Starheart is herald+ but much lower than Celestial, of which Galactus is. and Dr Fate needs prep to win.

So if anyone would show me how the team wins, that'd be great

#31 Posted by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

@iragexcudder: You don't need scans when you can look it up. The JSA are fully capable of bringing him down and I already explained this above plus they have a 5d imp to help out. They win after a hard fight especially against a not fully fed Galactus

#32 Posted by SupremeHyperion (1542 posts) - - Show Bio

Galactus would make Black Adam and Atom Smasher his Heralds and then the three of them would destroy any and all worlds lol (maybe)

#33 Edited by Cold_Day (53 posts) - - Show Bio

@iragexcudder: galactus is not celestial level if he's hungry. dr fate can do many things against big G too, who is weak against magic, as can thunderbolt

#34 Edited by Iragexcudder (5415 posts) - - Show Bio

@mikep12: no you need scans. The JSA are not at all capable of doing so especially without prep.

Noted, they're bloodlusted. And even if prep was given, the fact that they're Bloodlusted cancels out any sort of thought given to the opponent because they're mind is off basic instinct of killing, which won't happen.

And a moderately fed Galactus is still as powerful as a fully fed Galactus. There is no proof stating that Galactus is any stronger or weaker when he's 100% fully fed.

Galactus ROFLstomps on all dimensions

#35 Edited by Iragexcudder (5415 posts) - - Show Bio

@cold_day: scans scans scans. All I'm seeing are opinions

#36 Posted by Beware_My_Power (3019 posts) - - Show Bio

@iragexcudder: That's how you debate: SCANS... there are some rare occations where a character wins by common sense like superman prime one million vs arm fall off boy. SMP1M may be a featless mess, but on paper he annihilates effortlessly...

#37 Posted by Cold_Day (53 posts) - - Show Bio

@iragexcudder: and all i see is a guy who refused to acknowledge anything, falsely think that he is on par with a celestial, and did not show anything himself.

#38 Posted by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

@iragexcudder: You haven't shown scans either and I know what galactic is capable of but you clearly don't know what the teams capable of. That's why I said look them up. And before you bring up galaxy busting galactus is here to eat the planet not destroy it. What stopping Mr. Terrific from making a machine to drain his power or a black hole producer all thing's he's capable of. Btw even if I wanted to but I'm on my tab the moment

#39 Posted by Iragexcudder (5415 posts) - - Show Bio

@cold_day: i refuse to acknowledge anything? I like being proved wrong, and you're just stating opinions nonetheless rather than giving me solid evidence why a character would beat another. Who's the one not acknowledging anything again?

@beware_my_power: well yeah obviously, but why is it so hard to give actual reasoning with scans showing how to defeat someone?

Galactus is equal force to Death, Oblivion, Infinity and Eternity, alone representing equity while Death/Oblivion represent vengeance and Eternity/Infinity are necessity. His equal status with these beings is seen here when he discusses with Death on equal terms, stating that she is her "Sister, Daughter, Mother and my Wife". Death also states that Galactus's role in the universe is perhaps the most important, and likewise calls him "My Husband and Father, my Brother and my Son" and says "Are we not two corners of that great triangle that is universe?". And Galactus's insane age is stated here again, as he says "I am older then the oldest star that burns, older then the universe itself."

----- FANTASTIC FOUR v1 #257 -----

You were saying?

Galactus is again stated to be the "Brother of Eternity and Death".

--THANOS #3--

So yes, he is on par with Celestials:)

#40 Posted by Killemall (18640 posts) - - Show Bio

I will try and post few scans when I get home but where is this notion that Galactus is weak against magic coming from ??

Odin , Mephisto, Agamatto have all found then unable to do anything against Galactus you don't get more magic oriented than that.

#41 Posted by Iragexcudder (5415 posts) - - Show Bio

@mikep12: I'm not as bias as you think. You've stated that Galactus is weak against magic? That right there shows you have no idea what you're talking about. You're known to be DC bias, I know this, so does everyone else.. But when you just blatantly state that someone can win and then say "go look them up" when I clearly know each of these characters, is ridiculous and unneeded. I know you know what you're talking about but thinking a team of planetary can beat a Celestial without Prep is just ridiculous.

#42 Posted by Beware_My_Power (3019 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall: yeah... I have no idea where they pulled that from...

#43 Posted by Beware_My_Power (3019 posts) - - Show Bio

@iragexcudder: just to be clear hungry galan=celestial<<<<<<eternity?

#44 Posted by Iragexcudder (5415 posts) - - Show Bio
#45 Posted by Beware_My_Power (3019 posts) - - Show Bio
#46 Edited by Iragexcudder (5415 posts) - - Show Bio

@beware_my_power: there is no proof stating he's any less or more powerful when he's hungry or not

#47 Edited by Beware_My_Power (3019 posts) - - Show Bio
#48 Edited by Iragexcudder (5415 posts) - - Show Bio

@beware_my_power: eh, not really it brings more people in.. Starts more debates lol

#49 Edited by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

@iragexcudder: Nowhere did I say you were bias and no one calls me that either. This is bias. "Superman wins cause he's my favorite superhero and Galactus is a stupid name". That's bias. I haven't shown any form of bias so please don't call me that or put words in my mouth. Just cause something is stated doesn't mean anything especially when that being has had problems with far weaker beings that anyone you've mentioned such as eternity or oblivion. Also can you show a hungry galactus fighting a celestial? I never said he was weak to magic he just doesn't have the best defense against it just like superman who most people think he's weak to magic he's just vunerable. Also can you show me a durability feat for Galan or anything suggesting he can take on multiple high end magic users at the same time. Will said they have 15 minutes of prep and while it might not seem like a lot with all or terrifics t-bots and Dr.Fate looking up magic spells they could definitely do something.

#50 Posted by Iragexcudder (5415 posts) - - Show Bio

@mikep12: didn't mean to offend you.

@willpayton: They still win. Dr.Fate will cause massive problems with Galactus low magic defense. Plus the heavy hitters should be fully capable of harming him and distracting him while Terrific makes something. Also before you bring up beating mephisto in his own realm or something I consider those pis and DC magic tends to be stronger than that of Marvel due to there universe being more centered around it.

You said the low magic defense.

I'm on my phone so I can't really show you anything. Galactus has been triumphed by weaker beings but that was with prep.

If there is prep in this fight, then yes.. Mr Terrific can think of something and Fate can indefinitely do something.. But there aren't.

Sorry for my comments dude