Ohhh, ok. I guess Vulcan bullet don't make the cut. Do you know what does make the cut thought? Vulcan missiles, machine gun fire, and basically every single one of Cole's attacks. You act as if he is untouchable, when in reality, he has low-level bullet timing feats. He cannot react to lighting attacks, so say goodbye to that idea. Cole can fry him within mere seconds.
Vulcan missles? Machine gun fire? Ha!
You obviously don't know what the bracelets can do. For one, it can block omega beams and heat vision:
Oh, and for your "lightning" theory...
Azrael survived being struck by lightning. I don't think lightning will be a problem:
Vulcan missiles and machine gun fire are completely out of the question. You have shown me that he can react fast enough to block one or two bullets with an extremely thick bracelet. You act like he is the be all, end all of speed, when in reality, he is somewhat comparable to Batman. Wonder Woman's bracelets only allow him to block a small area, he certainly cannot react to sprayed machine gun fire. Vulcan missile blasts wil kill him on impact, just as the blast KO'ed Firestorm and Starfire, both are wayyyyyy more durable.
Machine gun fire, or Vulcan missiles, and It's game over for the not-as-fast-as-you-are-making-him-out-to-be Azreal.
Hm, he actually has reacted to machine gun fire:
I'm still confused. Is he trying to fight Slade? or getting fried by Cole before he has a chance to shoot him? You haven't clarified that yet.
He doesn't need to h2h fight Slade if he has the Ring. He can just destroy Slade.
This would be helpful against someone that utilizes weak energy attacks. Unfortunately for Azreal, when Cole lets loose, he hits with the approximate force of a nuclear missile. So, he gets fired none the less. As i have said already, he killed a being that tanked a missile that levelled 3 apartment buildings in one attack.
Well, Azrael can easily just block it
You see, this is how the bracelets work. Wonder Woman needs to cross her arms and there's a "magic shield" protecting her. Literally. It's indestructible, especially to your "power of nuclear missiles" attacks, and Cole's electricity.
No, it isn't the feats don't stack up. However, i have already stated that, if Connor Hawke is one of the 30 best martial artists in DC, he loses. Prometheus has his skill, along with 30 others already downloaded. If he isn't top 30, he loses regardless.
This doesn't necessarily means he has the physical stats to be on par with Connor. This is the same as the Taskmaster vs Azrael debate; Taskmaster may be a good martial artist, but it doesn't mean he can keep up with Azrael. This is how Azrael defeats people like Batman; his physical stats.
Therefore, all because Prometheus might have the skill to take on Connor, doesn't necessarily mean he can keep up with Connor.
That is a completely false statement. In a serious fight, Dick couldn't land a single hit on Bruce. He has been portrayed as more skilled... always. As for the Shiva fight, it is irrelevant for three reasons. One: He didn't beat Shiva, he merely held his own. Two: Bruce has beaten, and stalemated Shiva before. Three: Connor put up a fight against Shiva. Prometheus stomped her in 3 moves.
I think you didn't understood what i said.
Dick was implying that Batman couldn't do what Connor did, not that he is better than Bruce.
And it IS relevant for 3 reasons:
- Holding his own against the greatest martial artist in the world is a GREAT feat
- As far as i know, Batman has not beaten Shiva. Show me the scan.
- That wasn't Prometheus, and he was using technology.
I am talking about PURE martial art skill.
Despite all of this. He is constantly being portrayed as Batman's inferior, or his equal.
I've already posted scans of him defeating Batman, because of his physicals. Showing me a scan of a small scruffle, isn't very reliable.
He is not at all equal to Batman, his strength is much greater:
Taking on Nightwing, Robin, and Batman all at once. Yup, definitely not the same stats as Batman.
I have already stated that he can't block a lot of what my team has to offer, He isn't as fast as you are making him out to be. I do have an answer for a ring that can blow up mountains. Cole's electric pulse allows him to identify his targets before Azreal can even see him. Cole can hit him long before he is in range to use that ring that you rely so heavily upon.
Those showings weren't that long ranged at all.
Also, the bracelets act as a shield when she crosses her arms. That means Azrael can cross his arms and block a large mass, including the electricity.
Cole can magnify his vision. He can pick Azreal off before Azreal can even see him.
Pick him off? Azrael is going to tank your shots. I garuntee you Cole is not going to automatically do a full-scale attack on Azrael. He's going to do a simple electric shock, and when Azrael gets hit with that he will instantly know he's being attacked and anticipate further attacks/get out of the way. He can then use his battlefield knowledge and make his way to Cole and take him out with the ring.
Stay at a range all you like. You'll have to deal with Vulcan missiles, bullets, machine gun fire, electrical attacks that his with a Nuke's force, etc. Your explosive arrows look pitiful compared to my team's ranged game.
First of all, why would Prometheus automatically shoot him with the force of a nuke? This is in-character.
And when Connor finds out that Prometheus is all about tech, he simply shoots Prometheus with an EMP arrow, following with an explosive arrow. And before you say "ohh Prometheus just dodges the arrows," it doesn't work like that. EMP arrows will disable the radius. Unless you can run 50 meters away in less than a second, Prometheus's tech gets taken out.
Tell me how this stops her from getting fried?
Maybe because she's insanely fast and she will know how to maneuver across the map. This means going on top of buildings, etc.
He is a low-level bullet timer at best. Have fun with the plethora of things that he can't block.
Not a low-level "bullet timer" at all. He can deflect everything you throw at him.
He is going to tank your lightning attacks. And no, Cole is not going to hit him with the force of a nuke right when he sees Azrael. This is not in character at all.
And again, i will show you how the bracelets work. When WW crosses her arms, a shield comes up. This means she can block large masses.
Wonder Woman has used her bracelets to deflect God-level lightning that destroyed olympus (i've posted the scan above). I'm sure it can withstand Cole's electricity.
And again...
You have no defense for the Flame Blast ring. He will easily one-shot your team.
And to remind you:
- Prometheus's tech gets taken out with an EMP arrow
- DS gets taken out with an easy flame blast
- Azrael deflects Cole's electricity (note, the bracelets can deflect god-leveled lightning, omega beams, etc)
- Cole gets taken out by Flame Blast.
Some other details:
- Azrael's physicals are greater than Batman
- Nightwing didn't say he's better than Bruce, he said Connor is
- Your showing with Shiva did not prove anything; it wasn't Prometheus & he used tech (Which can easily get EMP'd)
- Show me where Batman defeated Shiva in h2h combat...
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