Joker vs. Lelouch

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#2  Edited By Crom-Cruach

Does Joker know who he's dealing with?

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Joker

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@Crom-Cruach:  
Dont Necessarily think that matters when it comes to the ultimate Wildcard that is The Joker...
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#5  Edited By Crom-Cruach
@Rothschild: I think it might, Lelouch, much as I find him annoying has mind control powers. If Joker knows this, then he'll beat Lelouch easy, if not, he might get mind controlled into suicide like we saw in the first episode, depending on how strong Lelouch's mind control is.
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@Crom-Cruach:  
HAs mind control been shown to work on the Joker though ? As twisted as his mind is, ive only seen him any type of Sanity or under control when he was in the Lazurus pit 
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#7  Edited By Crom-Cruach
@Rothschild:  Yes, MM has for example, in addition to giving him temporary sanity. Not all telepaths are strong enough, but some definitively are. Thing is with Lelouch is we don't have any other telepaths in his respective universe to be exactly sure how strong he himself is as a telepath since he's only mind controlled humans.
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@Crom-Cruach:  
yeah a refernce character would def help... I'm just thinking that for example Professor X has shown to be blocked out by some minds with initial attacks, and knowing this ive always felt X would have trouble with the Jokers mind
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@Rothschild:  I can't really comment with proper knowledge truth be told on Prof X. It's been too long since I've looked at his feats. I think he could be strong enough to mind control the Joker, but I fully admit that I might be wrong.
 
Now, I like manga and anime but...
Problem with anime's and manga is the art, scope, setting and tone tend to really mislead a lot readers as to how powerful the protagonists really are.
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#10  Edited By MonsterObsessor

I think Joker might have won. You see, because he is insane, he'll be immune to Lelouch's mind control.

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#11  Edited By Decoy Elite
@MonsterObsessor said:
" I think Joker might have won. You see, because he is insane, he'll be immune to Lelouch's mind control. "
Has insanity been shown to counter Lelouch's mind control before?
Also, what gear they have, the location, and prep would have a big effect on the battle.
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Joker

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@D3athstroke said:
" Joker "
How? I honestly don't know how Joker wins. There's not nearly enough info to pick a winner in this battle, I mean what if Lelouch gets one of those giant gundum things from his show? What if the Joker doesn't have prep? What if Lelouch can mind control the Joker? There's too many variables being ignored here.
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#14  Edited By MonsterObsessor
@Decoy Elite said:
" @MonsterObsessor said:
" I think Joker might have won. You see, because he is insane, he'll be immune to Lelouch's mind control. "
Has insanity been shown to counter Lelouch's mind control before? Also, what gear they have, the location, and prep would have a big effect on the battle. "
Now look at the pictures.
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#15  Edited By Decoy Elite
@MonsterObsessor said:
" @Decoy Elite said:
" @MonsterObsessor said:
" I think Joker might have won. You see, because he is insane, he'll be immune to Lelouch's mind control. "
Has insanity been shown to counter Lelouch's mind control before? Also, what gear they have, the location, and prep would have a big effect on the battle. "
Now look at the pictures. "
That doesn't answer my question at all.
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#16  Edited By D3athstroke
@Decoy Elite said:
" @D3athstroke said:
" Joker "
How? 

He will Shoot him
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#17  Edited By Decoy Elite

@D3athstroke:
1. I love how you completely ignore the rest of my post. 
2. It seems(based on the pics) that Lelouch has a gun too, so he can shoot the Joker.
3. There is no evidence that Lelouch can't just mind control the Joker into killing himself. 

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@D3athstroke: 1. I love how you completely ignore the rest of my post.

Because on pictures Are no Mecha robots And For Mind control Lelouch Needs To Speak Joker Needs Only To Shoot Him
And no Lelouch can't Shoot him because he will try to use Geas On Joker and Die or Joker Will Just Shoot Him Fists Because he has more Experience (sorry if spelled wrong..)
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@D3athstroke: There is no evidence that being insane can keep someone from being mind controlled by Lelouch. 
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#20  Edited By MonsterObsessor
@Decoy Elite said:
" @MonsterObsessor said:
" @Decoy Elite said:
" @MonsterObsessor said:
" I think Joker might have won. You see, because he is insane, he'll be immune to Lelouch's mind control. "
Has insanity been shown to counter Lelouch's mind control before? Also, what gear they have, the location, and prep would have a big effect on the battle. "
Now look at the pictures. "
That doesn't answer my question at all. "
Since you put it that way...
Round 1: the pictures from above.
Round 2:
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Round 3: Unarmed combat
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Round 1: Lelouch
Not entirely sure how good a shot Lelouch is, but it doesn't matter. If they are pointing guns at eachother Lelouch will just hax his mind with Geass and have him shoot himself in the head. 
Round 2: Lelouch  
Has made a name for himself being rediculously good at chess the entire series. Not to mention took over the world with said brain smarts. 
Round 3: Lelouch 
Geass hacks the Joker to sit there and take a beating. 
 
Lelouch clean sweep, all it takes is a look for him to have you do exactly what he wants you to do. 
  

  
 2:45 his first use of the damn thing. 
   
  
Some time later in the series he's mind !@#$ing the Gods of said world with it, mercilously killing his Father and Mother.
 
He then moves to take his Father's Throne:  
  
   
Proceedes to take over the world, make the people hate him and then have himself killed to bring Peace all for his little sister with a lot of planning and manipulating.  
Lelouch curbstomp. Better at prep and packs a hax ability.
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JOKER

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#24  Edited By MonsterObsessor
@Hellos said:

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Round 1: Lelouch
Not entirely sure how good a shot Lelouch is, but it doesn't matter. If they are pointing guns at eachother Lelouch will just hax his mind with Geass and have him shoot himself in the head. 
Round 2: Lelouch  
Has made a name for himself being rediculously good at chess the entire series. Not to mention took over the world with said brain smarts. 
Round 3: Lelouch 
Geass hacks the Joker to sit there and take a beating. 
 
Lelouch clean sweep, all it takes is a look for him to have you do exactly what he wants you to do. 
  

  
 2:45 his first use of the damn thing. 
   
  
Some time later in the series he's mind !@#$ing the Gods of said world with it, mercilously killing his Father and Mother.
 
He then moves to take his Father's Throne:  
  
   Proceedes to take over the world, make the people hate him and then have himself killed to bring Peace all for his little sister with a lot of planning and manipulating.  Lelouch curbstomp. Better at prep and packs a hax ability. "
I gotta say that if he can beat Joker, then Lelouch is just like my favorite comic hero, Batman.
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Lelouch. But i like the Joker better.

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Sorry to bump another old thread, but there is NOTHING in Code Geass even implying that Geass wouldn't work on insane people. In fact, it specifically states that everyone will eventually succumb to it. Lelouch even used Geass on God, who pretty much was mindless.

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FYI lelouch's geass is not mind control , it's just 1 ultimate godlike order that no one can disobey so lulu wins.

But I love joker more than lulu

Especially his reasoning."chuckles".

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#28 JediXMan  Moderator

Lelouch should stomp this in a straight fight due to his Geass. He would make Joker his slave the second they made eye contact; the TC does not specify distance or location, so they are literally starting the fight staring at each other.

I'm locking this for now due to unfairness. If somebody has a problem with this, PM me.