Joker (Nicholson) vs Joker (Ledger)

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#1  Edited By frozen  Moderator

Ledger

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  • Both have 1 and a half weeks of prep
  • Takes place in Gotham
  • Both are plotting to kill each other, can gain whatever means necessary
  • To the death

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Nicholson.

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#3  Edited By zaied

Probably Jack. He had access to a variety of weapons and gadgets Ledger would have no answer for. I don't see prep making that big of a difference due to the resources Jack could play with in that amount of time.

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Ledger

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Jack.

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Ledger, easily.

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Ledger easily he has better prep feats

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The issue is that they were completely different Joker's.

Nicholson was the more campy tv show style Joker, and Ledger was more the dark, psychotic Joker.

Ledger's Joker was much more dangerous, and intelligent. However they were both accurate to the Joker at the time.

Ledger wins.

P.S. Ledger pulled off the best performance I have ever seen in a comic movie. However Jack is in the top 3 greatest actors alive.

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#10  Edited By Albertphytagoras

Quality: Ledger stomps!

Battle: Ledger hands down...

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#11 frozen  Moderator

Reasons?

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daniel day lewis needs to play the joker.

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@frozen said:
@frozen said:

Reasons?

Because Jack, despite his goofy over-the-top weaponry, never displayed any impressive prep feats to my knowledge.

Ledger, on the other hand, was consistently one step ahead of Batman for the majority of the movie. He would do more with his prep.

And if it came to H2H (which it probably won't) neither are spectacular, but Ledger would still take the cake IMO.

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Jack Nicholson's Joker was a lot closer to the comic version. He had all the nice toys and tricks. He'll win.

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In the prep department it's Ledger's game. If you look a little closer at DK, you might realize how large chunks of the movie is something the Joker planned in advance.

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#19  Edited By MrUnsmiley

In a straight up fight, it could go either way. Ledger's Joker can hold his own in a fight (he overpowered the police officer that he baited into fighting him), but he doesn't use guns often. Jack's Joker usually does.

When it comes to prep, though, Ledger's Joker stomps.

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Laughing gas FTW.

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#21  Edited By frozen  Moderator

@mrunsmiley: Ledger ambiguously overpowered a fat police officer and Nicholson did nothing H2H wise (that I can remember). There is nothing to argue in regards to H2H. Both were not notable.

Though in terms of weapons, Nicholson had a lot of goofy gadgets.

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It seemed like Nicholson had access to more resources than Ledger.

I think he could out-prep him.

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could go either way

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#24  Edited By nerdchore

There is no way ledger out preps nicholson. Nicholson showed a variety of smarts with chemical weapons. Managed to turn gotham into his bitch with smilex and got them all begging him for money.

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@frozen said:
@frozen said:

Reasons?

Ledger's Joker was prepped for every contingency he ever encountered. He manipulated Gotham's finest including Harvey. He manipulated the mob. So on and so forth. His preparation was actually well displayed for a film that was meant to be more realistic than comic bookie.

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Nicholson kills the philosophical hobo.

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Jack. Ledger doesn't have a number one guy.

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@oscuro: yoooooou ahhhareee myy nuummbeeerr onnneww aahhhhguy

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@oscuro: right. I like when he fries the guy with the hand buzzer and then says" antoine got a little hit under the collar"

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@nerdchore: yeah I love that movie and could quote it all day.

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Ledger's Joker actually seemed competent in planning a strategy, and showed at least some knowledge of how to hurt someone. Nicholson's Joker had bigger plans, but honestly they were very bad plans. Jack also never really showed any skills at fighting at all, all he really did was get beat on a laugh.

Ledger's Joker could easily kill someone, either with a knife or by coming up with a complex plan, Jack didn't really.

@oscuro: yoooooou ahhhareee myy nuummbeeerr onnneww aahhhhguy

Jack ad-libbed that line to make a joke about the way Palance talks.

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#33  Edited By Homer_X

Hmm interesting but it can go both ways, so I'm split 50/50 here

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@misterwhisper:

I agree with this but jack isn't top 3 more loike top 50

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@sasukemilesmorales said:

@misterwhisper:

I agree with this but jack isn't top 3 more loike top 50

His 59 acting award wins including 70 nominations for best actor disagrees with you.

I assume you are not old enough to remember most of his movies.

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#40  Edited By frozen  Moderator

@koshi_waza88: Ledger was not really that realistic. The real mob would have instantly killed him, he essentially manipulated the criminal under-world, police force and turned a city into chaos. Half the city were on two ferries and he was prepared to blow them up.

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@frozen: He has way better prep feats, like setting explosives in a farrier filled national guards

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#42  Edited By comicace3

Ledger. But this is a good Battle, seeing as though the Old Joker is much more Chemical based. The new joker is all about guns, bombs, and intimidation and he had Gotham scared AF. He could even use mind games.

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In just fighting each other? Jack

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#44  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator

I'd say Ledger. That school bus coordination, hospital blowup and what he did with the two ships were pretty impressive. More so than throwing a parade or vandilizing a museum while listening to bad music.

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Bump.

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#47  Edited By frozen  Moderator

I'd say Ledger. That school bus coordination, hospital blowup and what he did with the two ships were pretty impressive. More so than throwing a parade or vandilizing a museum while listening to bad music.

Prince makes bad music???

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Ledger.. better prep. A lot crazier. One better H2H feat.

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Jack Nicholson has much better resources, and can manage to get his hands on EXPERIMENTAL MILITARY WEAPONS. He also already has the Gotham mob at his disposal, unlike Ledger, who had to manipulate it into serving him. Nicholson has a big advantage here.