Joker/Jim Gordon (Nolan) vs Kick Ass/Black Death (Movie)

• Round 1: Just hand to hand.
• Round 2: Joker gets his knifes and his crow bar. Jim Gordon gets an empty handgun (which his opponents know). Kick Ass gets his batons and Black Death gets his bat.
• No moral.
• Battle takes place in Abandoned Place.

Joker kills everyone, including Gordon, and then takes a cop car for a joyride

Kick Ass team each round.

TDK team could possible take it round 2, though. A good kick is all Joker needs to take someone out of the fight. It wouldn't happen suddenly, but a stab to the stomach, thigh, calf, etc. could affect Kick-Ass or Black Death tremendously. It'd be harder to stab Kick-Ass though, if he had his armor.

Gordon has no h2h feats, so he's pretty much useless

joker has a probable background in the military/black ops

@uft: nice complete assumption.

Team KA

not an assumption when theres ample evidence and is an accepted theory

BUMP

I have nothing to say here except the plural for knife is knives, not knifes.

Nolan Gordon? Then team 2 stomps.

The point of the Joker's unknown origin is that we don't know his history. Besides, theories aren't substitutes for feats, even if some people accepted them. I also find it hard to believe hardly anyone at all would accept this.

Team Kick Ass

Considering Gordon would get taken out fast, and the Joker wasn't some master martial artist either.

The team that has actual combat feats wins. There should be a rule against making battles with featless and/or nigh-featless characters..