Joker (BatMan 1989) vs Joker (BatMan:The Dark Knight)

Which Joker is more sadistic,gruesome,carnage and genocidal.who will win in a battle?

Using both film versions of both characters

Rules:

• Hand to hand and mili weapon combat
• Both equipped with All Gadgets,Weapons,Vehicle and Goons from both BatMan films
• 24 hours of prep
• Both Blood lusted
• Start at 30 feet
• No Morals
• Both have tracking devices to find each other

vs

Battle Location:Everywhere In Arkham City

Which Joker will win?

Jack Nicklson for the win.....

He walked to walked as he talked to talked....

I wanted to make this!! I gotta go with Jack. Dude joy-buzzed another dude to smoldering ash. And forget a ferry full of convicts and a few civilans. 89 Joker was tossing 20 million into the street..just so he could gas an entire city block to death.....and this was probably just gonna be a slow weekend. lol

@Grand Ninja said:

Jack Nicklson for the win.....

He walked to walked as he talked to talked....

Much better villain too.

Jack took out the batwing with a pistol.

1989 for the win

Any Dark Knight fans?

@deadpool6_6_6 said:

@Grand Ninja said:

Jack Nicklson for the win.....

He walked to walked as he talked to talked....

Much better villain too.

Lies.

Heath ledger Joker stomps. Nicholson was just like cartoony-bad. Ledger is pyschotic bad.

Ledger Joker killed a guy with a pencil

Damn...so hard to pick one...

its sad i didnt watch either one for more than 30 min

Jack was great, but Ledger was better..

Jack was a great representation of a comic book Joker. He pretty much had Toon Force.

Ledger, to me, was a much cooler Joker. And he gave Batman a rough time more than once in the movie (in an up front confrontation). He was a tactical genius, and a master with explosives. I say he blows Jack up, or he tells him how he got his scars before he kills Jack with a knife!

I dunno, both are great in their own regard, but I do prefer Ledger.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Ledger was sick!

Ledger was better.

Ledger was amazing as joker I loved how devoted he was to the role.

ledger was more of a darker version and gave batman more of a hard time but jack seemed like he had the better gadgets and he resembled more of the one in the comics...i like ledger better as a joker but who would win i am not fully sure but i feel like ledger would win though

Ledger was psychotic and murderous style crazy, so he wins.

By the way, @Sci_Fi_Rulez why do you write it as BatMan, instead of just Batman?

Heath Ledger's performance in the dark night was fantastic. So he wins this.

Ledger

I have nothing to add, but the way you spelld ''Batman" as "BatMan" is troubling.

@ImmortalOne said:

Ledger was psychotic and murderous style crazy, so he wins.

By the way, @Sci_Fi_Rulez why do you write it as BatMan, instead of just Batman?

Idk cos i wanted to write it the original way but it's still wrong and i can't edit it.

@cattlebattle said:

Ledger Joker killed a guy with a pencil

Joker 89 fried a dude by shaking his hand to me more impressive then the pencil trick

@cattlebattle said:

Ledger Joker killed a guy with a pencil

Joker 89 fried a dude by shaking his hand to me more impressive then the pencil trick

@cattlebattle said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

@cattlebattle said:

Ledger Joker killed a guy with a pencil

Joker 89 fried a dude by shaking his hand to me more impressive then the pencil trick

89 Joker had a hand buzzer -__- Ledger Joker had to physically accomplish his feat

Slamming a guy against a table isn't really showing physical strength.Joker 89 could of replicated that the but he chose to fry him cos he thought it was fuuny

Slamming a guy against a table isn't really showing physical strength.Joker 89 could of replicated that the but he chose to fry him cos he thought it was fuuny

@cattlebattle said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

@cattlebattle said:

Ledger Joker killed a guy with a pencil

Joker 89 fried a dude by shaking his hand to me more impressive then the pencil trick

89 Joker had a hand buzzer -__- Ledger Joker had to physically accomplish his feat

Well they both did. Jack had to touch the guy. But I know what you meant...just wanted to be a wise-ass. lol

As much as I hate to admit it, Ledger Joker was seriously an absolute strategic genius. He wins this if you ask me, he always has something up his sleeve, both literally and metaphorically. I prefer 89 Joker though by a mile.

@cattlebattle said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

Slamming a guy against a table isn't really showing physical strength.Joker 89 could of replicated that the but he chose to fry him cos he thought it was fuuny

The guy was large and presumably one of the mob bosses elite if he gets to attend a secret meeting where they discuss their business, Joker had physically act first and force the guys head down.....89' Joker has no physical combat skills whatsoever Frying that guy was funnier though :)

TDK joker didn't have any physical feats either.he just slammed the guys head on the pencil and the guy was smaller then him any ways.Same does 89 Joker.89 Joker snatched BATMAN and Vicky Vale at the edge of the building and had them hanging from the edge.that took Physical strength to take both people down at the same time while he was at the edge himself..

"Frying that guy was funnier though :)"...Yeah that's my favorite part lol.

Jack.

ledger was psychotic and brilliant, he would win this easily.

Ledger's Joker was better.  Especially since he plans things.  Like the bus and the pencil.  He basically like knows things would happen.
Jack's Joker  was more funny and less calculating.
Given a day of prep, Ledger's Joker would probably win.

Here's what it comes down to for me:

Jack screamed as he fell to his death. Ledger laughed as he fell, and was disappointed when he survived.

If there was any doubt left, that is the defining moment when I said "Ledger > Jack."

In a fight, I don't know. Jack had better gadgets. Heath was more brutal.

@JediXMan said:

Here's what it comes down to for me:

Jack screamed as he fell to his death. Ledger laughed as he fell, and was disappointed when he survived.

If there was any doubt left, that is the defining moment when I said "Ledger > Jack."

In a fight, I don't know. Jack had better gadgets. Heath was more brutal.

So he loses because he was screaming when he fell?.Batman wanted to kill him and the joker knew he had no way of surviving.TDK Batman wasn't planning to kill the joker that's why he brought him back up and the joker knew he wasn't going to kill him..In this video they talk about it

@Sci_Fi_Rulez:

0:47. Joker is irritated.

I see nothing where Joker knew he would save him. The entire movie is about him trying to make Batman kill.

Both are good. I think I pick Jack though.

@JediXMan said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez:

0:47. Joker is irritated.

I see nothing where Joker knew he would save him. The entire movie is about him trying to make Batman kill.

skip to 00:58 "i know you couldn't let me go could you".with that said he kinda knew

jack. he was just chaos incarnate. ledger was good but calculated. and i doubt the pencil killed the guy. lost an eye sure but not kill him. and jack has the best henchman ever in movies:

BOB!!! he even has his own toy goddamit!

@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

@JediXMan said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez:

0:47. Joker is irritated.

I see nothing where Joker knew he would save him. The entire movie is about him trying to make Batman kill.

skip to 00:58 "i know you couldn't let me go could you".with that said he kinda knew

No. He worded it like a question.

"Oh, you... you just couldn't let me go, could you?"

@JediXMan said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

@JediXMan said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez:

0:47. Joker is irritated.

I see nothing where Joker knew he would save him. The entire movie is about him trying to make Batman kill.

skip to 00:58 "i know you couldn't let me go could you".with that said he kinda knew

No. He worded it like a question.

"Oh, you... you just couldn't let me go, could you?"

well isn't that it?He kinda knew when he saved him?.@JediXMan said:

Here's what it comes down to for me:

Jack screamed as he fell to his death. Ledger laughed as he fell, and was disappointed when he survived.

If there was any doubt left, that is the defining moment when I said "Ledger > Jack."

In a fight, I don't know. Jack had better gadgets. Heath was more brutal.

This does not matter anyways cos 89 Joker showed the same of what TDK Joker presented..TDK Joker did have some what of the better smarts,but again the 89 Joker broke batman at a point where batman didn't care anymore and just wanted him(89 Joker) killed.

@Sci_Fi_Rulez:

I find it rather funny that you make this thread, but then get irritated when people don't vote for Jack...

@JediXMan said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez:

I find it rather funny that you make this thread, but then get irritated when people don't vote for Jack...

I'm not irritated at all.I like both Jack and Heath,but I like 89 Joker more better cos he stood out more to me and really portray the whole Joker from the Comic which is Sadistic,Genocidal and also Goofy.If you think i made this thread so i can have people like jack more then you are so wrong..I just made this thread cos i thought it would be a good battle and wanted people to share their opinions.Is that what comic vine is about?.Making debates and sharing your opinion and knowledge about the characters you debate and what they can bring to the table?..

Ledger easily.

@Erik said:

Ledger easily.

How?

@Sci_Fi_Rulez:

Probably with a knife.

@Erik said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez:

Probably with a knife.

Then 89Joker will just throw a feather to his neck

@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

@Erik said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez:

Probably with a knife.

Then 89Joker will just throw a feather to his neck

Ledger Joker would just stand there?

Jack Nicklesons Joker solos.

@Erik said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

@Erik said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez:

Probably with a knife.

Then 89Joker will just throw a feather to his neck

Ledger Joker would just stand there?

Then he falls down and slowly dying while 89Joker says,tell me something my friend,did you ever dance with the devil in the pale of moonlight then laughs sadistically

@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

@Erik said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

@Erik said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez:

Probably with a knife.

Then 89Joker will just throw a feather to his neck

Ledger Joker would just stand there?

Then he falls down and slowly dying while 89Joker says,tell me something my friend,did you ever dance with the devil in the pale of moonlight then laughs sadistically

So I guess the answer to my question is yes. You think Ledger Joker would just stand there while some poser winds up a dart throw.