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#1 Posted by SpawNgengiskhaN (179 posts) - - Show Bio

Battle takes place on a basketball court(inside).

Captain America does not have his shield.

Johnny cannot use any weapons.

Captain America cannot use any weapons.

A fight to the death.

Who wins?

#2 Posted by Lady_Liberty (7694 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America.

He's beat better foes, with greater powers many times before.

Johnny just doesn't have anything Steve can't deal with.

#3 Posted by SpawNgengiskhaN (179 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lady_Liberty: Captain doesn't have his shield, you did read that right?

#4 Edited by TERMINATORXX (3899 posts) - - Show Bio

Johnny Cage Owned Scorpion who has magical powers and teleporting abilities and scorpion would own CA.... Johnny cage beat scorpion in the end.... I'm going with Cage on this one.... JC is a higher skilled fighter he owns ca hands down.

#5 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3899 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lady_Liberty said:

Captain America.

He's beat better foes, with greater powers many times before.

Johnny just doesn't have anything Steve can't deal with.

JC Has dealt with bigger problems then CA... characters who are GOD Compred to ca... JC even beat Goro who would smash ca easily.... CA is too tiny and skinny.

#6 Posted by Lady_Liberty (7694 posts) - - Show Bio

@SpawNgengiskhaN: Yep.

But what difference does it make? Steve has better strength, speed, and durability feats, plus far better skill feats.

The shield might be nice, but he doesn't need it here.

#7 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3899 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lady_Liberty said:

@SpawNgengiskhaN: Yep.

But what difference does it make? Steve has better strength, speed, and durability feats, plus far better skill feats.

The shield might be nice, but he doesn't need it here.

NO

#8 Posted by SpawNgengiskhaN (179 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lady_Liberty: I wasn't trying to argue with you lol....I was just making sure you read that part.

#9 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3899 posts) - - Show Bio

@SpawNgengiskhaN said:

@Lady_Liberty: I wasn't trying to argue with you lol....I was just making sure you read that part.

Thing is if cap is such a better martial artist than why would he relie on his shield most of the time? yes ca is a skilled fighter, but no where in Johnnys league.. people thinking ca can beat jc unarmed gives me headshakes.

#10 Posted by SpawNgengiskhaN (179 posts) - - Show Bio

I understand both opinions. This is why I created this battle. Anyone have anything else to add?

#11 Edited by onilordasmodeus (2470 posts) - - Show Bio

JC is strong, gifted, and highly skilled and he has fought some pretty impressive enmemies, but his overall track record isn't that good. JC jokes around a lot, overestimating himself and underestimating others which would make this play out badly for him if he has that mentality going into this fight. Cap is overall stronger, more experienced and (as far as I know), a more "serious" fighter than JC is as he doesn't play around. Cap is also a born leader and is very resourceful, while Cage hasn't really shown those quailities (not that he couldn't do it though). In the end if Cage is serious he could win 1v1, but...when is Cage ever serious?

#12 Posted by KMART4455 (1290 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America stomps..

I mean he just has too much for JC to deal with.

#13 Edited by Wolfrazer (4976 posts) - - Show Bio
@onilordasmodeus:  Cage has been serious at times, hell if remembering right he gathered up an army leading them to fight during armageddon because Raiden was gone and Liu Kang was killed. While JC may seem to act goofy, cocky at times he can be serious when he needed to....I mean otherwise why was he of all people chosen with others for mortal kombat and help protect Earthrealm?
#14 Posted by _slim_ (13028 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap.

#15 Posted by Pokergeist (22329 posts) - - Show Bio

Is this Serious? Cap everyday with his hands tied behind his back.

#16 Posted by onilordasmodeus (2470 posts) - - Show Bio

@Wolfrazer: True, I was actually just read that bio again. I forgot he took on Shinnok (probably his clone). But yeah, JC has had his share of lumps, and in some capacity may have learned his lesson. In the end, I think Cap would be just be more likely to succeed at his goal, though I really can't see either of these guys killing the other. Well, not unless Johnny just doesn't shut up.

#17 Posted by TheAcidSkull (15961 posts) - - Show Bio

@TERMINATORXX said:

@SpawNgengiskhaN said:

@Lady_Liberty: I wasn't trying to argue with you lol....I was just making sure you read that part.

Thing is if cap is such a better martial artist than why would he relie on his shield most of the time? yes ca is a skilled fighter, but no where in Johnnys league.. people thinking ca can beat jc unarmed gives me headshakes.

jonny beat scorpion in the movie which was non canon, i the real Mk scorpion is far superior to jhonny and will beat him senseless, sorry man, but jonny does not have that much feat's to compare with CA, but if he goes down he will go down fightinh

#18 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2701 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America wins...fatality! Dun dun dun

#19 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@TERMINATORXX said:

@SpawNgengiskhaN said:

@Lady_Liberty: I wasn't trying to argue with you lol....I was just making sure you read that part.

Thing is if cap is such a better martial artist than why would he relie on his shield most of the time?

It's his favoured weapon of choice, acting like an extension of his body.

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#20 Edited by TERMINATORXX (3899 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheAcidSkull said:

@TERMINATORXX said:

@SpawNgengiskhaN said:

@Lady_Liberty: I wasn't trying to argue with you lol....I was just making sure you read that part.

Thing is if cap is such a better martial artist than why would he relie on his shield most of the time? yes ca is a skilled fighter, but no where in Johnnys league.. people thinking ca can beat jc unarmed gives me headshakes.

jonny beat scorpion in the movie which was non canon, i the real Mk scorpion is far superior to jhonny and will beat him senseless, sorry man, but jonny does not have that much feat's to compare with CA, but if he goes down he will go down fightinh

One thing I never got about this website... I never understood what was so important about non canon things? like I know what cannon means, I just cant explain what it means...lol

Edit: the scorpion in the movie was also far suprior to johnny cage and was giving him a good a$$ beating for a good while, but johnny managed to come out on top.

#21 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3899 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@TERMINATORXX said:

@SpawNgengiskhaN said:

@Lady_Liberty: I wasn't trying to argue with you lol....I was just making sure you read that part.

Thing is if cap is such a better martial artist than why would he relie on his shield most of the time?

It's his favoured weapon of choice, acting like an extension of his body.

CA's skills are not even as impressive as Jonnys, whenever I played MK on Playstation years ago I had to pick fighters like Shao Kohn, Kentaro, Motaro, Goro and so forth to actually beat him in a game.. Captain America relies on his shield too much, Johnny cage hardley relied on any weapons which he has shown hes a better skilled and trained fighter so im going with him.

#22 Posted by joewell (6240 posts) - - Show Bio

im gonna go w/ jonny, CA is good but he would lose to almost any mk characters

#23 Posted by TheAcidSkull (15961 posts) - - Show Bio

@TERMINATORXX said:

@TheAcidSkull said:

@TERMINATORXX said:

@SpawNgengiskhaN said:

@Lady_Liberty: I wasn't trying to argue with you lol....I was just making sure you read that part.

Thing is if cap is such a better martial artist than why would he relie on his shield most of the time? yes ca is a skilled fighter, but no where in Johnnys league.. people thinking ca can beat jc unarmed gives me headshakes.

jonny beat scorpion in the movie which was non canon, i the real Mk scorpion is far superior to jhonny and will beat him senseless, sorry man, but jonny does not have that much feat's to compare with CA, but if he goes down he will go down fightinh

One thing I never got about this website... I never understood what was so important about non canon things? like I know what cannon means, I just cant explain what it means...lol

Edit: the scorpion in the movie was also far suprior to johnny cage and was giving him a good a$$ beating for a good while, but johnny managed to come out on top.

well you see movies and animated series are not in the actually universe , in the movie jhonny cage beat goro and scorpion , in the actual MK universe( the game) both goro and scorpion would mop the floor with cage, don't get me wrong , i love jhonny and i think he is awesome but there are times we gotta say he is out matched

#24 Posted by Goku1fan (1263 posts) - - Show Bio

Cage

#25 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3899 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheAcidSkull said:

@TERMINATORXX said:

@TheAcidSkull said:

@TERMINATORXX said:

@SpawNgengiskhaN said:

@Lady_Liberty: I wasn't trying to argue with you lol....I was just making sure you read that part.

Thing is if cap is such a better martial artist than why would he relie on his shield most of the time? yes ca is a skilled fighter, but no where in Johnnys league.. people thinking ca can beat jc unarmed gives me headshakes.

jonny beat scorpion in the movie which was non canon, i the real Mk scorpion is far superior to jhonny and will beat him senseless, sorry man, but jonny does not have that much feat's to compare with CA, but if he goes down he will go down fightinh

One thing I never got about this website... I never understood what was so important about non canon things? like I know what cannon means, I just cant explain what it means...lol

Edit: the scorpion in the movie was also far suprior to johnny cage and was giving him a good a$$ beating for a good while, but johnny managed to come out on top.

well you see movies and animated series are not in the actually universe , in the movie jhonny cage beat goro and scorpion , in the actual MK universe( the game) both goro and scorpion would mop the floor with cage, don't get me wrong , i love jhonny and i think he is awesome but there are times we gotta say he is out matched

Again both scorpion and Goro were suprerior to cage in many ways... Goro didnt even get one hit on cage and johnny knocked him off that clift or mountain, whatever it was, but Goro was very superior... Raiden and Shang sung even warned Johnny cage he'd die going up against the most unbeaten one their was..

#26 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (5913 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America schools the Hollywood star wannabe.

#27 Posted by TheAcidSkull (15961 posts) - - Show Bio

@TERMINATORXX said:

@TheAcidSkull said:

@TERMINATORXX said:

@TheAcidSkull said:

@TERMINATORXX said:

@SpawNgengiskhaN said:

@Lady_Liberty: I wasn't trying to argue with you lol....I was just making sure you read that part.

Thing is if cap is such a better martial artist than why would he relie on his shield most of the time? yes ca is a skilled fighter, but no where in Johnnys league.. people thinking ca can beat jc unarmed gives me headshakes.

jonny beat scorpion in the movie which was non canon, i the real Mk scorpion is far superior to jhonny and will beat him senseless, sorry man, but jonny does not have that much feat's to compare with CA, but if he goes down he will go down fightinh

One thing I never got about this website... I never understood what was so important about non canon things? like I know what cannon means, I just cant explain what it means...lol

Edit: the scorpion in the movie was also far suprior to johnny cage and was giving him a good a$$ beating for a good while, but johnny managed to come out on top.

well you see movies and animated series are not in the actually universe , in the movie jhonny cage beat goro and scorpion , in the actual MK universe( the game) both goro and scorpion would mop the floor with cage, don't get me wrong , i love jhonny and i think he is awesome but there are times we gotta say he is out matched

Again both scorpion and Goro were suprerior to cage in many ways... Goro didnt even get one hit on cage and johnny knocked him off that clift or mountain, whatever it was, but Goro was very superior... Raiden and Shang sung even warned Johnny cage he'd die going up against the most unbeaten one their was..

exactly, the movie goes differently, because cage was the starring man and the good guy's always win , but in the actual MK game universe goro moped the floor with most of MK's fighters and scorpion grooved to be one of the greatest fighters in the mk universe , he fought the to monster oni and held his own but was eventually overpowered

#28 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America defeats Johnny Cage in a long, awesome fight. With no shield and no ki attacks (that's what I understood for 'no weapons' anyway) Steve wins this.

Oh and if we're going by video game feats, then I played with Cap in MvsC 2 and MvsC3 and he owns everyone.

#29 Posted by God_Spawn (35985 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll take Steve.

But if I was playing Mk9 vs MvC3, I'd solo the hole MvC roster with nut punches.

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#30 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3899 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheAcidSkull: Thats what I was saying about the game... If I chose Shao Kohn, Goro, Kentaro or Motaro as a fighter I had better luck beating cage easily, but if i selected a regular mk fighter like sonya or raiden... I had such a hard time beating him for a weird reason and it went like that for me on all the mk games I played.

#31 Posted by Shamelesslysupportinaznballers (553 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap got this. Don't even know why this is even a debate. Cage is always seen as a joke, always dies and is a lower tier character in the games.

#32 Posted by TheAcidSkull (15961 posts) - - Show Bio

@TERMINATORXX said:

@TheAcidSkull: Thats what I was saying about the game... If I chose Shao Kohn, Goro, Kentaro or Motaro as a fighter I had better luck beating cage easily, but if i selected a regular mk fighter like sonya or raiden... I had such a hard time beating him for a weird reason and it went like that for me on all the mk games I played.

you should only consider the endings and the stroy mode of the game , the ladder does not count, beacuse the computer can make any player hard, even striker lol, but i usually beat everyone with scirpion and reptile , all i'm saying is that you should't bring the movies or the ladder as an argument , only the story:)

#33 Posted by k4tzm4n (35208 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America in a landslide. Cage has no canon feats that would make me believe this is even close.

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#34 Posted by onilordasmodeus (2470 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shamelesslysupportinaznballers: Nah, JC is top tier in MK9, one of the best characters. It's JC's personality that puts him behind Cap. JC has all the tools and know how to win.

#35 Posted by SpawNgengiskhaN (179 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jayfournines: No Johnny can use his ki blasts. When I said no weapons I meant no swords, shields, guns, etc...

Superhuman abilities are still a go in this fight for the both of them.

#36 Posted by spawn_123 (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap is more durable and he can withstand multiple impacts and yeah he is a lot faster than JC

#37 Edited by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@SpawNgengiskhaN said:

@Jayfournines: No Johnny can use his ki blasts. When I said no weapons I meant no swords, shields, guns, etc...

Superhuman abilities are still a go in this fight for the both of them.

Oh, well...hrm....ki blasts...I still give it to Cap, if he grapples Johnny his far superior strength, inability to get tired and soak factor will give him the win

#38 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3219 posts) - - Show Bio

CA would own JC. Even if JC has KI blasts It still won't make a difference. Cap can dodge bullets. He is at the peak of human potential. And it has been said that he has super strength he would kill JC if he doesn't hold back

#39 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@TERMINATORXX: That's a video-game. Gameplay doesn't account for actual feats nor has Johnny ever been tested against superior opponents to the degree that Cap has.

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#40 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3899 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@TERMINATORXX: That's a video-game. Gameplay doesn't account for actual feats nor has Johnny ever been tested against superior opponents to the degree that Cap has.

Yeah, but everytime Cap has faught more superior beings hes relied on his shield too much... You hardley ever see him fight superior oppenents without it.

#41 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@TERMINATORXX said:

@Deranged Midget said:

@TERMINATORXX: That's a video-game. Gameplay doesn't account for actual feats nor has Johnny ever been tested against superior opponents to the degree that Cap has.

Yeah, but everytime Cap has faught more superior beings hes relied on his shield too much... You hardley ever see him fight superior oppenents without it.

How is using his shield a downfall? It's literally an extension of his body. He depends on it no more than Batman does his utility belt. It's more or less an added bonus to the skills he already utilizes.

And he's fought plenty opponents without his shield and still proved to be a great threat.

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#42 Edited by onilordasmodeus (2470 posts) - - Show Bio

JC has fought many fighters who would be deemed superior to humans like Goro, Motaro, Reptile, Baraka, and more, plus loads and loads of fodder interspersed. JC has won some and lost some so he has a decent fight history. I'd say as far as stats go that Cap has him in durability, overall experience, and tactics, but Johnny's strength is exeptional as he can Uppercut a head off, or sidekick through a torso, as well as his speed with all his shadow and enhanced shadow moves. Cap may be peak but in some categories JC is beyond peak. Cap is definately going to get hit and get hit hard.

#43 Posted by k4tzm4n (35208 posts) - - Show Bio

I love it when in game mechanics and displays are used in debates.

In Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom I used Captain America to defeat Galactus. That's right. A shield toss hurt Galactus and even bested him! Just sayin'.

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#44 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3219 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n

I love it when in game mechanics and displays are used in debates.

In Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom I used Captain America to defeat Galactus. That's right. A shield toss hurt Galactus and even bested him! Just sayin'.

Lol
#45 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3899 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

I love it when in game mechanics and displays are used in debates.

In Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom I used Captain America to defeat Galactus. That's right. A shield toss hurt Galactus and even bested him! Just sayin'.

Captain America shield might of harmed galactus, but thats different then this fight... he doesnt have his shield and ca relies on his shield more than he does on physical fighting.... i've seen more of it from cage and he seems more trained for it..

#46 Posted by MarvelAvengersAlliance10 (222 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America wins

Marvel martial artists throw solid punches and kicks, not unlike in Mortal Kombat the characters fight and sound like retarded monkeys

MK = fake and wannabe martial arts

Marvel = real martial arts

#47 Posted by ComicVineAddict23 (186 posts) - - Show Bio

Mortal Kombat dudes fight like untrained pussies. Captain America should win here.

#48 Posted by KillerZ (1580 posts) - - Show Bio

@onilordasmodeus said:

JC has fought many fighters who would be deemed superior to humans like Goro, Motaro, Reptile, Baraka, and more...

Johnny Cage was killed by Motaro, before the timetravel thing in MK9.

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#49 Edited by onilordasmodeus (2470 posts) - - Show Bio

@MarvelAvengersAlliance10 said:

Captain America wins

Marvel martial artists throw solid punches and kicks, not unlike in Mortal Kombat the characters fight and sound like retarded monkeys

MK = fake and wannabe martial arts

Marvel = real martial arts

@ComicVineAddict23 said:

Mortal Kombat dudes fight like untrained pussies. Captain America should win here.

Wow you guys troll hard!

Regardless, Cap wins.

#50 Posted by ChaosMarvel (987 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap