@nickzambuto said:
@oni_bane said:
The latest episode Diggs was getting handled by a superhuman who can tank bullets and beat men to death with punches and move almost faster than the eye can see.
Fixed.
We have no way of knowing if he was superhuman at all. He tanks bullets but still bleeds. When did he kill anyone with his bare hands? Because the first guy was still alive after 3 hits. He told his boys to finish him off.
- Brick didn't bleed. Diggle shot him in the forehead from point blank range, and in response he laughed and actually complimented Diggle for trying a headshot when most people don't think about that. He bled when the first guy shot him through the pectoral, which is all soft muscle and no bone, but instead of being in pain he again just laughed at it. That's superhuman durability + inhuman pain threshold/or doesn't feel pain at all.
- He punched the guy three times, and after the guy's entire face was just a red blob. Then he told his men to dispose of the body, not finish him off. That was the entire point of the game -- he gives them a gun and they see who can kill the other first. That's superhuman strength to kill a man with just three basic punches, and Dig was tanking those punches without going down or even being seriously injured afterwards.
- After Roy shot him with the arrow, Brick escaped the warehouse without either of them even seeing him despite the fact that they were looking right at him. So that's superhuman speed as well.
Brick might not have been a martial artist, but he clearly knew how to fight regardless, plus he was superhuman. Just from this one episode his stats are (slightly) superior to MCU Cap's, so Diggle losing to him after putting up a fight isn't anything to be ashamed of.
Diggle is basically the "Crossbones" of Arrow. He never actually wins, but he can give just about everyone a pretty decent fight. Oliver, China White, Ravager, and now Brick. The former two are two of the most skilled fighters in the series, while the latter are both superhumans. Diggle is likely stronger and more durable than the Arrow himself, given the fact that he could tank attacks from Mirakuru users with ease, resisted Grundy's pull when he tried to break his arm, and recently managed to tackle and overpower Brick. Oliver even commented on his muscles being the size of bowling balls, so it's safe to say Diggle has the most power between himself and Batroc. Batroc is more agile of course, but I don't think he's faster; once Cap figured out his style he basically toyed with the mercenary, whereas Diggle regularly keeps up with Oliver who's speed feats are even better than Cap himself. In the comics, there's a flashback where Diggle's convoy in Afghanistan is ambushed by 12-16 Taliban insurgents. He comments that they're the most ruthless group of fighters he's ever seen, and despite being armed only with melee weapons they manage to wipe out his entire convoy in a matter of moments. After that Diggle gets a hatchet stuck in his back, but once he gets angry, he rips it out and slaughters every single Taliban there by himself. The impressive part is, a scarf was thrown into the air right before the battle began, and it ended before the scarf reached the ground.
Diggle has every means to win this fight -- much more screen time and therefore feats, much more in-depth training and experience, showings against a wider range of opponents, better stats, and of course he's smarter. It won't be easy, but this will be the first fight Diggle has won.
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