John Constantine Vs Jesse Custer

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#1  Edited By Methos
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#2  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Constintine seems to have the edge skillwise.They both pretty much have the same powers though.Not sure how much it would take to take one of them out.

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#3  Edited By Methos

surprised more people aren't here...

i thought this would be a good fight

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#4  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Methos says:

"surprised more people aren't here... i thought this would be a good fight M"

Battle forums have been pretty dead....

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#5  Edited By Methos

yeah... and this one doesn't have any 'flashy superpowers'... it's basically normal people

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#6  Edited By wickedragon

Methos says:

"yeah... and this one doesn't have any 'flashy superpowers'... it's basically normal people M"

Well yes...and no.

Both can really fork shite upp, channeling the forces of heaven and hell. On one hand both can get into serious trouble fending off a dude with a bat, on the other both could possibly take out supes with well-directed use of magic (sending him to heaven, hell or the Third Place and such).

I think the main problem with getting people to take a stance in either direction is that their powers are complex. There really is no easy solution, at least not with a weeks worth of prep-time.

If it was just an on-the-go thing I think I'd give it to Custer, but seing as Constantine is such an insidious bastard a week worth of planning has let him kill the devil and cheat certain death by tricking the rulers of hell into choosing between war in hell or keeping him alive.

I just don't know.

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#7  Edited By Chaos Prime
@Methos said:
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surprised more people aren't here...

i thought this would be a good fight

M

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It is thats why im bumping it up.Did a search before i was about to post the same line up ;-)
Imo JC takes this match up as imo he will have more to gain with a wks prep.ie- come up with spell that will either make Jesse talk back-wards or somehow seal his mouth shut.But the problem there is will Jesse counter this by having a tape recorder in his pocket with a short speech telling JC to goe & f~*c himself ;-)
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Both went to get drinks at Lucifer's Lux.

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JC wins.

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This would be interesting if anyone actually read those comics.

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#14 the_red_viper  Moderator

This would be interesting if anyone actually read those comics.

Hellblazer and Preacher are both amazing though. Haven't read either of them all the way through admittedly, but I'm getting there lol.

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Didn't constantine with prep kill doctor fate? Has jesse done anything on that level?

If not the my man constantine takes this

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A week of prep...Constantine takes it. If this were a random, I'd back Custer.

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#18 morpheus_  Moderator

I doubt that most of the people responding in Constantine threads have ever read a single Hellblazer issue.

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@morpheus_: what's your take Morph? And who do you prefer between the 2?

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I doubt that most of the people responding in Constantine threads have ever read a single Hellblazer issue.

Personally I have, although, time diluted memory could be affecting my decision. What's your take on this battle?

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@wyldsong: I'm starting to get into Constantine and watching the show preacher

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I'm not that interested in the Preacher so I can't tell.

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@supermanwithatan01: There are some good Constantine runs, and then some that are meh. Overall, I enjoy the character. Preacher...you need to read the books if you haven't. Good run, and Jesse is pretty bad arse with the word of god.

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@khael: Basically, using the word of god, Jesse can make people do whatever he tells them to. It's a divine sort of power gained when a being called Genesis chose Jesse as it's host.

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With prep constantine really only needs to put in headphones to win... basing this on the show though, comic preacher may be more powerful

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#26  Edited By Super_ninja

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@killers10333: Comic Jesse needs his enemy to be able to hear him and understand him.

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#29 morpheus_  Moderator

@wyldsong: Not referring to you, WS. It's more of a general observation since I see various users attributing abilities and powers to Vertigo Constantine that he never displayed, particularly in random encounters, where he is nigh useless and usually survives by his wits and luck.

I haven't read Preacher so I can't say if John could utilize the prep time to silence Custer.

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#30 morpheus_  Moderator

@morpheus_: what's your take Morph? And who do you prefer between the 2?

Never read Preacher, but Constantine is a great character, by default I'd choose him currently.

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@wyldsong: Not referring to you, WS. It's more of a general observation since I see various users attributing abilities and powers to Vertigo Constantine that he never displayed, particularly in random encounters, where he is nigh useless and usually survives by his wits and luck.

I haven't read Preacher so I can't say if John could utilize the prep time to silence Custer.

I think Jesse's powers are useless if John can's hear him or can't understand him. IIRC he once tried using it on people who didn't understand English and failed.

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#32 morpheus_  Moderator

@the_red_viper: lol, John should find a way around it in a few hours, much less in a full week, then. But I don't know what Jesse can do with his own prep.

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#33 the_red_viper  Moderator

@the_red_viper: lol, John should find a way around it in a few hours, much less in a full week, then. But I don't know what Jesse can do with his own prep.

Pfffft, I can find a way around it in any hardware store.

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@morpheus_: In that case, I'll pick up some Hellblazer!

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John with prep should be able to find a way around Jesse's powers.

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@the_red_viper: ah so its the same as in the show. In that case, with prep, contantine wins

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#38  Edited By Wyldsong

@morpheus_ said:

@the_red_viper: lol, John should find a way around it in a few hours, much less in a full week, then. But I don't know what Jesse can do with his own prep.

Jesse isn't much of a prep guy. Overall, he is the more powerful of the two, and in straight hand to hand, I'd probably give Jesse a slight edge. John's prep would most likely pull the win for him.

@wyldsong: Not referring to you, WS. It's more of a general observation since I see various users attributing abilities and powers to Vertigo Constantine that he never displayed, particularly in random encounters, where he is nigh useless and usually survives by his wits and luck.

No worries, wasn't really taking it as such, and I think you are right. People to attribute quite a bit to Constantine, and build up this legend that doesn't exist, ignoring little things like actual context and so on.

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Correct me if im wrong but doesn't constantine deal wit da presence who is technically higher den genesis

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John wins.

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John Constantine wins. He fights superpowered beeings

jesse is just a normal man