Zarathos and Noble Kale should win this. Didn't the teen titans beat trigon!! Please explain to me how trigon suppose to battle two characters of their power if he lost to the teen titans. Just one member of this duo could effortlessly destroy the teen titans without even trying.
@CadenceV2: You'd be right, he had 2 physical 'fights' with them; the first where neither had actually met before...he wasn't bothered by them back then and Raven bought him off with going with him willingly. The second round came in Terror of Trigon where he was still completely unbothered by them save when they killed Raven (which got Titans Tower dropped on them) and when Garfield flung himself into one of his eyes. Otherwise they were beneath his notice.
@CadenceV2: You'd be right, he had 2 physical 'fights' with them; the first where neither had actually met before...he wasn't bothered by them back then and Raven bought him off with going with him willingly. The second round came in Terror of Trigon where he was still completely unbothered by them save when they killed Raven (which got Titans Tower dropped on them) and when Garfield flung himself into one of his eyes. Otherwise they were beneath his notice.
Its funny cause Avengers, X-men, Silver surfer are beneath Hell Lords Notice. Yet Both GRs Soloed them. Together they rock Trigon. Too much for Trigon to take.
@CadenceV2: So far the only thing thats proven to be able to harm Trigon is something neither of the Ghost Riders have.
I just dont see any evidence of Trigon feats outmatching Mephisto who is regulary defeated by the Riders at Full power. heck Nobel Kale ruled Mephistos realm as Hell Lord.
Saying Trigon beats the riders is like saying Trigon beats Mephisto and Sattanish at the same time.
@CadenceV2: When did Mephisto conquer Earth in the blink of an eye? And when did he consume an entire universe? And lets not forget who got his ass kicked by Black Panther.
@CadenceV2: When did Mephisto conquer Earth in the blink of an eye? And when did he consume an entire universe? And lets not forget who got his ass kicked by Black Panther.
PIS Stupidity. Silver Surfer was also beaten by Black Panther until BP took a blast from Stardust.....
Spider Man KO Fire Lord.
PIS has no point in this. Mephisto is averagly better showings (and showings period for that matter) to Trigun.
Trigun is like Cyttorak. nearly Featless. Only Cytorrak has more actual feats.
@CadenceV2: When did Mephisto conquer Earth in the blink of an eye? And when did he consume an entire universe? And lets not forget who got his ass kicked by Black Panther.
PIS Stupidity. Silver Surfer was also beaten by Black Panther until BP took a blast from Stardust.....
Spider Man KO Fire Lord.
PIS has no point in this. Mephisto is averagly better showings (and showings period for that matter) to Trigun.
Trigun is like Cyttorak. nearly Featless. Only Cytorrak has more actual feats.
@CadenceV2: When did Mephisto conquer Earth in the blink of an eye? And when did he consume an entire universe? And lets not forget who got his ass kicked by Black Panther.
PIS Stupidity. Silver Surfer was also beaten by Black Panther until BP took a blast from Stardust.....
Spider Man KO Fire Lord.
PIS has no point in this. Mephisto is averagly better showings (and showings period for that matter) to Trigun.
Trigun is like Cyttorak. nearly Featless. Only Cytorrak has more actual feats.
Shows how little you know.
Your right. I go by what I seen on these Threads. Scans of Triguns Awsomness?
@Outside_85: Yeah i know this. and thats pretty cool... still weak when Mephisto has Challenge Galactus to Stalemates in straight up fights and Reverse Tie for Spiderman.
Just Saying Mephistos Feats > Trigons. Heck Lucifer the Guy strange was afraid of mere Presence would have Breaken the World and Moon.
Guess what Happen to Him? Zarathos beat him.
Heck both Brothers beaten Zadkiel as God
They basicaly summon the Spirits of Vengance that Ketch killed after Zadkiel prove unable to unmake the GRs. Beating down Zadkiels God Power in Heaven itself.
Sad fact was this was Ketch and Jhonny Riders not the more powerful Nobel Kale and Zarathos Riders.
@CadenceV2: Trigon has consumed an entire universe, so personally I consider him far above Galactus in that regard. And he doesn't have the low blows or random acts of stupidity Mephisto has (like getting nothing out of that deal with Spiderman). You pulled up him loosing to the Teen Titans, it is worth knowing both times they defeated him by striking when he was distracted, first by trying to drag DC Earth into his universe. The second time he came face to face with a 1000 year old plan tailored by Azar to defeat him while he was preparing to siphon everything from DC Earth into his own universe...which he ate.
@CadenceV2: I might spoil that by knowing Ketch (I assume it was him) knocked himself out when he used the penance stare on a nameless Hand ninja and had Daredevil drag him clear. On top of this, arent the Ghost Riders almost legendary in the amount of times they've been screwed over by various more clever demons?
@CadenceV2: I might spoil that by knowing Ketch (I assume it was him) knocked himself out when he used the penance stare on a nameless Hand ninja and had Daredevil drag him clear. On top of this, arent the Ghost Riders almost legendary in the amount of times they've been screwed over by various more clever demons?
I never heard or seen that. I know he almost got KO from a Demon he PS.
However you said yourself it was KETCH not Nobel Kale who is as different in power as Thunderstrike is to Odin Force Thor.
@zackattack529: According to the story in Judd's Titans, Trigon survived his apparent death in Terror of Trigon and was subsequently drained, both because he consumed his own universe and afterwards had to deal with numberless invasions of his own realm, or rather what was left of it. Raven managed to aggravate him enough for him to boast he could still wipe out the DC universe, despite being a shadow of his former self.
@CadenceV2: When did Mephisto conquer Earth in the blink of an eye? And when did he consume an entire universe? And lets not forget who got his ass kicked by Black Panther.
Blackheart conquered and pretty much did the same thing Trigon did, and was defeated by.....guess who?
@Floopay: A shoe? Blackheart appears to have a career in being played.
So does Trigon, lets not forget the Sons of Trigon. I mean within his own realm, Trigon is unstoppable. But the guy has achieved nothing but failure when attempting to switch realms. I think the only significant thing he has done is destroy Azarath, and even then he needed Raven to do so. I mean lets face it, the guy gets thwarted regularly by his teenage daughter.
And a lot less of Mephisto's "failures" are actually failures. Mephisto likes to test people's powers and see if they are worthy of them. Much like he did with Thanos, much like he did with Surfer, etc. etc.
And Blackheart achieved about as much as Trigon did in his attempt to conquer the universe or galaxy or whatever he was trying to do. He got Earth, and then was thwarted by some super powered being capable of taking advantage of some plot device to defeat them. So Blackheart being a jobber and accomplishing as much as Trigon isn't really helping that argument...
@Floopay: A shoe? Blackheart appears to have a career in being played.
So does Trigon, lets not forget the Sons of Trigon. I mean within his own realm, Trigon is unstoppable. But the guy has achieved nothing but failure when attempting to switch realms. I think the only significant thing he has done is destroy Azarath, and even then he needed Raven to do so. I mean lets face it, the guy gets thwarted regularly by his teenage daughter.
And a lot less of Mephisto's "failures" are actually failures. Mephisto likes to test people's powers and see if they are worthy of them. Much like he did with Thanos, much like he did with Surfer, etc. etc.
And Blackheart achieved about as much as Trigon did in his attempt to conquer the universe or galaxy or whatever he was trying to do. He got Earth, and then was thwarted by some super powered being capable of taking advantage of some plot device to defeat them. So Blackheart being a jobber and accomplishing as much as Trigon isn't really helping that argument...
@CadenceV2: Can you at least spell his name correctly? Besides is says brothers have the full powers of Zarathos and Kale, not that they are Zarathos and Kale.
@Floopay: You mean the teenage daughter thats supposedly as powerful as he is if she'd just give in to the dark side? If you say so, better than getting punked by Black Panther. As for Mephisto, he is an odd card to pull by anyone because he is not a fighter, he's a schemer the same way you pick Thor for breaking things and Loki for the planning.
Anyways I appears we are not going to agree on this; I believe Trigon takes it based on his feats and the fact he doesnt have any low blow losses that plague the Ghost Riders on the account of their stories not being very interesting if they always blazed around super-shayean style.
@Outside_85: Again if they have powers of said characters then he meant they are those said characters. Blaze and Ketch are pushed aside when thier Spirits of Vengance take over thier bodies.
Im pretty sure the OP knows very little of GR thus made this match. There is NO SUCH THING as Blaze with all Zarathos power. It does not exist.
Thats like saying "Banner with all WWH power." He must clearly meant WWH then.
Yeah I do belive you wont agree so agree to disagree.
ABC logic doesnt prove anything.If we going by who has the lowest showing,we can argue both.Ghost Rider shouldnt be beaten by Black Panther as Trigon shouldnt be beat by Teen Titans.Its PIS and WIS on both ends to boost their faves up.Every hero or villain lose to their counter-part.Even tho I want to say Trigon,I'm not sure.
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