JLA vs Their Most Powerful Enemies

Team 1: The JLA (everyone in this pic, pre-52)

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Team 2: WW3 Black Adam, Despero, H/P Doomsday, Superboy Prime

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Everyone in character. No BFR allowed. Also, no magic allowed.

Who will win?

Justice league

No Zoom??? Ill take the Justice League on this one. They are too Overwhelming for their enemies.

Adam had plot on his side I think the League takes it

Is that Dr Fate I see in the background? JL wins.

I edited the rules to specify that magic is not allowed.

@willpayton: Pft doesn't matter they still win.

Where's Darkseid?

JL stomps

Dr. Midnight's got this..............

He was having brunch at the time and just couldnt make it in time for the battle. Sorry, maybe next time.

How? Each of the team has taken on multiple JLA'ers at various times. Despero is capable of mind-controlling many of the JLA team. Superboy Prime alone could take out half the team within seconds if they're not careful.

So, how do the JLA team stomp this??

Wally solos? trololol

Honestly the villains can take it. H/p Doomsday and Prime are two huge bricks that are going to be a bitch to put down and Despero is going to wreak havoc with his TP.

JLA

Batman and his bitches takes this victory.

Well said.

Villains

Any one of the enemies could solo, and so many of Batman's bitches in the picture are irrelevant without magic or prep (Batman, Zatanna, Doctor Fate, Doctor Mid-Nite, Huntress and The Question just to name a few). The enemies take this with no difficulty whatsoever.

Actually he was laid out at the bottom of a flight of stairs

@willpayton: maybe i should edit it to say the JL win.

Black Adam VS Hal, John Stewart, Supergirl, Aquaman and Shazaam

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Despero VS Kyle, Guy, Metamorpho, Mr. Miracle, and Aquaman

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Doomsday VS Red Tornado, Flash, Black Lightning, Hawkgirl, Cyborg, Fire, Booster Gold and everyone else not fighting

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Superboy Prime VS Superman, Wonder Woman, Powergirl, Supergirl, Firestorm, Captain Atom

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I think that wins it. Its close since we cant use magic users.

@mysticmedivh: Instead of putting some crappy Batman pics, contribute to the thread.

Also, JL takes this.

@mysticmedivh: stop trying to derail his thread or ill ask a mod to step in.

Wait - if magic isn't allowed, surely Black Adam and Captain Marvel are both completely powerless?!

JLA

@mysticmedivh: Dude, contribute to this thread properly, it's a quite interesting thread, also, if you can't contribute properly, just don't post.

@MysticMedivh: Lol.

• No magic means Doc Fate and Zatanna are out.
• Exactly all of the street levelers here are 100% useless (Huntress, Batman, Canary, Ollie, Question, Animal Man, Mr. Miracle and so on).
• Booster, both Hawks, Dr. Light, Aquaman, Red Tornado, Metamorpho, Cyborg, Vixen and Fire can't do anything against anyone on that villain team.

That leaves us with Superman, Supergirl, Power Girl, Wonder Woman, Donna, 4 GLs, Billy, Cap Atom, Firestorm, and Wally.

• Firestorm, Cap Atom and Donna can't offer much. Atom will last a bit though.
• I think Wally can actually deal out enough damage to drop Adam and MAYBE hurt Despero. H/P Doomsday has already taken him out and SBP should be out of his league.

Roster update - We're down to 3 Kryptonians (maybe 4 if that's Mon in back), WW, 4 GLs, and Billy.

• None of those people have the means to put H/P Doomsday down even in a quadruple team up. We've seen that fail already. Only WW and maybe the GLs (Clarification please.) have telepathy resistance so Despero is enough to eliminate a chunk of who's left.
• By now the GLs power levels will be low and frankly, their wills will be somewhat questionable after watching 3/4+ of their team members/friends die. Wonder Woman will be severely fatigued and that's even assuming she lives that long. I've just been going down the line eliminating the obvious.

So yeah that about does it. With no BFR and no one in the fight with better telepathy than Despero, H/P Doomsday can't be put down. It would probably take several of the 9 heavy hitters here just to stop SBP if they even could at all. That handicaps the rest of the heavies and leaves them out matched by DD, Despero and maybe Adam.

I'm voting for the Villains here.

This. Most of the Justice Leaguers in the picture are utterly irrelevant. WW3 BA took out an insane amount of heroes with little difficulty, Despero has shown greater strength than the whole JLA combined plus more powerful TP than MMH, H/P Doomsday beat the crap out of Darkseid and tanked omega beams, and SBP stomped Sodam Yat, who had the power of Ion and the physical powers of Superman. The villains Justice-stomp the Leaguers.

@mysticmedivh: I had no idea batman could do that

The Justice League ftw, but suffer casualties

JLA has too many powerhouses. They should win but some of the fodder in the background like Question should die in the process.

No magic? Thats some bull...

Is that Ion Rayner back there?

@drew_tan:

No magic is stupid idea. Specially since there is lot of magical characters.

Wonder Woman is magical character without magic powers

Donna Troy almost the same case

Aquaman is same case

Tempest has magic powers

Zatanna as well

Nabu is pretty much God of magic

Shazam is magic Superman (and Black Adam is evil magic Superman)

Animal Man due to connection to the red

Vixen same case

Fire´s powers come from mystical ritual

Black Canary´s Cry come from curse of The Wizard

What is the next rule? no characters isn´t allowed to breath and everyone is naked in space

Prime dies of cardiac arrest when he sees Wally.

Wally takes out Adam.

HP Doomsday is really inconsistent, I don't see why Hal can't blow a hole in him.

They then all team up on despero.

Lol. QFT

Villain team.

Despero can TP anyone & everyone who doesn't have the proper resistance & add them to the ranks of the Villains while the other powerhouses clean house.

Actually, Lanterns can protect others from telepathy, and John has shields capable of resisting Fernus. Despero doesn't exactly have great reaction speed, so a group of powerhouses blitzing him while not holding back should do him in. Especially if Wally steals his speed and Primes to boost himself.

@pokeysteve: I don't disagree with your outcome, but half of your information is pretty off.

For example Animal Man is not even close to street level. Especially Pre-52 where he channels the powers of the Sun Eater. The intergalactic alien that eats suns.

Despero was able to get through Hal fairly easily - and Hal's one of the top Lantern's IIRC.

As far as Despero's reaction time goes - he was able to tag Wally West with a psionic blast from his third eye, and even if Wally steals his speed [ a move that isn't too common in character for Wally, but if it happens ] then Despero's mind is still functioning and he's still fully able to use his telepathy.

Villains

@thetruebarryallen:

Despero was able to get through Hal fairly easily - and Hal's one of the top Lantern's IIRC.

Hal hadn't put him his psychic helmet up at that point.

As far as Despero's reaction time goes - he was able to tag Wally West with a psionic blast from his third eye, and even if Wally steals his speed [ a move that isn't too common in character for Wally, but if it happens ] then Despero's mind is still functioning and he's still fully able to use his telepathy.

For one thing...Wally doesn't steal speed often? I thought you read Waid and Johns runs. He does it all the time. Here, counting when Wally tried to steal Zoom's speed and stole Jay's speed that equals 13 times, and I didn't even read Waids run.

Tagging Wally with telepathy doesn't show high level reactions. In the New 52, a normal human with telepathy stopped a blitz from Superman. If a bunch of powerhouses are going at Despero at max speed, he's going down.

@highaccuser: what's to suggest that Hal would be able to put up his psychic helmet in time this time around?

As for speed stealing - it's not Wally's first reaction most of the time. The scans of him as professor zoom are a bad example considering he was doing that to trick Abra Kadabra.

As for the telepathy - he tagged him with a blast of telepathically/psychics force. He didn't use telepathy to mess with his mind, he used a TK bolt.

I'm at work though and can't respond in detail anymore.

JL

That would eventually turn his mind to mush

Not to mention that they were made for him beforehand by Ganthet and The Guardians. They aren't standard TP shields for a Green Lantern, they were a special defense measure that used the early language of the universe to prevent Fernus from using his TP on John Stewart.

I think the Justice league most powerful enemies would be along the lines of...

• Darkseid
• Despero
• Superboy Prime
• Fernus
• Zoom

The JL win against the OP's team.