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#1 Edited by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (10686 posts) - - Show Bio

JLA:

(Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Hal Jordan, Aquaman and Martian Manhunter. All New 52 versions.)

My evil anime team:

(Black Wargreymon, Lucemon(Starts Falldown mode), Sosuke Aizen(W/Hogyoku), Yami Marik(Fused with Ra, has Millennium Rod), Midora)

Round 1:

  • Both teams in character.
  • Battle is to the death/incapacitation.
  • MM is only allowed to protect his teams minds.
  • Start 200 feet away.
  • Battle is in New York.
  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

Round 2:

  • Both teams in character.
  • Battle is to the death/incapacitation.
  • MM is allowed to mentally assault the other team as well.
  • Start 200 feet away.
  • Battle is in New York.
  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

Round 3:

  • No morals for either side, they're going for the kill.
  • Battle is to the death/incapacitation.
  • Start 200 feet away.
  • Battle is in New York.
  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.
#2 Posted by Fallschirmjager (18754 posts) - - Show Bio

I haven't watched Digimon is so long to be familiar enough to comment on this battle, but I given you props for using (mostly) non-main stream anime characters =).

#3 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (10686 posts) - - Show Bio
#4 Posted by zr0c00l (856 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont know the last two can you give some feats?

#5 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (10686 posts) - - Show Bio

@zr0c00l:

Here's a wikia link for Midora, I'm not sure if it's completely up to date on what Midora can do.

http://toriko.wikia.com/wiki/Midora

As for Marik, he's kind of complicated. You'd have to look him up yourself.

#6 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (10686 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager: Out of the characters you do know, who do you think would win?

#7 Edited by Fallschirmjager (18754 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk: Anime team would probably taken round 1 because of Aizen. MM will probably need to mind-rape him to incapacitate him.

Marik is also a problem as he's kind of a low-level reality warper, being able to conjure shit from shadows and whatnot. Although this was fairly directed warping because it fell in with YUGIOH lore/rules and whatnot. still I think he might be tricky. He'd probably take someone with him, although not sure who.

Midora is kind of a brick...but I'm tempted to side with Superman or Wonder Women in any of the rounds.

I'm learning towards comic teams for rounds 2 and 3, because of MM.

#8 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (10686 posts) - - Show Bio
#9 Edited by Fallschirmjager (18754 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk: I know, but he's also never dealt with beings of the strength and speed of the JL. Not to mention several of them have some kind of TP-resistance. MM and Green Lantern for sure. And given that Aquaman has TP ability, I'd wager to bet he has some kind of resistance, although he doesn't have a feat for it

#10 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (10686 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager: I know, but it's still something he has at his disposal ^.^ He is also fused with Ra during this fight, so he gets Ra stats.

#14 Posted by scorpion2501 (6598 posts) - - Show Bio

bump.

#15 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (12349 posts) - - Show Bio
#16 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (10686 posts) - - Show Bio
#17 Posted by Saren (26016 posts) - - Show Bio
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#18 Edited by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (10686 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizenbane: Ah, sorry. Was just getting people from Jokergeist's call-out phone book.

#19 Posted by DarkRaiden (7989 posts) - - Show Bio

JLA, too fast and strong from what I know about the anime team

#20 Posted by patrat18 (10673 posts) - - Show Bio

The only anime person i know about here is Aizen, so i can't really say.

#21 Posted by Cable_Extreme (9690 posts) - - Show Bio

MM, WW, and superman are basically the decisive factors.. Batman will really help in prepping plans. I say Dc takes all rounds. Unless I am missing a game breaking feature from the anime team.

#22 Posted by AllStarSuperman (22744 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't no anything about anime

#23 Posted by NorrinBoltagonPrime21 (6296 posts) - - Show Bio

I know nothing on those anime characters, sorry.

#24 Posted by Cooldes (4145 posts) - - Show Bio
#25 Posted by Cooldes (4145 posts) - - Show Bio

@allstarsuperman: @norrinboltagonprime21: the only thing you need to know is aizen is a potential soloer.

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/aizen-vs-the-justice-league-1501473/?messageId=10454506&page=1

#26 Posted by DarkRaiden (7989 posts) - - Show Bio

@cooldes said:

@allstarsuperman: @norrinboltagonprime21: the only thing you need to know is aizen is a potential soloer.

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/aizen-vs-the-justice-league-1501473/?messageId=10454506&page=1

Except he's not. That's all overration and exaggeration.

#27 Posted by boschePG (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

@cable_extreme: @cooldes:


Round 1:

  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

Round 2:

  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

Round 3:

  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

all rounds state that they know nothing of the other team. Regardless if Superman, WW, and MM are decisive factors, according to cable_extreme in which I agree in a fist fight, the mere fact that the DC team knows nothing about Aizen's merged Kyōka Suigetsu, his shikai, would mean to me that the JL would be already under total hypnosis from jump...since the JL doesnt know about Kyoka Suigetsu.

MM and Aquaman do have TP, but Kyoka Suigetsu isnt TP. Misdirection/ total hypnosis trumps TP. TP deals with the brain and its ability. Kyoka Suigetsu (total hypnosis or misdirection) effects the parts that go to the brain to register. It effects the senses and since the brain registers what is reality by sight, sound, touch, and time, Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu is "redefining" what the brain perceives as reality. There is a rare medical syndrome were the pain receptors of the body doesnt transfer pain/ injury to the brain. It doesnt mean the person isnt hurt. It means the brain just doesnt know the body is hurt and thus if the injury is too critical, the brain will die too once the body is dead.

#28 Posted by DarkRaiden (7989 posts) - - Show Bio

@boschepg said:

@cable_extreme: @cooldes:

@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk said:

Round 1:

  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

Round 2:

  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

Round 3:

  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

all rounds state that they know nothing of the other team. Regardless if Superman, WW, and MM are decisive factors, according to cable_extreme in which I agree in a fist fight, the mere fact that the DC team knows nothing about Aizen's merged Kyōka Suigetsu, his shikai, would mean to me that the JL would be already under total hypnosis from jump...since the JL doesnt know about Kyoka Suigetsu.

MM and Aquaman do have TP, but Kyoka Suigetsu isnt TP. Misdirection/ total hypnosis trumps TP. TP deals with the brain and its ability. Kyoka Suigetsu (total hypnosis or misdirection) effects the parts that go to the brain to register. It effects the senses and since the brain registers what is reality by sight, sound, touch, and time, Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu is "redefining" what the brain perceives as reality. There is a rare medical syndrome were the pain receptors of the body doesnt transfer pain/ injury to the brain. It doesnt mean the person isnt hurt. It means the brain just doesnt know the body is hurt and thus if the injury is too critical, the brain will die too once the body is dead.

It's hypnosis, which is TP. It's never been stated to trump TP nor is it stated to be misdirection. That's just Aizen fans making stuff up.

#29 Posted by Cooldes (4145 posts) - - Show Bio

@cooldes said:

@allstarsuperman: @norrinboltagonprime21: the only thing you need to know is aizen is a potential soloer.

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/aizen-vs-the-justice-league-1501473/?messageId=10454506&page=1

Except he's not. That's all overration and exaggeration.

Except it's not. Even if MM and AquaMan have KS resistence, it'll be supes, batman, GL, Aizenand WW vs them.

#30 Posted by Cable_Extreme (9690 posts) - - Show Bio
#31 Posted by DarkRaiden (7989 posts) - - Show Bio

@cooldes said:

@darkraiden said:

@cooldes said:

@allstarsuperman: @norrinboltagonprime21: the only thing you need to know is aizen is a potential soloer.

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/aizen-vs-the-justice-league-1501473/?messageId=10454506&page=1

Except he's not. That's all overration and exaggeration.

Except it's not. Even if MM and AquaMan have KS resistence, it'll be supes, batman, GL, Aizenand WW vs them.

All Aizen has is hypnosis with no feats. It's not getting the rest of them.

#32 Posted by Cable_Extreme (9690 posts) - - Show Bio

@boschepg said:

@cable_extreme: @cooldes:

@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk said:

Round 1:

  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

Round 2:

  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

Round 3:

  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

all rounds state that they know nothing of the other team. Regardless if Superman, WW, and MM are decisive factors, according to cable_extreme in which I agree in a fist fight, the mere fact that the DC team knows nothing about Aizen's merged Kyōka Suigetsu, his shikai, would mean to me that the JL would be already under total hypnosis from jump...since the JL doesnt know about Kyoka Suigetsu.

MM and Aquaman do have TP, but Kyoka Suigetsu isnt TP. Misdirection/ total hypnosis trumps TP. TP deals with the brain and its ability. Kyoka Suigetsu (total hypnosis or misdirection) effects the parts that go to the brain to register. It effects the senses and since the brain registers what is reality by sight, sound, touch, and time, Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu is "redefining" what the brain perceives as reality. There is a rare medical syndrome were the pain receptors of the body doesnt transfer pain/ injury to the brain. It doesnt mean the person isnt hurt. It means the brain just doesnt know the body is hurt and thus if the injury is too critical, the brain will die too once the body is dead.

I would disagree with that, IF MM can read his mind and find out his plan it would be simple to overcome.

#33 Posted by Cooldes (4145 posts) - - Show Bio

@darkraiden: no feats? Please tell me you're joking...

#34 Posted by boschePG (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

It's hypnosis, which is TP. It's never been stated to trump TP nor is it stated to be misdirection. That's just Aizen fans making stuff up.

Hypnosis isnt TP. Just look at its definition:

hyp·no·sis

[hip-noh-sis] Show IPA
noun, plural hyp·no·ses [hip-noh-seez] Show IPA .
1.
an artificially induced trance state resembling sleep, characterized by heightened susceptibility to suggestion.

Misdirection misdirects the senses of a person to make them believe something is there when it isnt. Its fooling the brain. The only reason they can call it misdirection in Bleach-verse is cause Marvel defined it first, and in Marvel, TP has fooled people with TP. If it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck; its a duck.

@cooldes said:

@darkraiden said:

@cooldes said:

@allstarsuperman: @norrinboltagonprime21: the only thing you need to know is aizen is a potential soloer.

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/aizen-vs-the-justice-league-1501473/?messageId=10454506&page=1

Except he's not. That's all overration and exaggeration.

Except it's not. Even if MM and AquaMan have KS resistence, it'll be supes, batman, GL, Aizen and WW vs them.

Its just a matter of definition. Aizen wouldnt be able to solo the JL by Kido and fighting skill alone. He would make the JL fight themselves and pick off the left overs

#35 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (19517 posts) - - Show Bio

@cooldes: Remember "Wolverine can solo"?

#36 Edited by Marshall_Long (2253 posts) - - Show Bio

Aquaman and Batman shouldn't even be in this fight.

#37 Edited by Cooldes (4145 posts) - - Show Bio
#38 Posted by boschePG (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

@cooldes:

@boschepg said:

@cable_extreme: @cooldes:

@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk said:

Round 1:

  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

Round 2:

  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

Round 3:

  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

all rounds state that they know nothing of the other team. Regardless if Superman, WW, and MM are decisive factors, according to cable_extreme in which I agree in a fist fight, the mere fact that the DC team knows nothing about Aizen's merged Kyōka Suigetsu, his shikai, would mean to me that the JL would be already under total hypnosis from jump...since the JL doesnt know about Kyoka Suigetsu.

MM and Aquaman do have TP, but Kyoka Suigetsu isnt TP. Misdirection/ total hypnosis trumps TP. TP deals with the brain and its ability. Kyoka Suigetsu (total hypnosis or misdirection) effects the parts that go to the brain to register. It effects the senses and since the brain registers what is reality by sight, sound, touch, and time, Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu is "redefining" what the brain perceives as reality. There is a rare medical syndrome were the pain receptors of the body doesnt transfer pain/ injury to the brain. It doesnt mean the person isnt hurt. It means the brain just doesnt know the body is hurt and thus if the injury is too critical, the brain will die too once the body is dead.

I would disagree with that, IF MM can read his mind and find out his plan it would be simple to overcome.

Me and Cooldes are saying that the simple fact that once you see Aizen you are under his power. MM can think he is in Aizen's mind, but much like Marvel has shown, it reacts faster than TP cuz the brain defines whats reality by the senses. TP moves at the speed of thought. Meaning if I were to initiate it I would my brain would have to think to use it. In that time, Aizens hypnosis is instant now

#39 Posted by Pokeysteve (8532 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't recognize one name from that anime team. Not a one.

#40 Posted by Wolverine08 (45065 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't recognize one name from that anime team. Not a one.

I'm glad I'm not the only one.

#41 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@boschepg:so how did ichigo beat aizen,he was inmine to hypnosis?,hypnosis won't work on a TP of MM level,and if wonder woman's power set is the same,she she is still inmune tyo hypnosis and illussions because of the lasso of truth.

#42 Posted by Dratini1331 (7040 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior: Aizen wasn't using Kyouka suigetsu at first IIRC, also, as it was absorbed into aizen, meaning he should count as the blade, and therefore, touching aizen nullifies kyouka. In theory at least.

@darkraiden: It's not really hypnosis either, as it has no control over their brain directly :/ Though I suppose that's what it's closest too.

#43 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior: Aizen wasn't using Kyouka suigetsu at first IIRC, also, as it was absorbed into aizen, meaning he should count as the blade, and therefore, touching aizen nullifies kyouka. In theory at least.

@darkraiden: It's not really hypnosis either, as it has no control over their brain directly :/ Though I suppose that's what it's closest too.

anyway,he isn't passing thorough MM TP powers.

#44 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (10686 posts) - - Show Bio

Anime team has Marik for TP as well. Midora has 'hungry space', that eats things at an atomic level, as well as it can be assumed he has conduct of the king since he was one of Acacia's students. Lucemon is not a joke either, he was casually pile-driving people into large moons(while breaking them in the process) without even trying,and has force fields as well as teleportation.

#45 Posted by DarkRaiden (7989 posts) - - Show Bio

@boschepg: IN comics, they function under the same defense. So they're the same.

@cooldes said:

@darkraiden: no feats? Please tell me you're joking...

Whart feats does he have? Has he done it to anyone with TP resistance? No? no feats then.

#46 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (10686 posts) - - Show Bio

JLA, too fast and strong from what I know about the anime team

Lucemon was casually pile-driving people into a rather large moon, causing to to break in the process. The resulting shockwave destroyed 2 more moons, of which Lucemon was in the blast. He walked off like nothing happened. He also flew from the center of the digital world to the moons in seconds btw.

#47 Posted by Cable_Extreme (9690 posts) - - Show Bio

@boschepg said:

@cooldes:

@cable_extreme said:

@boschepg said:

@cable_extreme: @cooldes:

@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk said:

Round 1:

  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

Round 2:

  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

Round 3:

  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

all rounds state that they know nothing of the other team. Regardless if Superman, WW, and MM are decisive factors, according to cable_extreme in which I agree in a fist fight, the mere fact that the DC team knows nothing about Aizen's merged Kyōka Suigetsu, his shikai, would mean to me that the JL would be already under total hypnosis from jump...since the JL doesnt know about Kyoka Suigetsu.

MM and Aquaman do have TP, but Kyoka Suigetsu isnt TP. Misdirection/ total hypnosis trumps TP. TP deals with the brain and its ability. Kyoka Suigetsu (total hypnosis or misdirection) effects the parts that go to the brain to register. It effects the senses and since the brain registers what is reality by sight, sound, touch, and time, Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu is "redefining" what the brain perceives as reality. There is a rare medical syndrome were the pain receptors of the body doesnt transfer pain/ injury to the brain. It doesnt mean the person isnt hurt. It means the brain just doesnt know the body is hurt and thus if the injury is too critical, the brain will die too once the body is dead.

I would disagree with that, IF MM can read his mind and find out his plan it would be simple to overcome.

Me and Cooldes are saying that the simple fact that once you see Aizen you are under his power. MM can think he is in Aizen's mind, but much like Marvel has shown, it reacts faster than TP cuz the brain defines whats reality by the senses. TP moves at the speed of thought. Meaning if I were to initiate it I would my brain would have to think to use it. In that time, Aizens hypnosis is instant now

The problem with your arguement is that MM, Superman, and WW have the power to speed blitz. MM has a fast reaction time, much faster than Aizen, so he statistically would be the first to use his powers. Superman is even able to react so fast that a second feels like hours. I don't see this being a problem, and you are also incredibly hyping up Aizen's power. Just because someone is hallucinating, remember that Batman deals with that quite a lot vs scarecrow, it doesn't mean that they are not aware that it is a hallucination.

#48 Posted by Cable_Extreme (9690 posts) - - Show Bio

@boschepg said:

@cable_extreme: @cooldes:

@the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk said:

Round 1:

  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

Round 2:

  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

Round 3:

  • 1 hour prep, they know nothing of the other team though.

all rounds state that they know nothing of the other team. Regardless if Superman, WW, and MM are decisive factors, according to cable_extreme in which I agree in a fist fight, the mere fact that the DC team knows nothing about Aizen's merged Kyōka Suigetsu, his shikai, would mean to me that the JL would be already under total hypnosis from jump...since the JL doesnt know about Kyoka Suigetsu.

MM and Aquaman do have TP, but Kyoka Suigetsu isnt TP. Misdirection/ total hypnosis trumps TP. TP deals with the brain and its ability. Kyoka Suigetsu (total hypnosis or misdirection) effects the parts that go to the brain to register. It effects the senses and since the brain registers what is reality by sight, sound, touch, and time, Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu is "redefining" what the brain perceives as reality. There is a rare medical syndrome were the pain receptors of the body doesnt transfer pain/ injury to the brain. It doesnt mean the person isnt hurt. It means the brain just doesnt know the body is hurt and thus if the injury is too critical, the brain will die too once the body is dead.

It's hypnosis, which is TP. It's never been stated to trump TP nor is it stated to be misdirection. That's just Aizen fans making stuff up.

That an MM can easily tell what Aizen is up to and inform the rest of the JLM that they are in a hallucination.

#49 Edited by Cooldes (4145 posts) - - Show Bio

@cable_extreme: MM tells the rest of the JLA they're in a hallucination. So? Aizen's shikai works regardless of people knowing you're in it or not. It was stated ALOT. it's complete hypnosis and there is no way out, even if you know you're in it you're trapped.

MM say's "Hey! The REAL Aizen is over there! *points to aizen*"

how do the JLA know that that isn't actually aizen talking to them? how do the JLA know that MM isn't actually pointing at them? how do the JLA know if that's what MM even really said? aizen has complete sensory control. they won't know if a rock is a tree as long as aizen is there.

#50 Edited by FlashGreaterSignEveryone (1067 posts) - - Show Bio

round 1: anime

round 2: JLA

round 3: JLA