My argument is none of them can KILL GR. Only a holy weapon can put him down. I know GR Isn't gonna beat all them by himself. But at the same time there isn't much they can do to the rider either. The OP says no BFR by the way. And none of them is immune to the penance stare.@ghost_rider1 said:
@Immortal777How are they gonna incapacitate GR??? I'm wide open for ideas right now and ill counter every thing u say.@ghost_rider1 said:
@Ancient_0f_DaysOk since he loses let's have a debate. How does he lose????@ghost_rider1 said:
@Immortal777GR being their punching battle isn't gonna do anything to him. PHYSICAL DAMAGE CAN'T BEAT GR!!! ONLY A WEAPON FORGED FROM HEAVEN CAN HURT HIM. If they dnt hav that then EVENTUALLY the JLA will lose or jus giv up becuz of GR inability to die by conventional methodsGR gonna end up as a punching bag for the JLA.
lol Caps rage .... calm down, we see ghost rider in your name, we know you will defend him to the death .... he loses here
Incapacitation
Counter? or deny ......... BFR, Lasso (hellfire aint nothin to WW, she withstood fire from hades), Green Lantern putting him in a green box, Martian Manhunter BFRing him with TK .... among other things .,..
JLA takes on Ghost Rider
And none of them can kill GR. Read up on GR! Only a holy weapon can put him down. Physical damage has no effectSuperman =Superman
Wonder Woman = Girl Superman
Batman = Prep Superman
Green Lantern = Superman with a ring
Flash = Fast Superman
Martian Manhunter = Green Superman
Aquaman = Water Superman
Green Arrow = Not Superman
Black Canary = Girl Wonder Woman
Hawkman = Superman with wings
Ghost Rider is toast
@ghost_rider1 said:
@Ancient_0f_DaysMy argument is none of them can KILL GR. Only a holy weapon can put him down. I know GR Isn't gonna beat all them by himself. But at the same time there isn't much they can do to the rider either. The OP says no BFR by the way. And none of them is immune to the penance stare.@ghost_rider1 said:
@Immortal777How are they gonna incapacitate GR??? I'm wide open for ideas right now and ill counter every thing u say.@ghost_rider1 said:
@Ancient_0f_DaysOk since he loses let's have a debate. How does he lose????@ghost_rider1 said:
@Immortal777GR being their punching battle isn't gonna do anything to him. PHYSICAL DAMAGE CAN'T BEAT GR!!! ONLY A WEAPON FORGED FROM HEAVEN CAN HURT HIM. If they dnt hav that then EVENTUALLY the JLA will lose or jus giv up becuz of GR inability to die by conventional methodsGR gonna end up as a punching bag for the JLA.
lol Caps rage .... calm down, we see ghost rider in your name, we know you will defend him to the death .... he loses here
Incapacitation
Counter? or deny ......... BFR, Lasso (hellfire aint nothin to WW, she withstood fire from hades), Green Lantern putting him in a green box, Martian Manhunter BFRing him with TK .... among other things .,..
GR isn't immune to getting incapacitated.
@society619 said:
Superman =Superman
Wonder Woman = Girl Superman
Batman = Prep Superman
Green Lantern = Superman with a ring
Flash = Fast
Superman(still can't fly)Martian Manhunter = Green Superman
Aquaman =
Water Superman(can't fly, not as durable, not as fast, not as strong)Green Arrow = Not Superman
Black Canary = Girl
Wonder Woman(can't fly, not as strong, not as fast, not as durable, not as skilled)Hawkman =
Supermanwith wings (same as Aquaman)Ghost Rider is toast
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@society619 said:
Superman =Superman
Wonder Woman = Girl Superman
Batman = Prep Superman
Green Lantern = Superman with a ring
Flash = Fast Superman
Martian Manhunter = Green Superman
Aquaman = Water Superman
Green Arrow = Not Superman
Black Canary = Girl Wonder Woman
Hawkman = Superman with wings
Ghost Rider is toast
This might be the funniest thing i've heeard all day hahaha. Everyone is superman but green arrow xD.
@ghost_rider1 said:
@Ancient_0f_DaysMy argument is none of them can KILL GR. Only a holy weapon can put him down. I know GR Isn't gonna beat all them by himself. But at the same time there isn't much they can do to the rider either. The OP says no BFR by the way. And none of them is immune to the penance stare.@ghost_rider1 said:
@Immortal777How are they gonna incapacitate GR??? I'm wide open for ideas right now and ill counter every thing u say.@ghost_rider1 said:
@Ancient_0f_DaysOk since he loses let's have a debate. How does he lose????@ghost_rider1 said:
@Immortal777GR being their punching battle isn't gonna do anything to him. PHYSICAL DAMAGE CAN'T BEAT GR!!! ONLY A WEAPON FORGED FROM HEAVEN CAN HURT HIM. If they dnt hav that then EVENTUALLY the JLA will lose or jus giv up becuz of GR inability to die by conventional methodsGR gonna end up as a punching bag for the JLA.
lol Caps rage .... calm down, we see ghost rider in your name, we know you will defend him to the death .... he loses here
Incapacitation
Counter? or deny ......... BFR, Lasso (hellfire aint nothin to WW, she withstood fire from hades), Green Lantern putting him in a green box, Martian Manhunter BFRing him with TK .... among other things .,..
ok ... thats why they dont have to kill him, but if you insist ..... Hawkman solos since his Nth metal hammer disrupts magic and can put Johnny out ......
Ok, if y'all say so. And by the way, hellfire burns the victims soul not jus ur physical body and if they o use him as a puncing bag he wil expell hellfire from all over his body and burn their souls. Hellfire worked on WWH it will work on WW. I'm done here all of u are sayin the same thing. Punching bag, punching bag, punching bag and lasso.
@Ancient_0f_Days said:
@society619 said:
Superman =Superman
Wonder Woman = Girl Superman
Batman = Prep Superman
Green Lantern = Doesn't have any of Superman's stats
Flash = Fast
Superman(still can't fly)Martian Manhunter = Green Superman
Aquaman =
Water Superman(can't fly, not as durable, not as fast, not as strong)Green Arrow = Not Superman
Black Canary = Girl
Wonder Woman(can't fly, not as strong, not as fast, not as durable, not as skilled)Hawkman =
Supermanwith wings (same as Aquaman)Ghost Rider is toast
fixed
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That is mere speculation. And I highly highly doubt that would happen. U can't jus turn him back human. If zarathos takes over and uses his full powers hawkman is gonna die@ghost_rider1 said:
@Ancient_0f_DaysMy argument is none of them can KILL GR. Only a holy weapon can put him down. I know GR Isn't gonna beat all them by himself. But at the same time there isn't much they can do to the rider either. The OP says no BFR by the way. And none of them is immune to the penance stare.@ghost_rider1 said:
@Immortal777How are they gonna incapacitate GR??? I'm wide open for ideas right now and ill counter every thing u say.@ghost_rider1 said:
@Ancient_0f_DaysOk since he loses let's have a debate. How does he lose????@ghost_rider1 said:
@Immortal777GR being their punching battle isn't gonna do anything to him. PHYSICAL DAMAGE CAN'T BEAT GR!!! ONLY A WEAPON FORGED FROM HEAVEN CAN HURT HIM. If they dnt hav that then EVENTUALLY the JLA will lose or jus giv up becuz of GR inability to die by conventional methodsGR gonna end up as a punching bag for the JLA.
lol Caps rage .... calm down, we see ghost rider in your name, we know you will defend him to the death .... he loses here
Incapacitation
Counter? or deny ......... BFR, Lasso (hellfire aint nothin to WW, she withstood fire from hades), Green Lantern putting him in a green box, Martian Manhunter BFRing him with TK .... among other things .,..
ok ... thats why they dont have to kill him, but if you insist ..... Hawkman solos since his Nth metal hammer disrupts magic and can put Johnny out ......
GR can travel between realms he can always get back into the fightCouldn't they do the same thing they did to the Black Lanterns and send him to the core of the Earth where he will be trapped and burned forever after beating the crap out of him?
@ghost_rider1 said:
@society619And none of them can kill GR. Read up on GR! Only a holy weapon can put him down. Physical damage has no effectSuperman =Superman
Wonder Woman = Girl Superman
Batman = Prep Superman
Green Lantern = Superman with a ring
Flash = Fast Superman
Martian Manhunter = Green Superman
Aquaman = Water Superman
Green Arrow = Not Superman
Black Canary = Girl Wonder Woman
Hawkman = Superman with wings
Ghost Rider is toast
Read up on JLA. Wonder Woman's lasso is forged and enchanted by the gods.
Ok, now that's a valid argument. That means her lasso is supernatural. Everyone else was talking about using him as a punching bag to beat him and I was sayin that beating him that way is impossible.@ghost_rider1 said:
@society619And none of them can kill GR. Read up on GR! Only a holy weapon can put him down. Physical damage has no effectSuperman =Superman
Wonder Woman = Girl Superman
Batman = Prep Superman
Green Lantern = Superman with a ring
Flash = Fast Superman
Martian Manhunter = Green Superman
Aquaman = Water Superman
Green Arrow = Not Superman
Black Canary = Girl Wonder Woman
Hawkman = Superman with wings
Ghost Rider is toast
Read up on JLA. Wonder Woman's lasso is forged and enchanted by the gods.
@ghost_rider1 said:
@ShootingNovaOk, now that's a valid argument. That means her lasso is supernatural. Everyone else was talking about using him as a punching bag to beat him and I was sayin that beating him that way is impossible.@ghost_rider1 said:
@society619And none of them can kill GR. Read up on GR! Only a holy weapon can put him down. Physical damage has no effectSuperman =Superman
Wonder Woman = Girl Superman
Batman = Prep Superman
Green Lantern = Superman with a ring
Flash = Fast Superman
Martian Manhunter = Green Superman
Aquaman = Water Superman
Green Arrow = Not Superman
Black Canary = Girl Wonder Woman
Hawkman = Superman with wings
Ghost Rider is toast
Read up on JLA. Wonder Woman's lasso is forged and enchanted by the gods.
Okay, so now you know it is an applicable weapon.
Yea I know that now.@ghost_rider1 said:
@ShootingNovaOk, now that's a valid argument. That means her lasso is supernatural. Everyone else was talking about using him as a punching bag to beat him and I was sayin that beating him that way is impossible.@ghost_rider1 said:
@society619And none of them can kill GR. Read up on GR! Only a holy weapon can put him down. Physical damage has no effectSuperman =Superman
Wonder Woman = Girl Superman
Batman = Prep Superman
Green Lantern = Superman with a ring
Flash = Fast Superman
Martian Manhunter = Green Superman
Aquaman = Water Superman
Green Arrow = Not Superman
Black Canary = Girl Wonder Woman
Hawkman = Superman with wings
Ghost Rider is toast
Read up on JLA. Wonder Woman's lasso is forged and enchanted by the gods.
Okay, so now you know it is an applicable weapon.
Ghost rider would definately lose against all of them.@ghost_rider1: So whose side are you on now?
@ghost_rider1 said:
@ShootingNovaYea I know that now.@ghost_rider1 said:
@ShootingNovaOk, now that's a valid argument. That means her lasso is supernatural. Everyone else was talking about using him as a punching bag to beat him and I was sayin that beating him that way is impossible.@ghost_rider1 said:
@society619And none of them can kill GR. Read up on GR! Only a holy weapon can put him down. Physical damage has no effectSuperman =Superman
Wonder Woman = Girl Superman
Batman = Prep Superman
Green Lantern = Superman with a ring
Flash = Fast Superman
Martian Manhunter = Green Superman
Aquaman = Water Superman
Green Arrow = Not Superman
Black Canary = Girl Wonder Woman
Hawkman = Superman with wings
Ghost Rider is toast
Read up on JLA. Wonder Woman's lasso is forged and enchanted by the gods.
Okay, so now you know it is an applicable weapon.
Ghost Rider can't beat an army of Supermans....and Green Arrow
@Ancient_0f_Days said:
@ghost_rider1 said:
I see all those JLA. And I hav come to the conclusion that none of them can keep the rider down. The ONLY thing that can take down GR is an holy weapon. I dnt think any of them hav a holy weapon. GR WinsLasso of Truth ftw ............ Wonder Woman solos
Wondy is at least able to tie up Ghost Rider. I'd say the battle ends when Ghost Rider tries to use the Penance Stare
on Batman and he gets is a$$ countered.
I could literally count off ten different ways off the top of my head that the JLA smashes GR into bone dust.
@eatmore_payless said:
Supes will BFR him into the sun.
....yeah i'm not sure throwing a hellspawn into the sun is going to get the job done.
@ghost_rider1:
I see all those JLA. And I hav come to the conclusion that none of them can keep the rider down. The ONLY thing that can take down GR is an holy weapon. I dnt think any of them hav a holy weapon. GR Wins
Laugh if u want to. I'm being honest none of them can kill the rider. Unless u know something I dnt know. Which one of them can keep GR down?
~~~
Please explain to me how, The Ghost Rider can win this.
Most of the JLA, all they have to do is travel at the Speed of Light and Ghost Rider, is completely done for. Almost anything the Ghost Rider does, is not as fast as the Speed of Light.
While Ghost Rider has been stated to be nearly unstoppable with the Spirit of Vengeance totally in control, we haven't really seen the extent of that so it's hard to tell. Even if he is more powerful than any one member of the JLA, he isn't fighting just one, he's fighting them all. So even if they can't hurt him or put him down, I can't see him overcoming the numbers advantage. The JLA could just bounce him around without doing any real damage, essentially incapacitating him since he'd be unable to fight back. Going to lean JLA on this one.
Due to Superman's vulnerability to magic/the supernatural, GR could take him out, but WW, having powers that are divine in nature, could probably take down GR.
Multiple Things
1) Ghost Rider Wins
2) The Pentace Stare wouldn't turn The Flash into a vegetable, It would right out Kill him
The Justice League win.
With the numbers advantage on their side, the JL wont have to worry about the penance stare as Ghost Rider wont have the chance to use it before someone knocks him down. It probably wont work on Green lantern due to his shield, and I highly doubt it would work on Wonder Woman considering she is the physical manifestation of War, and a god.
Also thanks to Wonder Woman, the team has a variety of divine weaponry. Her sword will definitely hurt Ghost Rider seeing as it is divine and magical in nature.
Should I answer the nearly 3 year old bait thread?
Sure..
Since when has the Penance Stare worked on heroes? With the possible exception of Green Lantern, Zarathos wouldn't even bother with this, and without his backing, none of the Riders have a chance against Wonder Woman, and the rest help soften him up.
Now even if you throw Flash in there, they'd all have to fight like an SOB to keep the Rider off Hal, but if he takes his Hellfire medicine like a good boy, Rider rides away.
@klaus: GR can soul burn with hellfire.That means penance stare is not needed, he can create hellfire nova and storm.Hellifre soul burn also means it doesn't matter what you are or whether you regret it or not(proven against those who didn't gave a sht, yet they still got owned).
@ghostrider2: And what is stopping GL from shielding his teammates with constructs, Aquaman flooding away the fire, or Superman from blowing it away, or WW (who didn't have a problem fighting her way through Hades and is magic resistant) from deflecting it?
And it does matter what you are. Has hellfire ever been shown to work on a god? Especially a god of War. And can it work before WW speedblitzes GRs head of with her divine atom splitting sword?
@klaus: cool GR wins since they can't fight while shielded.Seriously though GR kinda stomped the avengers with Dr Strange recently.Is the god of war supposed to mean something when GR laughed at Thor.Thor with the avengers where powerless twice(to my knowledge).Even Strange said he can't protect them for long.
@ghostrider2: Did Ghost Rider use the Penance stare on Thor? Was this Worthy Thor? Im not using the God of War thing as a way to gauge Dianas power, I'm using it as a counter to the Penance stare and Hell fire. Have those abilities worked on Gods?
Is Ghost Rider stomping the Avengers supposed to mean something? This line-up of Leaguers would also stomp the Avengers. Also the difference is that the Justice League actually have the means to kill Ghost Rider through divine weaponry. Diana has her own sword forged by Hephaestus. A lasso of truth, and she can summon a dozen other weapons from her bracelets and hand them out to her teammates. Imagine Superman and MMH with god-killing spears and shields.
The Justice League win.
With the numbers advantage on their side, the JL wont have to worry about the penance stare as Ghost Rider wont have the chance to use it before someone knocks him down. It probably wont work on Green lantern due to his shield, and I highly doubt it would work on Wonder Woman considering she is the physical manifestation of War, and a god.
Also thanks to Wonder Woman, the team has a variety of divine weaponry. Her sword will definitely hurt Ghost Rider seeing as it is divine and magical in nature.
I thought a divine weapon mean forged or anointed by God himself,
not by wonder womans fake ass gods
@strawhatluffy: A Divine weapon is a weapon created by any Deity, in fused with magical or mystical abilities. Just google it. Many pantheons have their own divine weapons, like the divine mace of Vishnu, or the Aegis of Athena. This is comic book world, in DC the Greek gods are real and divine. Like it or not.
@klaus: yes he was worthy.
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