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#1  Edited By OmegaDynasty

Justice League Animated Amazo appears in Marvel, who is the strongest character that Amazo can take on with and without copying their power set? 

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#2  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

From that picture, the following can beat him:
 
Dr. Doom
Dr. Strange
Jean (if she has Phoenix) 
HoM Scarlet Witch
Ghost Rider (maybe)

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#3  Edited By OmegaDynasty
@JediXMan said:
From that picture, the following can beat him:  Dr. Doom Dr. Strange Jean (if she has Phoenix)  HoM Scarlet Witch Ghost Rider (maybe)
I didn't mean just from the picture, I meant from Marvel it's self. Not sure if Amazo can copy magic, wouldn't think he can. The only impressive thing I saw from him is warp Oa into another dimension. 
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#4  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@OmegaDynasty said:
@JediXMan said:
From that picture, the following can beat him:  Dr. Doom Dr. Strange Jean (if she has Phoenix)  HoM Scarlet Witch Ghost Rider (maybe)
I didn't mean just from the picture, I meant from Marvel it's self. Not sure if Amazo can copy magic, wouldn't think he can. The only impressive thing I saw from him is warp Oa into another dimension. 
He did two things with magic:
 
1. Copied Hawkgirl's mace.
2. Had difficulty against Grundy, due to the chaos magic around him. Grundy began draining Amazo.
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#5  Edited By OmegaDynasty
@JediXMan said:
@OmegaDynasty said:
@JediXMan said:
From that picture, the following can beat him:  Dr. Doom Dr. Strange Jean (if she has Phoenix)  HoM Scarlet Witch Ghost Rider (maybe)
I didn't mean just from the picture, I meant from Marvel it's self. Not sure if Amazo can copy magic, wouldn't think he can. The only impressive thing I saw from him is warp Oa into another dimension. 
He did two things with magic:  1. Copied Hawkgirl's mace. 2. Had difficulty against Grundy, due to the chaos magic around him. Grundy began draining Amazo.
I wouldn't really say Hawk Girl's mace is magic, it's metal that disrupts magic with it's properties among st other things. 
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#6  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@OmegaDynasty said:
@JediXMan said:
@OmegaDynasty said:
@JediXMan said:
From that picture, the following can beat him:  Dr. Doom Dr. Strange Jean (if she has Phoenix)  HoM Scarlet Witch Ghost Rider (maybe)
I didn't mean just from the picture, I meant from Marvel it's self. Not sure if Amazo can copy magic, wouldn't think he can. The only impressive thing I saw from him is warp Oa into another dimension. 
He did two things with magic:  1. Copied Hawkgirl's mace. 2. Had difficulty against Grundy, due to the chaos magic around him. Grundy began draining Amazo.
I wouldn't really say Hawk Girl's mace is magic, it's metal that disrupts magic with it's properties among st other things. 
Well that's true. 
 
So the only time he interacted with magic that we know of, it didn't work out well. Maybe it has to do with the type of magic, but we don't have anything else to compare the feat to.
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#7  Edited By OmegaDynasty
@JediXMan said:
@OmegaDynasty said:
@JediXMan said:
@OmegaDynasty said:
@JediXMan said:
From that picture, the following can beat him:  Dr. Doom Dr. Strange Jean (if she has Phoenix)  HoM Scarlet Witch Ghost Rider (maybe)
I didn't mean just from the picture, I meant from Marvel it's self. Not sure if Amazo can copy magic, wouldn't think he can. The only impressive thing I saw from him is warp Oa into another dimension. 
He did two things with magic:  1. Copied Hawkgirl's mace. 2. Had difficulty against Grundy, due to the chaos magic around him. Grundy began draining Amazo.
I wouldn't really say Hawk Girl's mace is magic, it's metal that disrupts magic with it's properties among st other things. 
Well that's true.   So the only time he interacted with magic that we know of, it didn't work out well. Maybe it has to do with the type of magic, but we don't have anything else to compare the feat to.
Couldn't he use that as a defense against magical attacks. Just saying hypotheticaly he can't deal with magic he has a weapon, and speed(Flash) and Power(Superman/Wonder Woman) to put some serious damage on magic users?
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#8  Edited By TheBatman586

I don't think JLU Amazo ever displayed anything higher than mid-level Herald powers. In that case, the following could win:
 
Ghost Rider (maybe) 
Thor
Dr. Strange 
Dr. Doom w/prep
Reed Richards w/prep
Iron Man w/prep
Black Panther w/prep
Daimon Hellstrom (maybe)

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#9  Edited By Outside_85

Just to point out something, Luthor who was infused with Brainiac at the time couldnt prep his way out of Amazo's way.

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#10  Edited By odinforce
@TheBatman586: This "golden" Amazo was very powerful. He defeated the GL corps and the Justice League. 
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He defeated the cartoon versions, which are way weaker than the comic versions...
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#12  Edited By Goyo77

Dr. Strange would stop him. I think Adam Strange could too. 

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Doctor Strange can figure out to defeat him.. 
same goes with Reed Richards and Doctor Doom.. 
Wanda Maximoff at the height of her powers would blink Amazo out of existence.. 
Jean would not even concern herself with him.. 

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#14  Edited By odinforce
@TheBatman586: Of course, but still powerful nonetheless. He still has the power to for example, BFR an entire planet into another Dimension with just a thought.
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Golden Amazo from the television series has no chance against the comic version of the Marvel Universe. Many of the mid- to high level characters could defeat him.
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#16  Edited By odinforce
@The_Mayhem_Theory: Amazo seemed to be immune from great physical harm, and BFR'd an entire planet into another dimension easily and brought it back with just a thought.
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#17  Edited By Outside_85
@The_Mayhem_Theory: Considering the entire JLA and dozens of GL's or the guardians didnt even slow him down.
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#18  Edited By GreenLanternFan


the reason Amazo is weak to magic is because when he copied superman he gained his weaknesses as well.  I think Amazo pwns anyone personally, I mean he has unlimited potential when it comes to getting the edge.  and whoever you stack against him not only has to deal with their own capabilities but the capabilities of tons of other heroes.  i dont see why amazo couldnt copy the ability to cast spells, or  copy other types of power. he could copy MMH and invis himself, as well as generate contructs like GL. he isnt called amazo just for the hell of it.  a good example would be this

 

lets say amazo runs into trion juggs, amazo scans juggs and gains his level of ability and power. now you are esentially fighting a trion jugg clone. not including any other abilities he might have, lets say now he gains flight and speed as well as contructs, it gets rediculous.

 

the only way that amazo could be beaten is if he is the one from young justice who can only access one power at a time. or if Batman is around, since bats is the one who is always laying the smackdown on him.

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@odinforce said:
@The_Mayhem_Theory: Amazo seemed to be immune from great physical harm, and BFR'd an entire planet into another dimension easily and brought it back with just a thought.
@Outside_85 said:
@The_Mayhem_Theory: Considering the entire JLA and dozens of GL's or the guardians didnt even slow him down.
As much as I concur on these responses, we also have to acknowledge the fact that the DC Universe isn't as similar to the Marvel Universe. Absorbing Man was able to replicate Sentry's powers, yet Sentry completely warped him. That thought alone leads me to believe that Amazo, if he were to come across Sentry, would get his arse handed to him. Granted, Amazo knows how to use his abilities to their full potential, I just don't see him having the same experience level with them. I could be wrong here, but isn't Amazo somewhat shy on experience when first absorbing said abilities?
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#20  Edited By odinforce
@The_Mayhem_Theory said:
@odinforce said:
@The_Mayhem_Theory: Amazo seemed to be immune from great physical harm, and BFR'd an entire planet into another dimension easily and brought it back with just a thought.
@Outside_85 said:
@The_Mayhem_Theory: Considering the entire JLA and dozens of GL's or the guardians didnt even slow him down.
As much as I concur on these responses, we also have to acknowledge the fact that the DC Universe isn't as similar to the Marvel Universe. Absorbing Man was able to replicate Sentry's powers, yet Sentry completely warped him. That thought alone leads me to believe that Amazo, if he were to come across Sentry, would get his arse handed to him. Granted, Amazo knows how to use his abilities to their full potential, I just don't see him having the same experience level with them. I could be wrong here, but isn't Amazo somewhat shy on experience when first absorbing said abilities?
No not this Amazo, he evolved throughout his travels in the galaxies and grew to be very smart.
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@TheBatman586 said:
I don't think JLU Amazo ever displayed anything higher than mid-level Herald powers. In that case, the following could win:  Ghost Rider (maybe)  Thor Dr. Strange  Dr. Doom w/prep Reed Richards w/prep Iron Man w/prep Black Panther w/prep Daimon Hellstrom (maybe)
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#22  Edited By Outside_85
@The_Mayhem_Theory: Not really, the first time the League fought him he instantly adapted their powers into his own system like having no trouble adapting to running at the speeds of the Flash or having the Martian Manhunters telepathy that had blown a fuse in the first episode. The only weakness he might have is the same as those who's powers he absorbs and is left unaware that he has a weakness, like Batman chasing him away with a piece of Kryptonite after Amazo had absorbed Superman's powers.
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#23  Edited By Petey_is_Spidey

i know this thread is kinda old but marvel kills him. There are people who can solo for example: 
 
silver surfer 
thanos 
galactus 
odin 
zeus 
apocalypse  
and those are just a few.

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#24  Edited By bigcimmerian
@OmegaDynasty said:
@JediXMan said:
From that picture, the following can beat him:  Dr. Doom Dr. Strange Jean (if she has Phoenix)  HoM Scarlet Witch Ghost Rider (maybe)
I didn't mean just from the picture, I meant from Marvel it's self. Not sure if Amazo can copy magic, wouldn't think he can. The only impressive thing I saw from him is warp Oa into another dimension. 
If you meant everyone, than following people could beat him 
 
Thanos 
Odin 
Zeus 
Galactus 
Eternity 
Silver Surfer 
Doctor Strange 
All fathers Thor and Hercules 
I could write till tommorow :)
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Ghost Rider (maybe) 
Thor
Dr. Strange 
Dr. Doom w/prep
Reed Richards w/prep
Iron Man w/prep
Black Panther w/prep
Daimon Hellstrom (maybe)  
World Breaker Hulk 
Quasar 
Iceman
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#26  Edited By OmegaDynasty
@venomoushatred1001 said:
Ghost Rider (maybe)  Thor Dr. Strange  Dr. Doom w/prep Reed Richards w/prep Iron Man w/prep Black Panther w/prep Daimon Hellstrom (maybe)  World Breaker Hulk Quasar Iceman
Not sure about the Hulk, he was going to teleport Grundy into the sun with his powers but like mentioned the Chaost Magic sucked his powers. So..Hulk has no Chaos Magic so he gets a free ride to the center of the sun.
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@OmegaDynasty said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
Ghost Rider (maybe)  Thor Dr. Strange  Dr. Doom w/prep Reed Richards w/prep Iron Man w/prep Black Panther w/prep Daimon Hellstrom (maybe)  World Breaker Hulk Quasar Iceman
Not sure about the Hulk, he was going to teleport Grundy into the sun with his powers but like mentioned the Chaost Magic sucked his powers. So..Hulk has no Chaos Magic so he gets a free ride to the center of the sun.

Then ingnore Hulk :)
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#28  Edited By OmegaDynasty
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@OmegaDynasty said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
Ghost Rider (maybe)  Thor Dr. Strange  Dr. Doom w/prep Reed Richards w/prep Iron Man w/prep Black Panther w/prep Daimon Hellstrom (maybe)  World Breaker Hulk Quasar Iceman
Not sure about the Hulk, he was going to teleport Grundy into the sun with his powers but like mentioned the Chaost Magic sucked his powers. So..Hulk has no Chaos Magic so he gets a free ride to the center of the sun.
Then ingnore Hulk :)
What about Iceman? Not sure how well he would fair against the sun. Or how he would get back.
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@OmegaDynasty said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@OmegaDynasty said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
Ghost Rider (maybe)  Thor Dr. Strange  Dr. Doom w/prep Reed Richards w/prep Iron Man w/prep Black Panther w/prep Daimon Hellstrom (maybe)  World Breaker Hulk Quasar Iceman
Not sure about the Hulk, he was going to teleport Grundy into the sun with his powers but like mentioned the Chaost Magic sucked his powers. So..Hulk has no Chaos Magic so he gets a free ride to the center of the sun.
Then ingnore Hulk :)
What about Iceman? Not sure how well he would fair against the sun. Or how he would get back.

If he reaches absolute zero, I think it can stop his systems.
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What if he starts absorbing their powers, everyones speed, everyones strength, everyones agility and reaction time. Theres a reason they call him God Amazo

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@dondave said:

@ultimus45 The OP states that he can't.

Actually, the op says "who is the strongest character that Amazo can take on with and without copying their power set?"

Sorry, I know this is really old and I should not have bumped it....but I had to. I have been wanting to say that for months.

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@saul_d said:
@dondave said:

@ultimus45 The OP states that he can't.

Actually, the op says "who is the strongest character that Amazo can take on with and without copying their power set?"

@dondave said:

@ultimus45 The OP states that he can't.

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@saul_d said:
@dondave said:

@ultimus45 The OP states that he can't.

Actually, the op says "who is the strongest character that Amazo can take on with and without copying their power set?"

@dondave said:

@ultimus45 The OP states that he can't.

Then it is bad grammar. If he meant to say "Take on with, and without copying their powers" That is a terrible sentence. I read it as "Take on, with and without copying their powers" Since that would be a better sentence. I assumed he was asking for multiple scenarios.

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#36  Edited By Ancient_0f_Days

@saul_d: regardless, you bumped the thread solely due to the fact that you were confused by a grammatical error....

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@ancient_0f_days: Well, thanks for crushing all of my hopes and dreams. But you have to admit, my point on the grammar makes sense. I don't recall it being addressed anywhere else in the thread, except being brought up in the Trion Juggs example.

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#38  Edited By Ancient_0f_Days

@saul_d: That's because everyone who saw it either didn't know/care that there was an error or they saw it and still were able to figure out what it meant ........

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@ancient_0f_days: I guess that makes me a big dummy. But I don't care, I said what I wanted to say. And it was really to point out the error.

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There's no error. He would have simply said "is the strongest character that Amazo can take on without copying their power set?"

He clearly said "with" and "without"

" is the strongest character that Amazo can take on with and without copying their power set? "