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Jiraiya starts off in Sage Mode with Ma and Pa and he has twenty five kunai knives. Jiraiya can summon every toad from his battle with Pain, and can use all of his jutsus. Jiraiya and his opponent are ten meters apart. Can he take Rayleigh?

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#2  Edited By Voorhees100

Gonna Bump this and go with Jiraiya if he can get that Toad Song to work fast enough.

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#3  Edited By Rumble Man

Silvers if it enters melee

I won't say haki crush because its d!ckish

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#4  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
@Rumble Man: I doubt Haki crush would work anyhow...though Observation Haki might be a big problem.
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#5  Edited By Rumble Man

@The Stegman: What's the one he uses to tame the giant beasts?

since that may be magic with the frogs

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#6  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
@Rumble Man: Conqueror's Haki. If you mean the one that knocks out people. However, it only knocks out those with weak wills, aka fodder fighters and animals. I doubt it would do anything to Jiraiya or Gamabunta (his chief toad) it might work on lesser toad summonings though.
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#7  Edited By BlackWind

@Rumble Man said:

Silvers if it enters melee

I won't say haki crush because its d!ckish

Wouldn't work on Jiraiya anyway. Conquerer's Haki is basically an easy way to clean out fodder you don't feel like killing.

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#8  Edited By Rumble Man

@The Stegman: Still give it to ray though, dude tags with Admirals (which are above jiraiya) and he has a crazy stamina feat

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#9  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@Rumble Man said:

@The Stegman: Still give it to ray though, dude tags with Admirals (which are above jiraiya) and he has a crazy stamina feat

Geez. Jiraya tagged "Pein"

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#10  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
@Rumble Man: I'm conflicted as to who to choose, on the one hand, Observation Haki is hard to overcome (that's what allowed him to keep up with Kizaru) but on the other, (and the genjutsu/chakra debate comes up YET AGAIN) Jiraiya could counter it with his Toad Song Genjutsu, trapping him like he did Pein. 
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#11  Edited By Rumble Man

@The Stegman: Yet again Rayleigh has speed/stat advantage

@PrinceAragorn1: and ended up as a pincushion with pein's charka disruptor poles :)

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#12  Edited By terry2012

Silvers Rayleigh.

But it could go either way if Jiraiya can use the toads to keep Silvers Rayleigh busy to get the song toads off.

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#13  Edited By mr_ingenuity  Moderator

Speed Blitz.

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#14  Edited By Simon_the_digger

The Dark King ftw.

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#15  Edited By morgrim

Honestly even though Rayleigh has very few feats he has proven himself to be pretty powerful. But jiriya has more tangible feats. I really couldnt say

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#16  Edited By Shikarenji

Rayleigh

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#17  Edited By BlackWind

Why should these two even fight, they're too awesome for that. I say Rayleigh and Jiraiya get drunk and pick up women 35 years younger than them.

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#18  Edited By Rumble Man

@BlackWind: Or Rayleigh gets drunk and mistakes Jiraiya for a woman...

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#19  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
@BlackWind said:

Why should these two even fight, they're too awesome for that. I say Rayleigh and Jiraiya get drunk and pick up women 35 years younger than them.

And leave Naruto and Luffy wondering where their mentors went THIS time.
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#20  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@Rumble Man: To be fair he did take down pein's bodies repeatedly. It's not his fault pain has about a 100 God op powers. I mean, seriously? resurrection? sucking souls out? what more does someone need?

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#21  Edited By ghost_rider1

Jiraiya is a extremely smart and skill combatant. He can use summoning, clones, substitutions, etc. All of those skills will keep rayleigh on his toes the entire fight. While jiraiya use the toad song genjutsu to finish rayleigh off.. he could also use the giant swamp jutsu he used to sink orochimaru giant summons when he and tsunade fought him in part 1. Rayleigh has no defense against that jutsu. Jiraiya is just too versatile

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Naruto & One Piece are different worlds... You dont say Rayleigh wins cuz he use haki ?!? Then Jiraiya use Bunshin, Seal or Genjutsu every tricky jutsu he can use !?! This not a good approach at all.

They're awesome chars and mentors. They're my favorite characters in their series.

They're bot has intelligence
Jiraiya is better H2H combatant and martial artist then Rayleigh
They're both has same level of experience
Silver Rayleigh maybe a little quicker than Jiraiya
But Sage Jiraiya faster than him or same level
Jiraiya stronger than Rayleigh
And Conqueror Haki wont work on Jiraiya J-Man has a sheer will power..
They had same level stamina maybe Jiraiya little better than Rayleigh (Sage card)
Jiraiya has a better support stuff... Toads, Kunais, Paper Bombs, Traps etc etc

I think Regular Jiraiya take this with mid-high diff. cuz his more skilled and more smarter on 1on1 fights...
Sage Jiraiya win this low diff.



Why should these two even fight, they're too awesome for that. I say Rayleigh and Jiraiya get drunk and pick up women 35 years younger than them.

and this is a great approach :)

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#24  Edited By Cooldes

Silvers

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Silvers all day, every day. lol

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#26  Edited By DeathHero61

This is too funny. Jiraya stomps so easily....

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@utkanflash: I thought you said they both had similar experience? Otherwise I agree with your breakdown XD As for h2h capabilities it's really hard to rate Silver, though he did take on Kizaru. As for base form Jiraya I really don't think he'd win, mostly due to observation Haki. In sage mode though it would be more even with Sage mode's reflexes and speed boosts. Heck, it would also put him leagues above Silver in Strength in my opinion. Still I think SIlver has the edge with the addition of armament haki as well. Time is a huge thing for most ways Jiraya can win, the song, the summoning and the limit to sage mode. I think Silver could outlast that much and keep him busy enough to avoid any of those.

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@deathhero61: How? lol, Silvers was fast enough to intercept Borsalino and then fight him.

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@deathhero61: How? lol, Silvers was fast enough to intercept Borsalino and then fight him.

His only real feat is his combat speed which isn't much to get hype over, based on feats jiraya is still a better combatant. He has better versatility, a naruto character's combat skill and most one piece characters combat skills are two different things. Naruto characters use strategies, strength, and speed is irrelevant if your opponents have ways to counter them.

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@deathhero61: Unless he gets his head blitzed to hell O. o

He managed to keep up with pain, orochimaru, and others, plus he is in sage mode, his reflexes are highly enhanced, so its likely that he won't be getting speed blitzed. And he got many tools to utilize in this fight.

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Note, jiraya knows how to do this technique. So does minato. so don't go saying this is irrelevant.

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@utkanflash: this seems super biased in jiraiyas favor...i love both these series to death but lets not forget rayleigh fought the admirals like it was nothing

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@utkanflash: this seems super biased in jiraiyas favor...i love both these series to death but lets not forget rayleigh fought the admirals like it was nothing

His only feat thats worth mentioning is saving zoro, and having a highly supersonic at best combat speed showdown with kizaru via sword.

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#34  Edited By utkanflash

Guys you're just watch anime ı assume..But Animes aren't canons.. Manga is.. And in Manga Rayleigh not flyin or speedy counter on Kizaru, that scene just for anime and look like very impressive but its not true at all ?! but the other side Jiraiya faster in manga (vs Pain)
Rayleigh is one of my favorite top 3 one piece char but... Jiraiya to much for him.... How he can survive after Katon:Gamayu endan or Doton:Yomi Numa and these are Jiraiya's easiset attacks.. What about frog's stomach .

When Jiraiya grab Rayleigh


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then this is happened..
Jiraiya create kage bunshin and suprised Raylegih ?!
Rayleigh even passed his Hair Defense (Hari Jizo)
and what about in Sage Mode Rayleigh has no chance on SAGE ?!

Senpou Goemon, Combine Attacks of Elder Toads, Giant Flame Bullets, Giant Rasengans, super speed, super durability, super senses and power ?!?
Jiraiya die so early but Naruto world is evolving in this time ?! Even Kakashi or Gai how strong they are now ?! Gai can kick RS mode Madara, Shounen Series works this way, time after time alive ones always gets better

for example ; Bleach; Rukia and Renji ?!? now they stronger than Taicho(Captain) level ?!

so whatever... Jiraiya to much for Rayleigh ?!

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Lmao rayleigh speedblitzes and 1 shots joraiya and the frogs.

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@zusun: No he doesn't. Gamabunta tanked almighty pain, so did all his other usual frogs, they ain't getting one shotted and jiraya is not getting speed blitzed either.

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I still back the Dark King. I dont see Jiraiya not getting overwhelmed by someone who could react to Kizaru .

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@zusun: No he doesn't. Gamabunta tanked almighty pain, so did all his other usual frogs, they ain't getting one shotted and jiraya is not getting speed blitzed either.

he didn't really. Shinra tensei broke every bone in his body. Not saying rayleigh can do that, just saiyan.

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Glad no one ever noticed Hellboy. I have absolutely no idea why I included him here. Editing the OP...

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@princearagorn1: They survived thats the thing. And if they can survive that much force being launched into them then rayleigh isn't going to one shot them at all.

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Bump. I really want to add Avatar Roku in here, but I know his durability is far too weak... disappointing.

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Jiraiya went out like a boss. He'll go out like a boss here too.

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@utkanflash: jiraya stronger than rayleigh?

the guy who swam from sabody archipelago, all the way across the ocean, killing sea kings effortlessly with his bare hands (while swimming, no less) on his way to amazon lily?

i don't understand how anyone could think that a naruto character is stronger than their one piece counterpart

conqueror's haki doesn't only effect the weaker willed. which was demonstrated by what shanks did to whitebeard's ship and what luffy and chinjao did to the gladiator ring

jiraiya isn't swimming across the ocean while fighting anyone

rayleigh has more stamina

a more versatile move pool doesn't even make you win in naruto (zabuza is a swordsman, kakashi, orochimaru, and the third hokage don't always win and they know the most jutsu, deidara uses only bombs)

so more versatility doesn't mean you win

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Jiraiya gets one shotted by a casual sword slash.He cant contend with Rayleigh in pretty much all areas.

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You're even see jiraiya tired ? When? How Raylegih has more stamina... Sages has limitless stamina...

And Sage Jiraiya has more strentgh and trap card than Raylegih..

And ı think many Naruto Chars stronger than OP Chars

OP Chars has a great powers but not has variation... Raylegih just has haki+sword+enchanced physical abilites
BUt Jiraiya
taijutsu,genjutsu,senjutsu,ninjutsu,bukijutsu,kuchiyose no jutsu, trap jutsus, jikuukan jutsu etc etc etc

He has bigger skill set than Raylegih.. I love Rayleigh he is a beast.. All Top Tier OP Chars are beasts.
But thats all they dont have great skillsets like Naruto Chars..

Raylegih cant Slash Jirayia it was line nothing ?

His summons, his genjutsu, his senjutsu is quite enough to confused and take down Rayleigh by the way
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Jiraiya Genjutsu's and kills Rayleigh.

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@princearagorn1:

The echo effect is pretty nice, shame they dont use it anymore lol

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I don't know how people think Rayleigh doesn't blitz.Heck even before the new upgrade OPVerse got from Nami's lightning being confirmed,Rayleigh's still way too fast for Jiraiya.He blitzes Jiraiya with a sword swipe.

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The Dark King wins in a stomp, better in basically every way