jimmy rustling 5 on 4 amalgam battle

amalgam 1

martian manhunter + wally west + captain atom + hulk (world breaker) + hal jordan (gl)

amalgam 2

sentry (not mentally unstable) + x-man (shaman) + hunter zolomon + silver surfer

rules:

1. morals off
2. fight starts on earth, continents apart
3. standard versions if not specified.... dc characters have pre + new 52 feats
4. win by any means
5. physicals will not stack up

who wins?

Team 2 wins handily.

Team 2 wins handily.

Callouts

it's an amalgam battle... only two characters are fighting here..

Team two, by far.

but it's a handicapped (by 5 to 4) amalgam

Han !

Character 2

He outclasses the character 1 by a huge margin.

@ssj_god: Replace one of the characters on Team 1 with Dr.Fate

But Zolomon + Silver Surfer speed blows Wally West out of the water.

Character 2 would be way too fast.

Team 2

Zoom and Nate are the deciding factor

Team 2 takes this quite easily

Amalgamated?

Stalemate, there is no way for either to kill the other

but why?... i intentionally didn't put any magic users in any amalgams... if you see closely, everyone in the amalgam has different abilities (their main abilities that is)... so combining them all would give quite an unique amalgam...

though maybe people are right... i'll replace DSS with regular sentry.

ohh.. i forgot to mention.. speed will not stack up... though even if that was the case,... don't you think atom and manhunter was fast too?

@nickthedevil: Lol, Morals Off Wally West would make Zolomon look like a chump. Silver Surfer is nowhere near Wally in speed.

@unbreakable_fs4: @nickthedevil: @pablosl: @jacthripper: @zhurong: @realitywarper: @kingant27:

edited it a bit

replaced dss with regular sentry...... and physicals won't stack up here

killing isn't necessary to win here...... anything goes

@ssj_god: Ok.
Character 2 wins. :)

Character 1 will try to TP, killing himself in the process.

what? o.O

Still Team 2 handily.

hmm.. i see.. though it's not a team battle.. all of those characters are amalgamated.. i.e combined into a single body.

Still wouldn't change it, because the Amalgamated character would be superior for Team 2...

why though?.. it's handicapped.. 5 vs 4.... amalgam 1 characters are pretty fierce also.. what could be the decisive factor?

Well it's complicated now, but I would give it to character 2 in a close fight.

Numbers do not necessarily enforce a win, and the fact that there is SS cosmic awareness etc, with Nate, Zolomon's speed, and the OP Sentry; is just too much for Team1 IMO...

but there are many powers in amalgam 1 also...... MMH, atom (many thinks he could be more powerful than surfer), wally's speed (and keep in mind he's morals off), wb hulk's physicals, and hal jordan gives quite a bit power and versatility aswell...

you said amalgam 2 wins handily.. that's why just saying.. :)

what could be the deciding factor though?

@ssj_god: BFR doesn't really work here as both can open dimensional portals or just step out, GL and MMH gives character 1 immunity to TP, they can both heal almost instantly, their matter manipulation won't really do anything, they don't require physical forms, etc. There is no way for either to win, even speed steal is negated by Zooms presence.

Nate's TP, along with SS using to Astral Plane would pretty much handle TP, many are also lacking knowledge on SS then, because Captain Atom's being now a re-done character which feats are more recognised, while a lot of SS's are forgotten, also Zolomon's speed etc; and the Sentry is just too much IMO...

lol.. i did think through abilities before making the match up.. ohh well, if that's what you think :)

This

but as jacthripper said... mmh's tp and hal's tp resistance + minor tp can make up for tp can't they?... i'm not touching atom and surfer... but there is a morals off wally's speed in amalgam 1........ hal, wb hulk, mmh, atom, wally is quite a scary versatility in total.

@ssj_god: Sure, but I personally find SS cosmic power + Sentry's matter manipulation more deadly, still I don't think it'd be easy, I'd give it to character 2 6/10, I don't think speed would have any relevance in a fight between guys with this kind of powers, they're reality warpers

i see.. so it's a close call then.. nice :)

ZOLOMON SOLOS!!!!!!!!!!

how? o.O

@ssj_god: His speed is so much he separates from the amalgam and solos the two characters.

@ssj_god: The Jimmy Ruslting would be a lot better if it were DC vs Marvel Amalgam

yeah right... characters here can withstand only speed quite well.

@ssj_god: Zolomon is >Wally and Wally is >>>> everyone here so he solos.

umm.. it's almost like that.. just entered one from marvel to dc and one from dc to marvel.. just to balance out abilities... and i think it's quite balanced currently.

wally is morals off here...

and beside.. wally has other abilities... only speed can't do much to many of these characters.

@ssj_god: Yeah, but it's Marvel vs DC or Mainstream VS Anime or Mainstream vs Indie Publisher that rustles everyone's jimmies. This is unpure...so it's really not gonna rustle the jimmies.

Nate's TP, and the Astral Plane for SS means they are both losing in a TP battle, however the other amalgam will or could be TP'd etc, and Hulk is basically a non-factor, due to SS...

ohh.. but it does holds main jimmy rustling characters :D

@ssj_god: You remember that Blue Marvel vs Apollo thread? Go back and read it. Or go read the Silver Surfer vs Martian Manhunter Thread. There is a reason certain threads rustle jimmies.

@johnfrank120: nah, wally would get curbstomped by SS

lol.. yeah i know.. but it's quite difficult to balance abilities if we go for a pure fight as u're suggesting.. anyway.. i'll try... any suggestions?

@ssj_god: difficult to balance abilities if we go for a pure fight as u're suggesting.

There is plenty of higher tiers to ruslte jimmies and make it a well balanced fight. I'll send suggestions later.

@ssj_god: @pablosl: SPEEEEEEED>All. And Wally has SPEEEEEEEEEEEED but Zolomon has more SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

So Zolomon solos!!!!