Jedi Knights VS Avengers

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#1  Edited By dark_anakin

The jedi knights in the movie's era

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#2  Edited By dark_anakin

Master Yoda vs The Hulk

Mace Windu vs Thor

Kit Fisto vs Iron Man

Obiwan Kenobi vs Captain America

Anakin Skywalker vs Vision

Ahsoka vs Wasp

Ki Adi Mundi vs Black Panther

Shakk Ti vs Ms Marvel

Plo Koon vs Ant Man

Adi Galla vs Hawkeye

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@dark_anakin said:

Master Yoda vs The Hulk

Mace Windu vs Thor

Kit Fisto vs Iron Man

Obiwan Kenobi vs Captain America

Anakin Skywalker vs Vision

Ahsoka vs Wasp

Ki Adi Mundi vs Black Panther

Shakk Ti vs Ms Marvel

Plo Koon vs Ant Man (assuming Hank and not one of the other Ant Men)

Adi Galla vs Hawkeye

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#4  Edited By Pyrogram

@Moonchilde said:

@dark_anakin said:

Master Yoda vs The Hulk

Mace Windu vs Thor

Kit Fisto vs Iron Man

Obiwan Kenobi vs Captain America

Anakin Skywalker vs Vision

Ahsoka vs Wasp

Ki Adi Mundi vs Black Panther

Shakk Ti vs Ms Marvel

Plo Koon vs Ant Man (assuming Hank and not one of the other Ant Men)

Adi Galla vs Hawkeye

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Jedi Knights win.

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#6  Edited By TrueMoonchilde

@Pyrogram: Yoda/Hulk I could see either way, but how does Anakin hurt Vision, let alone beat him?

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#7  Edited By Pyrogram

@Moonchilde: How does vision hurt little anny?

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@Pyrogram: By phsae punching threw him, by phasing beneath him and pulling him into the ground, by superstrength ripping his head off, by radiation beaming him to death.

Vision has a number of ways he can hurt/kill Anakin. I don't see what Anakin can do to someone that could just sit phased the entire battle if he wanted to.

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@Moonchilde:

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Master Yoda vs The Hulk= Yoda wins in a medium hard fight.

Mace Windu vs Thor= Thor stomps.

Kit Fisto vs Iron Man= Tony in a hard fight.

Obiwan Kenobi vs Captain America= Obi-wan stomps badly.

Anakin Skywalker vs Vision= Vision stomps.

Ahsoka vs Wasp= Asoka stomps.

Ki Adi Mundi vs Black Panther= Ki Adi Mundi win.

Shakk Ti vs Ms Marvel= Miss marvel stomp.

Plo Koon vs Ant Man= dont know.

Adi Galla vs Hawkeye= Adi Galia Stomp.

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Team Jedi.

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Team Jedi should win.

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@mjolnirson: how does asoka stomp? Wasp can grow too so she literally stomps, same thing with ant-man. I also dont see yoda beating hulk considering that he can't output enough damage to ko him and would only enrage him. Everything else looks about right

@dark_anakin: these aren't jedi knights, anakin is one and ahsoka is a padawan, the rest are masters who sit in the council.

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thor solos

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Master Yoda vs The Hulk

Mace Windu vs Thor

Kit Fisto vs Iron Man

Obiwan Kenobi vs Captain America

Anakin Skywalker vs Vision

Ahsoka vs Wasp - pfft I dunno LOL

Ki Adi Mundi vs Black Panther - Seems like quite a cool fight.

Shakk Ti vs Ms Marvel

Plo Koon vs Ant Man

Adi Galla vs Hawkeye

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Can someone explain what Yoda can do to the Hulk? I mean unless he can use his TP to calm Hulk back to Banner, I don't see him winning, and even then Hulk has resisted TP before, so can anyone explain how Yoda wins?

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Master Yoda vs The Hulk - To durable.

Mace Windu vs Thor -Windu can saber throw his arse.

Kit Fisto vs Iron Man - Tony can fly away pretty fast so he can spam rockets at him.

Obiwan Kenobi vs Captain America - Mismatch.

Anakin Skywalker vs Vision

Ahsoka vs Wasp Who is Wasp?

Ki Adi Mundi vs Black Panther - force push

Shakk Ti vs Ms Marvel - Skilled

Plo Koon vs Ant Man - I doubt force works if Hank retains the large form.

Adi Galla vs Hawkeye - Missmatch, can just force push him into a wall so he breaks his back.

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@dondave said:

@i_like_swords How does Anakin deal with Vision's intangibility?

Totally forgot about that. I can't recall if Anakin has dealt wit intangibility before so..

Vision wins. Lol.

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@dark_anakin said:

Master Yoda vs The Hulk - To durable.

Mace Windu vs Thor -Windu can saber throw his a***

Hulk would never be able to tag Yoda and would get BFR'd to the nearest available ocean, and in addition Yoda is fast enough to move at the type of speed Hulk cannot even register. He isn't getting tagged.

Thor has quite a durable a***. That is not going to work. He has enough versatility to defeat Mace and fight against the Force. And Mace has no real way of hurting him.

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@leonkarlen123 said:

@dark_anakin said:

Master Yoda vs The Hulk - To durable.

Mace Windu vs Thor -Windu can saber throw his a***

Hulk would never be able to tag Yoda and would get BFR'd to the nearest available ocean, and in addition Yoda is fast enough to move at the type of speed Hulk cannot even register. He isn't getting tagged.

Thor has quite a durable a***. That is not going to work. He has enough versatility to defeat Mace and fight against the Force. And Mace has no real way of hurting him.

Mace Windu is one of the most skilled Jedi master there has ever been, the force is strong with him and he can mind blow people.

I believe lightsabers is said to be able to cut through anything besides another laser beam, atleast on Wiki's and the Database and the thread called ''Can a lightsaber cut through Adamantium'' or something got many good reasons why it could cut through it.

Adamantium>>Thor Durability, Thor is probably equal to an Diamonds durability like Emma Frost diamond form.

Another Question: Since you are an big Star Wars fan do you know if there is any difference besides the colors in the lightsabers, red, blue, green etc?.. Is there a reason Jedi Masters wears Green lightsabers and Knights wears Blue?

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@leonkarlen123 The colours of lightsabers IIRC are just based on preference

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@leonkarlen123:

Mace Windu is one of the most skilled Jedi master there has ever been, the force is strong with him and he can mind blow people.

You're telling me this like I don't know that. That's the most basic description of Mace Windu I've ever seen.

I believe lightsabers is said to be able to cut through anything besides another laser beam, atleast on Wiki's and the Database and the thread called ''Can a lightsaber cut through Adamantium'' or something got many good reasons why it could cut through it.

No, they can't cut through anything. There's a metal in Star Wars called Mandalorian Iron which is resistant to lightsabers and it is nowhere near as durable as Thor, or Mjolnir for that matter. "Wiki's and databases" aren't canon sources of information, nor are subjective statements by comic vine users. Adamantium is truly indestructible by physical means, and has needed vast cosmic power or magic to even dent it before. A lightsaber wouldn't come close.

Adamantium>>Thor Durability, Thor is probably equal to an Diamonds durability like Emma Frost diamond form.

Thor's durability >>> Lightsaber

Another Question: Since you are an big Star Wars fan do you know if there is any difference besides the colors in the lightsabers, red, blue, green etc?.. Is there a reason Jedi Masters wears Green lightsabers and Knights wears Blue?

Yes. Lightsaber colour tends to represent something about the wielder. Blue is generally associated with Jedi Knights and warriors of the Jedi. Green is associated with Jedi Councillors, Jedi who are especially proficient with Force abilities. Although these are completely interchangeable and Jedi sometimes use a combination of the two, or swap between them.

Red crystals are synthetic, opposed to the organically occurring Blue and Green crystals the Jedi use for their lightsabers. The Sith use these IIRC correctly because they think using synthetic crystals is superior. Also, the colour red fits in with the themes of anger, passion, ect.

Then you get things like purple lightsabers, which are sometimes associated with darker Jedi. You can get yellow lightsabers which are associated with Guardians or Sentinels. There has also been Orange and White lightsabers, as well as a single Darksaber which was stolen from the Jedi by the Mandalorians during the TOR era, and was in their possession until the Clone Wars, where Darth Maul defeated Pre Vizsla and claimed the weapon as a symbol of his rule over Mandalore. Pretty cool sword.

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Master Yoda vs The Hulk - Unless Yoda immediately KOs the Hulk with the Force then he gets crushed. Once Hulk gets his hands on him.

Mace Windu vs Thor - I think Thor stomps this.

Kit Fisto vs Iron Man - Iron Man should win, but it does depend on the armour. Anything below Extremis and he might lose. Fisto is a very skilled Jedi, and the lightsaber would do a lot of damage if he got close enough and Stark's shields weren't up.

Obiwan Kenobi vs Captain America - Other than getting around the shield Obi Wan wouldn't have too much trouble winning this.

Anakin Skywalker vs Vision - I think the Vision could win, what with phasing and laser vision, but Anakin could beat him if he's smart and catches him off guard.

Ahsoka vs Wasp - I think Ashoka wins pretty easily.

Ki Adi Mundi vs Black Panther - This is pretty close, but Panther could win, if he has his more recent gear and weapons.

Shakk Ti vs Ms Marvel - Probably Mrs Marvel, she's too powerful, i think.

Plo Koon vs Ant Man - Koon wins.

Adi Galla vs Hawkeye - Adi wins if she's quick, if not she gets arrows in the face.

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@leonkarlen123 Lightsabers can't cut through anything. There are several materials such as a cortosis weave that are extremely resistant to downright immune to being cut by one. A lightsaber has never pierced anything as durable as Thor so why would it happen here?

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@leonkarlen123 Lightsabers can't cut through anything. There are several materials such as a cortosis weave that are extremely resistant to downright immune to being cut by one. A lightsaber has never pierced anything as durable as Thor so why would it happen here?

Is there any true scan for this? Just asking since they never had an Crossover.

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Yoda Hulk stombs both teams. Makes them volunteer at the humane society as punishment for their bad behavior.

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#29  Edited By juiceboks  Moderator

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@leonkarlen123 Lightsabers can't cut through anything. There are several materials such as a cortosis weave that are extremely resistant to downright immune to being cut by one. A lightsaber has never pierced anything as durable as Thor so why would it happen here?

Is there any true scan for this? Just asking since they never had an Crossover.

What do you mean? I'm saying a lightsaber has never cut through anything as durable as Thor..I can't just pull up a scan of an object not doing something.

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@leonkarlen123 said:

@juiceboks said:

@leonkarlen123 Lightsabers can't cut through anything. There are several materials such as a cortosis weave that are extremely resistant to downright immune to being cut by one. A lightsaber has never pierced anything as durable as Thor so why would it happen here?

Is there any true scan for this? Just asking since they never had an Crossover.

What do you mean? I'm saying a lightsaber has never cut through anything as durable as Thor..I can't just pull up a scan of an object not doing something.

I just believe weaker things than plasma beams has damaged or scratched Thor.

Anyways what defense does Thor have against something nonviable/untouchable as The Force?

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Master Yoda vs The Hulk

Yoda starts talking. Hulk thinks he's telling a joke, laughs and starts clapping. Yoda dies with a round of applause.

Mace Windu vs Thor

Thor swings once and Mace explodes.

Kit Fisto vs Iron Man

Tony uses AoE repulsor explosion and Fisto is fried eel.

Obiwan Kenobi vs Captain America

The shield isn't breaking. That's all I'll say.

Anakin Skywalker vs Vision

Intangibility ftw.

Ahsoka vs Wasp

Wasp shrinks so small she becomes imperceptible. Ahsoka dies from micro-beams making smoking holes on the inside of her skull.

Ki Adi Mundi vs Black Panther

Vibranium.

Shakk Ti vs Ms Marvel

Ms. Marvel. This was a no brainer.Shaak can't even hurt her.

Plo Koon vs Ant Man

Same as wasp, except Plo's head just explodes from Hank rapidly increasing size.

Adi Galla vs Hawkeye

Don't know who Adi is.

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@reikai: You seem to hate Star Wars.

What stops Obi to force push Cap into heaven?

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@leonkarlen123: lol I was thinking the same. Obvious biased person is biased.

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BAHAHAHAHA. The Avengers win, easily.

YODA VS HULK

Master Yoda has very strong telepathy, but I have seen the Hulk resist people with mind control such as the Leader or even Professor X and Yoda cannot physically take the Hulk on.

The Hulk wins 8/10.

THOR VS WINDU

@reikaisaid:

Thor swings once and Mace explodes.

KIT FISTO VS IROM MAN

Iron Man just burns him up.

Obi Wan vs Captain America

Obi-Wan would just remove Captain America's shield with the force and he'd cut hm up.

Anakin Skywalker vs Vison

Vision just disables Anakin with his combination of density control, super strength and laser vision.

Ahsoka vs Wasp

I saw Wasp burn a hole into Death Seed Sentry. Ahsoka is non existent by the end of the fight.

Ki Adi Mundi vs Black Panther

Could go either way, depending on who does what first.

Shaak ti vs Ms. Marvel

Ms. Marvel hits her once and breaks Shaak Ti's neck on accident.

Plo Koon vs Ant Man

Ant Man might escape Plo Koon's notice, or Plo Koon could kill him.

Adi Gallia vs Hawkeye

Hawkeye. Adi Gallia's showings weren't very impressive.

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Yoda is far too fast for that. Stalemate, they cant do anything to each other. Hulk to durable, Yoda too fast.

Thor wins

Ironman wins in a good battle.

The shield isnt breaking? So what, a simple force push is enough to remove Cap from the battle. Obi-wan wins.

Wasp wins in good battle

Vision wins via intangibility

Ki Adi Mundi wont let Black Panther touch him like Obi-wan a few force pushes and T'challa is removed from battle

Ms. Marvel wins.

Plo Koon is certainly in trouble here if he can use tk quickly he should take a victory, if not Ant-man wins.

Hawkeye gets shoved out of battle via force push.

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#38  Edited By RealityWarper

Master Yoda vs The Hulk

Mace Windu vs Thor

Kit Fisto vs Iron Man

Obiwan Kenobi vs Captain America

Anakin Skywalker vs Vision

Ahsoka vs Wasp - pfft I dunno LOL

Ki Adi Mundi vs Black Panther - Seems like quite a cool fight.

Shakk Ti vs Ms Marvel

Plo Koon vs Ant Man

Adi Galla vs Hawkeye

Mostly this

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yoda vs hulk: yoda wins easily. the force has a strong influence on a weak mind. hulk would be incapacitated or even turned against his fellow avengers after a very brief fight if any at all.

windu vs thor: windu wins by a hair. windu's skill, agility plus his force mind abilities would be enough to keep thor's brash mind off balance long enough to ware through his durability. a lightsaber would have to chop through thor's arm but it could be done. the heat from a single lightsaber strike would be painful to thor and it would leave damage. also even though mace windu is dark for a jedi he is still a champion of the light side and may be able to wield Thor's hammer as well as

any Jedi. thor could still get lucky and win by a hair.

kit fisto vs ironman: kit wins after a decent fight. I don't know why so many people gave this to ironman. he is essentially jango/boba fett and we saw how relativity easily windu/Luke dispatched theses characters. why wouldn't fisto be able to do the same. however we also saw jango give obiwan a run for his money so there is a small chance ironman could get lucky and win by a hair.

obiwan vs cap: they would stop fighting and team up or start negotiating after a brief fight. but obi would win after a decent fight if they had too. although I dout a lightsaber would easily cut through caps shield. it would take a few direct strikes before picies starting falling off. or the sheild would become superheated and the straps combust. lightsaber resistant does not mean lightsaber proof.

anakin vs vision: anakin would win after the fight of his life if he wins at all. vision may be able to turn intangible to the physical realm but not to the force. anakin could sever vision's insides or even block visions ability to become intangible. but neither of these things would be easily accomplished by anakin and visions intelegance and adaptability may turn the tide back.

Asoka vs wasp: Asoka wins after a descent fight. with the force, even considering that asoka is a Padawan unlike plo koon who is a master, she would be able to sence wasp if she's small and be agile enough if wasp was big.

mundi vs Panther: mundi wins after a decent fight. all of the skill and teck/magic wakanda has to offer is simply no match for the power of the force and a lightsaber.

shakk ti vs ms marvel: shakk ti wins by a hair. ms marvel has pretty extreme powers but she doesn't have the force. shakk ti can react to every move before marvel makes it. as well as deflect energy with lightsaber. ms. marvel could still get luckily pretty easily tho.

plo koon vs ant man: plo wins after decent fight. see Asoka vs wasp

adi Galla vs Hawkeye: Galla wins easily. Hawkeyes only chance to beat any jedi would be to use explosive arrows that would still hurt the jedi if intercepted with a lightsaber. however any jedi would be able to sence the impending danger and opt to dodge the arrow instead of using lightsaber to block it. hawkeye could even rapidity randomly switch between two types of arrows but the jedi would be able to predict each one.

I am a huge fan of both marvel and lucasfilm and I tried to consider everything I could remember from films and comics from both franchises. i also tried to compare films from one franchise to films from the other franchise and comics to comics instead of comparing films to comics.

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Master Yoda vs The Hulk

Mace Windu vs Thor

Kit Fisto vs Iron Man

Obiwan Kenobi vs Captain America

Anakin Skywalker vs Vision

Ahsoka vs Wasp

Ki Adi Mundi vs Black Panther

Shakk Ti vs Ms Marvel

Plo Koon vs Ant Man

Adi Galla vs Hawkeye

Most of the fights are pretty close

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#42  Edited By Don_Sevour

Yoda

Thor

Iron Man

Obi-Wan Kenobi

Vision

Ahsoka

Ki Adi Mundi

Ms Marvel

Plo Koon

Adi Galla

If I had to explain my choices,

1. Hulk's a brick, but he's rather helpless against tk, and his tp resistance has only been seen in his angrier states. I've seen him get mind-fucked as much as he's resisted tp. Also, jedi's have some pre-cog, so with all that together I see hulk being defeated and handled.

2. Thor can fly (non-mechanically) and has consistent tp resistance, so I see him just overpowering both aspects of the force. And while I do believe that a light saber will hurt him, I also believe he'll be able to tank plenty of blows before going down. Mace, not so much. One hit and he's pudding. Also, thor has ranged AOE, so yeah.

3. Tony has even better tp resistance than thor and should also be able to, uh, "out thrust" the tk of the force. A light saber would kill him, but he'd just blast Kit with an AOE laser/missile/concussion blast or two and battle's over.

4.Cap's helpless without his shield, and the force is the perfect power to remove said shield from his possesion. Then Obi-Wan could just TK him into paste, cut him in half, tp his brains to jelly, whatever. Cap loses.

5.Vision can go intangible, has AOE projectiles like IM, and some versions have tp of there own. He seems rather immune to... most of what an akin can do to hurt him. And since he can just phase disrupt him or AOE blast him, victory goes to vision.

6. While a jedi's pre-cog won't help much against AOE or Unstoppable force, it can help to defeat an opponent who relies on a form of stealth to launch devastating surprise attacks. So... I see Ahsoka catching a shrunken wasp with the force and just disintegrating her entire body with a saber swing.

7.Black panther can't resist tp or tk. And I doubt he can take many, if any, light saber swings. So... victory ki Adi mundi.

8.Ms. Marvel can fly much like thor and absorbs energy (what a light saber is made of). No idea if she has any tp resistance, but more often then not I just see them trading blows where ms. Marvel just absorbs the sword and smashes shall to to paste.

9. Never seen ant man resist tp or tk. Surprise rarely works on a jedi (if he shrinks), and if he grows, He'll probably just get tk'd and tp'd. So I put my money on Plo Koon.

10. Adi Galla would block any arrow that Hawkeye shot. And defeat him in one sword swing, or force push, or, uh, tp. So yeah. Galla wins.

Feel free to provide a counter argument to any of these, but I admit that i'm going on the basis that these jedi have relatively similar powersets/skills.

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Master Yoda vs The Hulk stomps

Mace Windu vs Thor stomps

Kit Fisto vs Iron Man stomps

Obiwan Kenobiwins vs Captain America

Anakin Skywalker vs Vision wins

Ahsokawins vs Wasp

Ki Adi Mundi vs Black Panther = this one I'm on the fence about.

Shakk Ti vs Ms Marvel wins

Plo Koon vs Ant Man wins

Adi Gallawins vs Hawkeye

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Yoda vs Hulk = Yoda TPs him to his side, makes him fall asleep, etc. Or he one-shots with TK, or thousands of other Force abilities. Or he speed blitzes, or legit outmuscles him.

Thor vs Mace Windu = Ah, last I checked, Thor wasn't just short of omnipotent. Mace wins rather decisively with any number of Force abilities, or he speedblitzes. He can win in raw combat with difficulty.

Kit Fisto vs Iron Man = Fisto is faster (by a decent margin at that, could contend with Darth Sidious -- who scales nigh-infinitely above Sith who are already lightspeed-level -- while hindered by a DS vergence) and a vastly more skilled combatant. Probably stronger as well. IM's anti-TK/TP measures won't work on a Force user, so realistically, he gets ragdolled or mind dominated.

Captain America vs Obi-Wan Kenobi = Cap is peak human, Kenobi is superhuman. He's superior in every physical capacity, and is a more skilled martial artist as well. Moreover, he's more proficient with a lightsaber than Cap is with his shield, plus he has precognition, TK and TP to boot.

Vision vs Anakin Skywalker = Vision takes a majority due to his phasing ability which will take his opponent off-guard, although Skywalker is superior in all other aspects of combat.

Wasp vs Ahsoka = Ahsoka wins unless Wasp flies inside her and grows back.

Black Panther vs Ki-Adi Mundi = Conehead wins. He is far quicker, more agile, stronger, and he's more skilled in h2h. Plus it's dubious as to whether BP's suit can withstand a lightsaber hit. Not even counting TK or the other powers Mundi has at his disposal.

Ms Marvel vs Shaak Ti = Marvel. Shaak is more skilled a fighter but Marvel has a noticeable power advantage.

Plo Koon vs Antman = Plo stomps unless Antman flies inside him and grows back.

Adi Gallia vs Hawkeye = Gallia speedblitzes, or stomps in all other categories.

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Lmao ^

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@lord_tenebrous: agree except cap-obi wan, does Thor’s hammer not make Cap superhuman

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@gohex:

True but I don't think that this is worthy cap

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#49  Edited By Dmnb2wavy

@lord_tenebrous: how does yoda tp hulk? Hulk has resisted much greater tp. Also how tf does yoda out muscle hulk? And how does he one shot with tk

Also there are the movies how does any of these characters have lightspeed reactions.

Iron man should beat kit

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