jean grey vs. galactus

I will take Phoenix

phoenix ftw

phoenix stomps, if a powered down rachel green phoenix can beat a hungryu galactus. The most powerful Jean phoenix stomps any form of galactus into nothing.

I read somewhere a while ago that the Pheonix force is what caused Galactus to come into existence.  If that is true, then Galactus would basically be fighting the personification of it's creator.

yup, Galan was put in the WHR so he could be in this universe. WPOTC stomps

" @High Revolutionary said:

" I read somewhere a while ago that the Pheonix force is what caused Galactus to come into existence.  If that is true, then Galactus would basically be fighting the personification of it's creator. "

Correct. It was the Phoenix Force that created Galactus at the end of the preceding universe. And since this is Phoenix's most powerful incarnation, Galactus has no chance. "

"Galactus dies, but then Oblivion obliterates the Phoenix force in retaliation. "

The only way Galactus would win here is if he prays to TOAA to help him.

"I read somewhere a while ago that the Pheonix force is what caused Galactus to come into existence.  If that is true, then Galactus would basically be fighting the personification of it's creator."

" WPOTC destroys Galactus


@High Revolutionary said:

"I read somewhere a while ago that the Pheonix force is what caused Galactus to come into existence.  If that is true, then Galactus would basically be fighting the personification of it's creator."

I dont recall the Phoenix Force creating Galactus. I don't recall the Phoenix Force having anything to do with his origin. "

"@Akwa said:

" WPOTC destroys Galactus


@High Revolutionary said:

"I read somewhere a while ago that the Pheonix force is what caused Galactus to come into existence.  If that is true, then Galactus would basically be fighting the personification of it's creator."

I dont recall the Phoenix Force creating Galactus. I don't recall the Phoenix Force having anything to do with his origin. "

It's referenced in many places.  A quick google search brought up this:http://marvel.com/universe/Galactus"

"@High Revolutionary said:

"@Akwa said:

" WPOTC destroys Galactus


@High Revolutionary said:

"I read somewhere a while ago that the Pheonix force is what caused Galactus to come into existence.  If that is true, then Galactus would basically be fighting the personification of it's creator."

I dont recall the Phoenix Force creating Galactus. I don't recall the Phoenix Force having anything to do with his origin. "

It's referenced in many places.  A quick google search brought up this:http://marvel.com/universe/Galactus"

I thought that the being that saved him called itself 'the Sentience of the Universe' or something like that. Could you post a scan? "

" I thought that the being that saved him called itself 'the Sentience of the Universe' or something like that. Could you post a scan? "

" I agree with you "

"@Akwa said:

" I thought that the being that saved him called itself 'the Sentience of the Universe' or something like that. Could you post a scan? "

I've heard that variation too (here's a reference: http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/g/galactus.htm).  I'm not sure which is accurate.

I don't have any scans, unfortunately.

@G-w-D said:

" I agree with you "

Thanks.  But I am not totally certain about it."

Phoenix power!

"@G-w-D said:

"@Akwa said:

"@High Revolutionary said:

"@Akwa said:

" WPOTC destroys Galactus


@High Revolutionary said:

"I read somewhere a while ago that the Pheonix force is what caused Galactus to come into existence.  If that is true, then Galactus would basically be fighting the personification of it's creator."

I dont recall the Phoenix Force creating Galactus. I don't recall the Phoenix Force having anything to do with his origin. "

It's referenced in many places.  A quick google search brought up this:http://marvel.com/universe/Galactus"

I thought that the being that saved him called itself 'the Sentience of the Universe' or something like that. Could you post a scan? "

I agree with you "

@Akwa said:

"@High Revolutionary said:

"@Akwa said:

" WPOTC destroys Galactus


@High Revolutionary said:

"I read somewhere a while ago that the Pheonix force is what caused Galactus to come into existence.  If that is true, then Galactus would basically be fighting the personification of it's creator."

I dont recall the Phoenix Force creating Galactus. I don't recall the Phoenix Force having anything to do with his origin. "

It's referenced in many places.  A quick google search brought up this:http://marvel.com/universe/Galactus"

I thought that the being that saved him called itself 'the Sentience of the Universe' or something like that. Could you post a scan? "

The Phoenix Force saved Galan from the destruction of the previous universe, he merged with the Sentience of the Universe as they were guided into the cosmic egg, which in turn created Galactus after the big bang, in short from beginning to end the Phoenix is responsible for the creation of Galactus, from perserving Galan to sparking the big bang that resulted in the birth of Eternity, Death and Galactus. "

The Phoenix Force saved Galan from the destruction of the previous universe, he merged with the Sentience of the Universe as they were guided into the cosmic egg, which in turn created Galactus after the big bang, in short from beginning to end the Phoenix is responsible for the creation of Galactus, from perserving Galan to sparking the big bang that resulted in the birth of Eternity, Death and Galactus. "

"@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:

The Phoenix Force saved Galan from the destruction of the previous universe, he merged with the Sentience of the Universe as they were guided into the cosmic egg, which in turn created Galactus after the big bang, in short from beginning to end the Phoenix is responsible for the creation of Galactus, from perserving Galan to sparking the big bang that resulted in the birth of Eternity, Death and Galactus. "

So Phoenix Force > Death, Eternity? "

" Yep. White Phoenix of the Crown is above them according to the Marvel Power Rankings "

"@G-w-D said:

"@Akwa said:

"@High Revolutionary said:

"@Akwa said:

" WPOTC destroys Galactus


@High Revolutionary said:

"I read somewhere a while ago that the Pheonix force is what caused Galactus to come into existence.  If that is true, then Galactus would basically be fighting the personification of it's creator."

I dont recall the Phoenix Force creating Galactus. I don't recall the Phoenix Force having anything to do with his origin. "

It's referenced in many places.  A quick google search brought up this:http://marvel.com/universe/Galactus"

I thought that the being that saved him called itself 'the Sentience of the Universe' or something like that. Could you post a scan? "

I agree with you "

@Akwa said:

"@High Revolutionary said:

"@Akwa said:

" WPOTC destroys Galactus


@High Revolutionary said:

"I read somewhere a while ago that the Pheonix force is what caused Galactus to come into existence.  If that is true, then Galactus would basically be fighting the personification of it's creator."

I dont recall the Phoenix Force creating Galactus. I don't recall the Phoenix Force having anything to do with his origin. "

It's referenced in many places.  A quick google search brought up this:http://marvel.com/universe/Galactus"

I thought that the being that saved him called itself 'the Sentience of the Universe' or something like that. Could you post a scan? "

The Phoenix Force saved Galan from the destruction of the previous universe, he merged with the Sentience of the Universe as they were guided into the cosmic egg, which in turn created Galactus after the big bang, in short from beginning to end the Phoenix is responsible for the creation of Galactus, from perserving Galan to sparking the big bang that resulted in the birth of Eternity, Death and Galactus. "

" Are you hearing yourself?  The phoenix protected Galan at some point how is that rational evidence that it's more powerfull than Galactus I could equate that to someone claiming a normal person capable of beating B Banner is also capable of beating Hulk?  "

You are now both aware there is a thread for this..Take it there

Galactus would win because he can outsmart the phoenix. He called phoenix a hypocrite because in order for her to stand a chance against galactus she would have to deny billions, if not trillions of people life. Phoenix would not upset the balance of life and death and so will not destroy Galactus. Potentially she could, but if Galactus is fully-powered she would choose not to.

So it would be a stand off.

" Galactus would win because he can outsmart the phoenix. He called phoenix a hypocrite because in order for her to stand a chance against galactus she would have to deny billions, if not trillions of people life. Phoenix would not upset the balance of life and death and so will not destroy Galactus. Potentially she could, but if Galactus is fully-powered she would choose not to.So it would be a stand off. "

White phoenix destroys.

Some impressive necro here.

And WCP wins.

Okay, lets review, my suspicion is that white phoenix force wins ths as Dark Phoenix rivalled Galactus' power:

Galactus has no boundaries:

Galactus and Phoenix can both destroy universes:

Phoenix can destroy one:

In a what if.

We also know that the Ultimate Nullifier is a part of Galactus:

Thus Galactus should be able to own phoenix as the UN can destroy and recreate the multiverse:

The following was originally posted by RiseofApocalypse:

lawl. You want multi-versal feat?  
 
http://img21.imageshack.us/i/fantasticfourv34618.jpg/  
"Should Abraxas reach the Nullifier before we do -- -- he can obilirate all the combined realities of the multi-verse..." 
 
The Ultimate Nullifier is a part of Galactus:  
http://img46.imageshack.us/i/fantasticfourv34915.jpg/ 
"The Ultimate Nullifier -- as much part of me as my heart itself"
  
Now you give me an omniversal feat for either Primus or Unicron.  
Observe: 
 
http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=9te0.jpg     
Continued, read these three carefully: 
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10qt9.jpg     
" The time will come soon when ALL the Energy in the UNIVERSE,
through out it's HISTORY will NOT be SUFFICIENT to feed him"    

http://img401.imageshack.us/i/20396565ii7.jpg/    
" Galactus' appetite became insatiable
and it threatened to consume All Existence"
 
http://img181.imageshack.us/i/biggomni1iq6.jpg/      
"Celestial renegade (Taimut) constructed a weapon (Galactus)
mighty enough to threaten the ENTIRE Space-Time structure of the OMNIVERSE"

Thus I believe Galactus can win this.

WCP is a top notch multiversal entity. she's out of Galactus' league.

@ultimatewarrior123:
Very good, but you seem to forget that everytime these two have fought in the past, for one reason or the other, Galactus always losing against Phoenix.

Also, Phoenix is more powerful than Galactus. Raw power alone and the Phoenix wins.

WPC is considered a multiversal abstract, who has the power to control universes. Galactus, even fully powered, is I believe, a tier below that.

" In the fight she 'beat' him, she drove him away from the planet and Galactus was almost starving to deathGalactus fully powered is like Eternity, Death etcPhoenix gets stomped "

@everybody above me (lol)

Please show me the white phoenix of the crown scans where she can control the universe. I mean phoenix is an incredibly powerful telepath and is very good at telekenisis so she can affect things on a universal scale at sub-atomic level. Not that she actually controls all things in the universe.

Saying someone is multiversal means nothing as where was she in all of the universes abraxas destroyed, (I know Galactus was getting killed), but Galactus is a being that can affect the omniverse, and using the UN which is a part of himself, he can destroy and recreate the multiverse. To be honest Phoenix in my view has an unclear power set, as she who is supposed to have unlimited energy clearly does not. In fact it is the case with many of these nigh-omnipotents.

Also Galactus has been beaten by beings less impressive than phoenix when he is hungry. When he fought Rachel:

"I am WEAK -- consumed by HUNGER"

Galactus was obviously not going to win.

In the other fight:

Galactus who was weak and hungry said that he could destroy her eventually (She was weaker than normal so this is not even a valid battle)

Therefore, previous fights can't be used.

Last of all, I challenge you to prove with scans the power of WPC is much more powerful than normal phoenix and also some demonstration or proof of her power, because the proof given in other threads is not impressive, and usually exeggerated.

Thanks for bearing with me.

The fact of the matter is that even in the Dark Phoenix Saga, the Empress herself predicted that the DARK Phoenix (one of the weakest forms of Phoenix) would become stronger than the crystal that created her, and if she would not be destroyed soon, everything that was would be no more; she would consume galaxies and eventually the Universe. That is why the Empress feared her so much. On the other hand, Galactus is feared because of his ability to destroy? Oh yes, Solar SYSTEMS. The fact that you are trying to keep the Phoenix’s past battles out of the thread shows that even you know that he would most likely lost this battle. I mean if there was a single battle in the past that he won against Phoenix, I highly doubt that you would be keeping it out of this thread, correct? Never the less, I will grant you that “wish” because I don’t really need past battles to win this, lol.

Phoenix wins this battle due to the fact that she's so frickin' strong!  I don't know, she just seems pretty strong anyways.

R.I.P. Galactus