Jean Grey vs A Dark Type Pokemon

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@rudebomberboy01: @wyldsong: @darkbiscuit: @ondskapt666: @etheral_dreams: @sightlessreality: @yifi:

Yep

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Her attack did nothing. Wolverine uses claws, it's super effective.

@jacthripper: Steel's actually gonna be neutral :b. And what the heck is wolverine doing? He's not here right now!

Really? No one wants to argue, lol

Jean Grey. Although they're immune to psychic types they have no feats of telepathic resistance from someone like her.

@mysticmedivh: ...that's kinda how they work tbh. It's not really resistance either, it's total immunity, lol. Does she know karate, lol

@don_sevour: On Comic Vine, for the most part, it works by using feats. If Darkrai doesn't have any telepathic resistance feats then there's nothing to suggest that Jean can't TP him regardless of his type. The type immunity thing can be a NLF, sort of like the move "Protect". Protect won't save you from Galactus blasting you regardless if it always worked into the games, anime, and manga. Or the ability Flash Fire protecting you from Human Torch going supernova.

@mysticmedivh: Well, If that's the case, then the feat would be every single time a psychic attacks a dark type with a psychic move, it effortlessly ignores all damage. In fact, regardless of level difference, Stat difference, or attack used, if it's psychic it fails. Limitless feats, lol. Seriously though, a level 100 uses psy shock on a lvl 1, no damage.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but sure, psychic types don't affect dark type Pokémon in the anime, games and manga. However, chances are the said dark types don't have any feats to suggest that they are invulnerable to someone of Jean's caliber.

@mysticmedivh: make her a level infinity, it's the same result, trust me, lol

Her tp wont work but ahe could tk aome stuff at it. Depends on the pokemon

@don_sevour: No. By that logic a Cyndaquil or Vulpix with the ability Flash Fire can survive temperatures equivalent to that of the Big Bang.

Or a Rattata using protect can survive a universe destroying attack.

@nerdchore: see that's more an answer that makes sense

@mysticmedivh: big bang involves more than fire... and ratata is only immune to ghost, of course it would die... but, given the mechanics I guess they would survive if 8t was just the heat :b, lol

Why wouldn't it work? If it doesn't work just because it's a dark type Pokémon then I guess a Murkrow or a Poochyena shouldn't be affected by Galactus launching a telepathic assault on their minds?

@nerdchore: I wouldn't think her tp could effect the pokemon since it's still a psychic ability. But maybe she could throw something at it.

@don_sevour: super fun and creative topic

Yep. That's how it works.

I said temperatures equivalent to that of the Big Bang, not the Big Bang itself. Just the temperatures.

Why would it die? The move protect has always protected any Pokémon that has used it in the games, anime, and manga, just like how dark types have been shown invulnerable to psychic types. Rattata using protect should save himself from an exploding universe.

@mysticmedivh: yes, that's exactly how it is. He would just kill them with a different type of move. Now you'really getting it!

@agent9149

No, it's not how it would work. That's called a NLF.

@mysticmedivh: yes. psychic moves literally do not affect dark pokemon @agent9149: lol that is what i said. Or at least tried to communicate. Glad you agree :)

@nerdchore: That's ridiculous, and a NLF.

@mysticmedivh: so you'really saying that if superman punched an intangible ghost hard enough it would die?

@don_sevour: I never said that.

@mysticmedivh: Same principle though, lol

@mysticmedivh: NLF? No limiting factor?

But that just how game mechanics work. It's like the unbreakable laws of physics.

Emma's diamond form, juggernaught a helmet and magnetos helmet are all supposedly TP proof yet Jean is the only telepath to bypass all 3 of their defeneses

No limits fallacy.

However, game mechanics aren't used here in order to debate a point.

@mysticmedivh: Same holds true in the anime... also with no limits... it's just how it works

@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: None of those people are pokemon... you do realize that she's gonna have to find another way to kill it, right? The whole point of the battle was to give her a challenge and make you guys think outside of the box, duh?

No, it's not how it works. If you genuinely believe Rattata's protect can protect himself from someone such as the Living Tribunal, or a multiverse busting attack, even though there's literally nothing to suggest they can do such a thing, then we have a problem.

@mysticmedivh: I don't see it as fallacy. Just the nature of it. Dark types are completely immune. Any fairy (magic) or fighting (martial arts) or bug (pertaining to specifically arthropod(like)s) attack would be super effective on them.

@mysticmedivh: ...that is how it works, watch the show...it's horrible. You can survive a time and space bending attack (spacial rend) by using protect, yes. So what else can she do?

Jean Grey solos Pokémon universe

@zeezee123: Yeah man, just give her a diverse movepool, lol.

And what feats do they have to suggest they can protect themselves from such a thing? If they don't, and if their only resistance is proving that they can protect themselves from low-end attacks from other Pokémon, then why should anyone assume that they are immune from a virtually omnipotent godlike being, for example.

@mysticmedivh: Because it happens all the time! Don't worry, it's usually only a one turn thing, lol

@mysticmedivh: They aren't resistant. They're immune. And the fact that Arceus the creator and godlike being of the pokemon world still abides by these game mechanics. A psychic attack from Arceus will never effect any dark pokemon. Regardless of how weak they are. The mechanics are law.

No. Spacial Rend is a Palkia exclusive move, and Palkia only fought Dialga, Giratina, and other legendaries. Protect to my knowledge wasn't used.

By the way, it doesn't bend time. Time is Dialga's thing. In fact, I don't even recall it actually bending space aside from the in-game move description. It hasn't even done it feat-wise.

Game mechanics don't apply in the anime and manga, nor do we debate using game mechanics. We use feats.

@mysticmedivh: It's up to the OP to set the requirements and he said that he's using the game feats and game mechanics.

@mysticmedivh: That's fine. But yeah, her DIRECT psionic aren't going to work. Pick a different strategy or she really will lose. Seriously though, he's super effective on her.

OP didn't state that, however, if we're debating with game mechanics then there's nothing I can argue against. By game mechanics a Rattata can kill a truly omnipotent being like TOAA.

However, feat-wise through the anime and manga, it's a different story.

I see no reason why a telepathic attack wouldn't work.

Jean Grey beats the dark type Pokémon.

@mysticmedivh: Well sir, I am new to the vine, and I didn't realize that I had to state that the basic rules of pokemon would apply to a pokemon *shakes head*, but yeah, yes, they do. Mkay?

People are still applying game mechanics to Pokemon matchups? And referring to the anime despite how inconsistent it is?

Newsflash: Electric attacks have been used to harm Ground type Pokemon, Ghost types have been hurt by physical attacks, Flying types have been hurt by ground attacks(Dig), moves that by game mechanics shouldn't do any damage actually do quite a bit (Screech for example), moves like mirror coat make a pokemon reflect any attack regardless of what type of attack it is which contradicts it's in game function etc etc etc.

@juiceboks: yup, makes them more interesting :).

@mysticmedivh: I just gave you a reason, she has other powers that would actually work