That's not Jason and if Jason is the new Red Hood then he has gotten better as well. A lot of people have been giving Tim too much credit as of late but he's still more brains than fighting skill.
jason he beat him once and lets not forget in underthe hood he went oneon one against bruce and though he didnt win batman had to be on his toes against him.Thats when he first came back im sure hes improve himself during bftc and after.
@ComicStooge: Well Todd definitely has more willingness to hurt so it makes sense that you pick him. I think it could go either way. I'm going with Tim. Dick will beat them both though.
This is a tough one. Jason is a better fighter and has shown murderous intent. He is not afraid to go full force. But this also leads to Jason being hot-headed and impulsive. However, though I don't see Drake winning this in street fight fashion, he is a lot smarter then Todd. With the familiarity of the Bat cave and and his superior intellect, I could see Drake pulling the upset. I will play devil's advocate and say Tim Drake, because I really could see him pulling this out with precautions.
" @erik: there's no such thing as cheating in a fight. "
Not true at all. See the fight between Batman and Karate Kid. "
Well it depends. If its a fight like in a tournament or somethin else then its cheating. But in a street fight when there are no rules there's no such thing as cheating. If they are no rules and Tim grabs some auto-win gadget while they're fight that's a cheap move, but it isnt really cheating.
" @erik: there's no such thing as cheating in a fight. "
Not true at all. See the fight between Batman and Karate Kid. "
Well it depends. If its a fight like in a tournament or somethin else then its cheating. But in a street fight when there are no rules there's no such thing as cheating. If they are no rules and Tim grabs some auto-win gadget while they're fight that's a cheap move, but it isnt really cheating. "
But there were no rules established for the fight between Batman and Karate Kid. There are just some things that are understood as cheating. I never said that it was not allowed to happen but in a straight up fight, Tim will not win.
okay. jason todd has been trained by i think it is 13 different mercenaries around the world all specializing in different skills and jason basically mastered all of them. but on the other hand tim drake was trained by batman longer and is smarter than jason but not by much. but overall i think jason wins.
I'm inclined to side with Jason. In "Death of the family" he and Tim were made to fight with no prep. Tim disarmed Jason so it was down to h2h. Jason was also blinded with a flashbang. Even blind Jason seemed to have the upper hand in the fight. Also Jason fights to kill. This means he will give it his all and not hold back. I'm gonna have to give it to the Red Hood.
In the New 52, he's better than Todd. He was the only one in the Teen Titans able to hurt and fight Superboy. Haven't seen Todd do anything remotely close to that.
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