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Posted by PrincessSolaria (156 posts) - - Show Bio
Red Robin 25
#1 Posted by Mr. Mercury (19259 posts) - - Show Bio

Battle thread!

#2 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38849 posts) - - Show Bio
Should be moved to the battle forum.
#3 Posted by Chaos Prime (10842 posts) - - Show Bio

Fight!!!!!!

#4 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio

Should be in the battle thread. And should be locked. Because Cass will destroy him.

Cass > Batman > Dick > Jason

That's how good she is.

#5 Posted by ReVamp (22863 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Marvel said:

Should be in the battle thread. And should be locked. Because Cass will destroy him.

Cass > Batman > Dick > Jason

That's how good she is.

Naw dude. Are you crazy? LMAO. This is a Jason Curbstomp. 
Its Batman>Jason>Dick>Tim>Cassandra>Damian. Really, Cassandra doesn't stand a chance. 
/Sarcasm.
#6 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp said:

@Supreme Marvel said:

Should be in the battle thread. And should be locked. Because Cass will destroy him.

Cass > Batman > Dick > Jason

That's how good she is.

Naw dude. Are you crazy? LMAO. This is a Jason Curbstomp.
Its Batman>Jason>Dick>Tim>Cassandra>Damian. Really, Cassandra doesn't stand a chance.
/Sarcasm.

Well I am slightly crazy. Okay moderately crazy. Okay, fine, geez I'm crazy!

#7 Posted by ReVamp (22863 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Marvel said:

@ReVamp said:

@Supreme Marvel said:

Should be in the battle thread. And should be locked. Because Cass will destroy him.

Cass > Batman > Dick > Jason

That's how good she is.

Naw dude. Are you crazy? LMAO. This is a Jason Curbstomp.
Its Batman>Jason>Dick>Tim>Cassandra>Damian. Really, Cassandra doesn't stand a chance.
/Sarcasm.

Well I am slightly crazy. Okay moderately crazy. Okay, fine, geez I'm crazy!

Well, no suprises there. Crazy is Sane here and Sane is Crazy.
#8 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

I never liked Cass...I go with Jason since he is the underdog here..

#9 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38849 posts) - - Show Bio
Cass.
#10 Posted by HBKTimHBK (5240 posts) - - Show Bio

Cassandra

#11 Posted by ReVamp (22863 posts) - - Show Bio

...Jas--
Ok, OK, Casandra.

#12 Posted by SmoothJammin (2332 posts) - - Show Bio

@Supreme Marvel said:

Should be in the battle thread. And should be locked. Because Cass will destroy him.

Cass > Batman > Dick > Jason

That's how good she is.

Sounds about right :D

#13 Posted by Telcalipoca (957 posts) - - Show Bio

jason wins a trip to the hospital

#14 Posted by saiyan_earthling (5389 posts) - - Show Bio

Cassie

#15 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
Another Death in the Family.
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#16 Posted by k4tzm4n (36482 posts) - - Show Bio

Dislike this thread.

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#17 Posted by Erik (31777 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:

Dislike this thread.

Fanboy. 
#18 Posted by k4tzm4n (36482 posts) - - Show Bio

A fanboy would construct a skewed argument how Todd could win.

I'm a fan. I dislike seeing him placed in unfair matches :P

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#19 Posted by CptPanda29 (211 posts) - - Show Bio

So Todd's got guns? Blap blap.

#20 Posted by Cochise (707 posts) - - Show Bio

Neither Cassandra nor Jason are "above Batman." Without prep, Cassandra wins a H2H fight more often than not. With prep, Jason wins.

#21 Posted by k4tzm4n (36482 posts) - - Show Bio

@CptPanda29 said:

So Todd's got guns? Blap blap.

I can only assume that's the sound of Cassie smashing his face in.

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#22 Posted by daredevil21134 (10965 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

A fanboy would construct a skewed argument how Todd could win.

I'm a fan. I dislike seeing him placed in unfair matches :P

Your a Jason fan?

#23 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@CptPanda29 said:

So Todd's got guns? Blap blap.

I can only assume that's the sound of Cassie smashing his face in.

I lolled.

#24 Posted by entropy_aegis (14550 posts) - - Show Bio

@daredevil21134 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

A fanboy would construct a skewed argument how Todd could win.

I'm a fan. I dislike seeing him placed in unfair matches :P

Your a Jason fan?

Yes,did'nt ya know?

Jason shoots her head,trollolol

#25 Edited by HBKTimHBK (5240 posts) - - Show Bio
Cassandra Cain dodging bullets, after they were fired

And this is why I feel Cassandra wins.

#26 Posted by k4tzm4n (36482 posts) - - Show Bio

@daredevil21134 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

A fanboy would construct a skewed argument how Todd could win.

I'm a fan. I dislike seeing him placed in unfair matches :P

Your a Jason fan?

Very much so.

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#27 Posted by Saren (25333 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@CptPanda29 said:

So Todd's got guns? Blap blap.

I can only assume that's the sound of Cassie smashing his face in.

LOL.

@Cochise said:

Neither Cassandra nor Jason are "above Batman." Without prep, Cassandra wins a H2H fight more often than not. With prep, Jason wins.

It's possible to argue that Cass at her prime would beat Batman at his prime. It's not possible to argue that for Jason.

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#28 Posted by daredevil21134 (10965 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

@daredevil21134 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

A fanboy would construct a skewed argument how Todd could win.

I'm a fan. I dislike seeing him placed in unfair matches :P

Your a Jason fan?

Yes,did'nt ya know?

Jason shoots her head,trollolol

I didn't know.I gotta talk to him more

#29 Posted by ThexX (1560 posts) - - Show Bio

Jason:

After being taken in by Bruce, Jason received excellent education and tutoring from both private tutors and Bruce thus, has deep knowledge in many subjects, including Science, Math, Medicine, Geography, Criminology, World History and English. As a former Robin, Jason Todd possesses all the skills of someone trained by Batman but lacked the experience Dick and Tim had. After his resurrection, Jason furthered his knowledge in combat by using Talia Al Ghul's fortune to travel the world similar to what his former mentor did, but seeking out much deadlier training. Talia also paid teachers to teach Jason about explosives, strategy, poisons, weapons, vehicles, stealth, antitoxins, and surveillance. He has trained his body to peak physical condition, being physically superior to most Olympic Athletes but that may be due to the healing of the Lazurus Pit. His reflexes, agility, stamina, and endurance are roughly comparable to those of Dick's. He has returned to Gotham and proved to be an extremely dangerous martial artist, having proven his skills to compare mentally and physically to rival with his predecessor Dick Grayson,Tim Drake, and even Bruce Wayne. It has been shown that both have very different fighting styles, while Dick fights with an emphasis on grace, agility, and ability, Jason's fighting style focuses much more on brutality, strength, and speed; he is shown to have studied half-a dozen fighting styles and has proved to be a master of Aikido, Capoeira, Judo, Savate, Kickboxing, and Tae Kwan Doe. With these skills he maintains his place as one of DC's top martial artists.

Jason has a particular trait of deceiving, and leaving traps for his enemies including: explosives, automated gun turrets, or electrical charges.

Jason's most notable weakness is his rage. Batman and numerous others have told him that his rage blinds him in battle to the point of leaving physical and mental weak points open for attacks.

After his resurrection and return to Gotham, Jason used the guise of Red Hood. The first costume consisted of Jeans, T-Shirt, Biker Jacket, A domino mask that is held in place by Spirit Gum, and The Red Hood Mask. His mask contains a Radio Transmitter and Receiver as well as Night Vision. He has Gauntlets that contain compartments for his weapons, which are deadlier.

Cass:

Unarmed Combat

Due to the harsh training she went through as a child, Cassandra is one of the greatest martial artists in the world and is a master assassin. She is skilled in being able to comprehend a person's body movements as if it were language or speech, and thus knows what actions a person will use before they actually do.Some of her feats include shattering brick and stone as well as a sword. She has used nerve strikes and pressure points. dodged bullets even at point blank range and even disarmed a gunman before the bullet can hit her.

Uniform

Cassie wears the costume originally created by Huntress, taken from her by Batman. As Blackbat, she wears her old batgirl costume with a domino mask. Her cape is torn, and her hands are wrapped in bandages with claws on the fingertips of her gloves.

Intellect

Cassandra was given some detective training from Tim Drake while they were in Blüdhaven.

Equipment

Carries an assortment of Batgadgets such as Batarangs, smoke grenades, small explosives, grappling hooks and lines though she rarely uses them.

Weapon

She is also a master of different kinds of melee and ranged weaponry. Her time with Barbara and the Batman only enhanced her already considerable skills.

Considering each Jason & Cass skills it is obvious that Jason would win this battle.

#30 Posted by slick23 (460 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThexX said:

Jason:

After being taken in by Bruce, Jason received excellent education and tutoring from both private tutors and Bruce thus, has deep knowledge in many subjects, including Science, Math, Medicine, Geography, Criminology, World History and English. As a former Robin, Jason Todd possesses all the skills of someone trained by Batman but lacked the experience Dick and Tim had. After his resurrection, Jason furthered his knowledge in combat by using Talia Al Ghul's fortune to travel the world similar to what his former mentor did, but seeking out much deadlier training. Talia also paid teachers to teach Jason about explosives, strategy, poisons, weapons, vehicles, stealth, antitoxins, and surveillance. He has trained his body to peak physical condition, being physically superior to most Olympic Athletes but that may be due to the healing of the Lazurus Pit. His reflexes, agility, stamina, and endurance are roughly comparable to those of Dick's. He has returned to Gotham and proved to be an extremely dangerous martial artist, having proven his skills to compare mentally and physically to rival with his predecessor Dick Grayson,Tim Drake, and even Bruce Wayne. It has been shown that both have very different fighting styles, while Dick fights with an emphasis on grace, agility, and ability, Jason's fighting style focuses much more on brutality, strength, and speed; he is shown to have studied half-a dozen fighting styles and has proved to be a master of Aikido, Capoeira, Judo, Savate, Kickboxing, and Tae Kwan Doe. With these skills he maintains his place as one of DC's top martial artists.

Jason has a particular trait of deceiving, and leaving traps for his enemies including: explosives, automated gun turrets, or electrical charges.

Jason's most notable weakness is his rage. Batman and numerous others have told him that his rage blinds him in battle to the point of leaving physical and mental weak points open for attacks.

After his resurrection and return to Gotham, Jason used the guise of Red Hood. The first costume consisted of Jeans, T-Shirt, Biker Jacket, A domino mask that is held in place by Spirit Gum, and The Red Hood Mask. His mask contains a Radio Transmitter and Receiver as well as Night Vision. He has Gauntlets that contain compartments for his weapons, which are deadlier.

Cass:

Unarmed Combat

Due to the harsh training she went through as a child, Cassandra is one of the greatest martial artists in the world and is a master assassin. She is skilled in being able to comprehend a person's body movements as if it were language or speech, and thus knows what actions a person will use before they actually do.Some of her feats include shattering brick and stone as well as a sword. She has used nerve strikes and pressure points. dodged bullets even at point blank range and even disarmed a gunman before the bullet can hit her.

Uniform

Cassie wears the costume originally created by Huntress, taken from her by Batman. As Blackbat, she wears her old batgirl costume with a domino mask. Her cape is torn, and her hands are wrapped in bandages with claws on the fingertips of her gloves.

Intellect

Cassandra was given some detective training from Tim Drake while they were in Blüdhaven.

Equipment

Carries an assortment of Batgadgets such as Batarangs, smoke grenades, small explosives, grappling hooks and lines though she rarely uses them.

Weapon

She is also a master of different kinds of melee and ranged weaponry. Her time with Barbara and the Batman only enhanced her already considerable skills.

Considering each Jason & Cass skills it is obvious that Jason would win this battle.

Cass will own Jason todd. What are you talking about??

#31 Posted by God_Spawn (37383 posts) - - Show Bio

@slick23 said:

@ThexX said:

Jason:

After being taken in by Bruce, Jason received excellent education and tutoring from both private tutors and Bruce thus, has deep knowledge in many subjects, including Science, Math, Medicine, Geography, Criminology, World History and English. As a former Robin, Jason Todd possesses all the skills of someone trained by Batman but lacked the experience Dick and Tim had. After his resurrection, Jason furthered his knowledge in combat by using Talia Al Ghul's fortune to travel the world similar to what his former mentor did, but seeking out much deadlier training. Talia also paid teachers to teach Jason about explosives, strategy, poisons, weapons, vehicles, stealth, antitoxins, and surveillance. He has trained his body to peak physical condition, being physically superior to most Olympic Athletes but that may be due to the healing of the Lazurus Pit. His reflexes, agility, stamina, and endurance are roughly comparable to those of Dick's. He has returned to Gotham and proved to be an extremely dangerous martial artist, having proven his skills to compare mentally and physically to rival with his predecessor Dick Grayson,Tim Drake, and even Bruce Wayne. It has been shown that both have very different fighting styles, while Dick fights with an emphasis on grace, agility, and ability, Jason's fighting style focuses much more on brutality, strength, and speed; he is shown to have studied half-a dozen fighting styles and has proved to be a master of Aikido, Capoeira, Judo, Savate, Kickboxing, and Tae Kwan Doe. With these skills he maintains his place as one of DC's top martial artists.

Jason has a particular trait of deceiving, and leaving traps for his enemies including: explosives, automated gun turrets, or electrical charges.

Jason's most notable weakness is his rage. Batman and numerous others have told him that his rage blinds him in battle to the point of leaving physical and mental weak points open for attacks.

After his resurrection and return to Gotham, Jason used the guise of Red Hood. The first costume consisted of Jeans, T-Shirt, Biker Jacket, A domino mask that is held in place by Spirit Gum, and The Red Hood Mask. His mask contains a Radio Transmitter and Receiver as well as Night Vision. He has Gauntlets that contain compartments for his weapons, which are deadlier.

Cass:

Unarmed Combat

Due to the harsh training she went through as a child, Cassandra is one of the greatest martial artists in the world and is a master assassin. She is skilled in being able to comprehend a person's body movements as if it were language or speech, and thus knows what actions a person will use before they actually do.Some of her feats include shattering brick and stone as well as a sword. She has used nerve strikes and pressure points. dodged bullets even at point blank range and even disarmed a gunman before the bullet can hit her.

Uniform

Cassie wears the costume originally created by Huntress, taken from her by Batman. As Blackbat, she wears her old batgirl costume with a domino mask. Her cape is torn, and her hands are wrapped in bandages with claws on the fingertips of her gloves.

Intellect

Cassandra was given some detective training from Tim Drake while they were in Blüdhaven.

Equipment

Carries an assortment of Batgadgets such as Batarangs, smoke grenades, small explosives, grappling hooks and lines though she rarely uses them.

Weapon

She is also a master of different kinds of melee and ranged weaponry. Her time with Barbara and the Batman only enhanced her already considerable skills.

Considering each Jason & Cass skills it is obvious that Jason would win this battle.

Cass will own Jason todd. What are you talking about??

Considering it looks like he just copied those things from the character pages, nothing he knows anything about.

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#32 Posted by Sherlock (7246 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThexX said:

Jason:

After being taken in by Bruce, Jason received excellent education and tutoring from both private tutors and Bruce thus, has deep knowledge in many subjects, including Science, Math, Medicine, Geography, Criminology, World History and English. As a former Robin, Jason Todd possesses all the skills of someone trained by Batman but lacked the experience Dick and Tim had. After his resurrection, Jason furthered his knowledge in combat by using Talia Al Ghul's fortune to travel the world similar to what his former mentor did, but seeking out much deadlier training. Talia also paid teachers to teach Jason about explosives, strategy, poisons, weapons, vehicles, stealth, antitoxins, and surveillance. He has trained his body to peak physical condition, being physically superior to most Olympic Athletes but that may be due to the healing of the Lazurus Pit. His reflexes, agility, stamina, and endurance are roughly comparable to those of Dick's. He has returned to Gotham and proved to be an extremely dangerous martial artist, having proven his skills to compare mentally and physically to rival with his predecessor Dick Grayson,Tim Drake, and even Bruce Wayne. It has been shown that both have very different fighting styles, while Dick fights with an emphasis on grace, agility, and ability, Jason's fighting style focuses much more on brutality, strength, and speed; he is shown to have studied half-a dozen fighting styles and has proved to be a master of Aikido, Capoeira, Judo, Savate, Kickboxing, and Tae Kwan Doe. With these skills he maintains his place as one of DC's top martial artists.

Jason has a particular trait of deceiving, and leaving traps for his enemies including: explosives, automated gun turrets, or electrical charges.

Jason's most notable weakness is his rage. Batman and numerous others have told him that his rage blinds him in battle to the point of leaving physical and mental weak points open for attacks.

After his resurrection and return to Gotham, Jason used the guise of Red Hood. The first costume consisted of Jeans, T-Shirt, Biker Jacket, A domino mask that is held in place by Spirit Gum, and The Red Hood Mask. His mask contains a Radio Transmitter and Receiver as well as Night Vision. He has Gauntlets that contain compartments for his weapons, which are deadlier.

Cass:

Unarmed Combat

Due to the harsh training she went through as a child, Cassandra is one of the greatest martial artists in the world and is a master assassin. She is skilled in being able to comprehend a person's body movements as if it were language or speech, and thus knows what actions a person will use before they actually do.Some of her feats include shattering brick and stone as well as a sword. She has used nerve strikes and pressure points. dodged bullets even at point blank range and even disarmed a gunman before the bullet can hit her.

Uniform

Cassie wears the costume originally created by Huntress, taken from her by Batman. As Blackbat, she wears her old batgirl costume with a domino mask. Her cape is torn, and her hands are wrapped in bandages with claws on the fingertips of her gloves.

Intellect

Cassandra was given some detective training from Tim Drake while they were in Blüdhaven.

Equipment

Carries an assortment of Batgadgets such as Batarangs, smoke grenades, small explosives, grappling hooks and lines though she rarely uses them.

Weapon

She is also a master of different kinds of melee and ranged weaponry. Her time with Barbara and the Batman only enhanced her already considerable skills.

Considering each Jason & Cass skills it is obvious that Jason would win this battle.

I think this may be what K4tz was referring to in terms of Fanboyism.

#33 Posted by difficlus (10679 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Cochise said:

Neither Cassandra nor Jason are "above Batman." Without prep, Cassandra wins a H2H fight more often than not. With prep, Jason wins.

It's possible to argue that Cass at her prime would beat Batman at his prime. It's not possible to argue that for Jason.

physically at H2H she outclasses batman, even he admits that much himself. In other areas Bruce has it packing in detective skills and prep time master.

#34 Posted by Nefarious (18862 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a stomp in Cassie's favor and you know it! >=(

#35 Posted by JediXMan (29688 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Marvel said:

Should be in the battle thread. And should be locked. Because Cass will destroy him.

Cass > Batman > Dick > Jason

That's how good she is.

Now I've seen people say that, but I'd appreciate an explanation. How is Cass better than Bruce? The others I get. Cass > Dick > Jason > Tim > Damian. But Cass > Batman?
#36 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

@Supreme Marvel said:

Should be in the battle thread. And should be locked. Because Cass will destroy him.

Cass > Batman > Dick > Jason

That's how good she is.

Now I've seen people say that, but I'd appreciate an explanation. How is Cass better than Bruce? The others I get. Cass > Dick > Jason > Tim > Damian. But Cass > Batman?

I just believe she has had greater feats of hand to hand combat against the best of martial arts. For instance, I think she's beaten Shiva at least once. Possible twice. I don't think in a fair fight, Batman's beat her. Although because she's reached such high levels others are using her as a bench mark for other characters which annoy me. Happens all the time to characters but it annoys me still.

#37 Edited by BringnIt (3809 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:

@Supreme Marvel said:

Should be in the battle thread. And should be locked. Because Cass will destroy him.

Cass > Batman > Dick > Jason

That's how good she is.

Now I've seen people say that, but I'd appreciate an explanation. How is Cass better than Bruce? The others I get. Cass > Dick > Jason > Tim > Damian. But Cass > Batman?
Because she beats bullets in a sprint.  
#38 Posted by ThexX (1560 posts) - - Show Bio

Jason beating bullets as Robin. And this is before he is trained by the people Talia picks for him

#39 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThexX said:

Jason beating bullets as Robin. And this is before he is trained by the people Talia picks for him

He's dodging the gun. Not the bullet.

#40 Posted by ThexX (1560 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok after looking at back issue I have of the two. I will admit Cass would win. Ok I was wrong so sue me. And yes I am a fanboy of Jason so admitting he would loose is hard you want go with your favorite hero or villain but I will admit defeat

#41 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThexX said:

Ok after looking at back issue I have of the two. I will admit Cass would win. Ok I was wrong so sue me. And yes I am a fanboy of Jason so admitting he would loose is hard you want go with your favorite hero or villain but I will admit defeat

From that. You'll fit in here. When I started, I was in the same boat. I hated seeing my favourite character lose. I'd go down swinging. I still do, but I've learned to stop it a lot more. :D

#42 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio

@Morpheus_ said:

Another Death in the Family.

I've only just seen that. LOL!

#43 Posted by God_Spawn (37383 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThexX said:

Ok after looking at back issue I have of the two. I will admit Cass would win. Ok I was wrong so sue me. And yes I am a fanboy of Jason so admitting he would loose is hard you want go with your favorite hero or villain but I will admit defeat

Don't worry about it, I even still have those tendencies at times.

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#44 Posted by sputnik (210 posts) - - Show Bio

cassandra squared, guns or no guns.

#45 Posted by Nefarious (18862 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a stomp...and you know it, OP.

#46 Posted by Video_Martian (5645 posts) - - Show Bio

Jason Todd

#47 Posted by Outside_85 (8194 posts) - - Show Bio

We suddenly learn the real reason why Jason is the way he is :)

#48 Posted by grimlock (1571 posts) - - Show Bio

@Stronger said:

I never liked Cass...I go with Jason since he is the underdog here..

but you know he gets beaten right?

#49 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

cassandra ftw

#50 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@grimlock said:

@Stronger said:

I never liked Cass...I go with Jason since he is the underdog here..

but you know he gets beaten right?

Saddly I know it.

Jason has a chance only if he has prep.