James Heller vs Marvel Ultimates

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Round one.

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  • Ultimate Versions
  • The Team has knowledge on Heller
  • Bloodlust on
  • Start 60 yards apart
  • James can only summon minnions in round two

Round two. (Same rules)

James Heller will now face Ultimate Thor

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James Heller decimated everyone except spidey. The speed and ferociousness of Heller is unbearable. Spidey maybe able to keep up

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#4  Edited By ElderSkaar

@leo-343 said:

James stomps the first round then he gets stomped in the second round.

What are Ultimate Thor's best feats that suggests he could beat Heller, let alone stomp him?

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@leo-343 said:

James stomps the first round then he gets stomped in the second round.

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@leo-343 said:

James stomps the first round then he gets stomped in the second round.

I dont trust you unless you prove it. I always found Thor as a slow combatant.

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@leo-343 said:

@elderskaar: Ultimate Thor isn't slow, in fact that's the only edge he has over his 616 conterpart. His lightning is strong enough to one-shot chitauri ships and down the Hulk.

James has no answer for lightning or weather manipulation. Nothing's stopping Thor from encasing him in a tornado with multiple lightning strikes. James isn't on his level and he gets decimated.

What if i remove Thor's lightning/weather manipulation in Round two?

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@leo-343 said:

@elderskaar: He'll rip him apart with his bare hands.

Heller will play smart, he casually do flips over big meta monsters.

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Ultimate Thor has what class 80-100 strength and Durability out the ya yas

Heller shouldnt be able to hurt Ult Thor at all

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Is that all you got to say? what stops Heller from dodging Thor's punches and if he gets hit he would heal it in seconds considering mercer took a nuke and heller is on the same tier.

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Ultimate Thor has what class 80-100 strength and Durability out the ya yas

Heller shouldnt be able to hurt Ult Thor at all

Heller outmuscled Mercer who was throwing tanks around, mercer was 100 ton+

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@elderskaar: and Ult Thor is class 100 easily (after going back and reviewing his feats)

Thor was sent to the Earths core by Magneto once and it didnt bother him.

He also reacted to a speed blitzing Quicksilver and Hyperion. so umm yeah... Ult Thor stomps easy

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@leo-343 said:

James stomps the first round then he gets stomped in the second round.

This.

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Lol at Thor losing to Mercer or Heller.

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Round 1: Heller wins

Round 2: Thor stomps

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#19  Edited By Jimmy_Rustler

@elderskaar: Bruh....James Heller is cool n all but he can't beat..like...any version of Thor that exists in the comics. MCU Thor would have been a better choice for a match-up imo.

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@elderskaar: Bruh....James Heller is cool n all but he can't beat..like...any version of Thor that exists in the comics. MCU Thor would have been a better choice for a match-up imo.

IMO Heller would have stomped Thor considering Thor had really bad feats in the movies, Heller was at least 5 times stronger and faster.

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@elderskaar:

and if he gets hit he would heal it in seconds considering mercer took a nuke and heller is on the same tier.

If you punch away there flesh they don't heal it back, they need to gain new flesh and Mercer didn't take a Nuke, he was caught in the tail which took away most of his body and he started getting better when a bird landed on him.

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@leo-343 said:
@elderskaar said:
@jimmy_rustler said:

@elderskaar: Bruh....James Heller is cool n all but he can't beat..like...any version of Thor that exists in the comics. MCU Thor would have been a better choice for a match-up imo.

IMO Heller would have stomped Thor considering Thor had really bad feats in the movies, Heller was at least 5 times stronger and faster.

Heller has a great shot against Movie Thor no doubt, but Thor still outclasses him in some areas. Thor had gotten his face scraped against a mountain at mach speeds with no damage, tanked Iron Man's repulsor blasts, a giant boulder to the face, multiple blows from a class 100 enemy. He's fast enough to redirect chitauri blasts and blasts from the Destroyer and Heller still has no answer for Thor powers.

What's stopping him from calling a tornado on Heller and zapping him with lightning?

Who was the class 100? Iron Man's repulsors didn't even blow hole through normal human beings, giant boulder means nothing unless i know the size of it.

A tornado doesn't last forever, and it took Thor some time to create one since he had to swung his hammer, giving Heller a good opportunity to slash him with claws or blade which can destroy tanks.

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@elderskaar:

and if he gets hit he would heal it in seconds considering mercer took a nuke and heller is on the same tier.

If you punch away there flesh they don't heal it back, they need to gain new flesh and Mercer didn't take a Nuke, he was caught in the tail which took away most of his body and he started getting better when a bird landed on him.

Let's say they fight in a populated NYC which is full of flesh

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#25  Edited By Jimmy_Rustler

@elderskaar: Thor outclasses Heller in durability though. I'm not so sure that Heller's organic weapons and attacks could even graze him let alone kill him..

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@elderskaar: Thor outclasses Heller in durability though. I'm not so sure that Heller's organic weapons and attacks could even graze him let alone kill him..

Thor wasn't really bulletproof from what i knew of outside of his armor was he? so his face is unprotected, a blade to the face would go through him

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@jimmy_rustler: Also the healing factor and tolerance makes up for the durability considering James can tank bullets to the face and everywhere and still stand.

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James should probably slaughter the first three, once he gets his claws on them, but i can't see how he'd beat Thor.

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@leo-343: Its been a while since i watched the Thor films. I remember in Avengers he needed to amp his lightning to take down chitauri ships, thats the only lightning feat i remember. What did Kurse do to put himself on 100 ton level?

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@jimmy_rustler: Also the healing factor and tolerance makes up for the durability considering James can tank bullets to the face and everywhere and still stand.

What about his lack of durability showings against lightning and/or projectile-based attacks?

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#34  Edited By ElderSkaar

@jimmy_rustler: I'd probably change Thor with Iron Man instead, and make some limitations of flight.

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@jimmy_rustler: I'd probably change Thor with Iron Man instead, and make some limitations of flight.

That would be a wise decision.

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@leo-343: Yeah lets forget about thor, i think i will sea him with Iron man instead

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Ult. Thor would just BFR Heller to space or Nargathrond or somewhere just filled with huge, evil, magical beasties.

Is Ult. Iron Man still a crazy strong technopath? He was previously capable of transferring his consciousness to other Iron Man suits or robotic beings. I'm not sure how Heller would keep him down.