@supermansito: instant transmission is light speed or maybe faster , he used this same method while fighiting bills so we can tell that is not a problem for him to do this while fighitng

Thats like if i said, Superman's heat vision is light speed or faster, and he uses it all the time in battle, so he has no problem doing that. Instant transmission doesn't require FTL reflexes, you and i could do it just the same as the Saiyans could if we had the ability to do so.

and like i told you kid goku had light speed reactions( not combat speed or traveling speed)

I have already proved that Superman does as well.

Goku with a powerlevel of 5,000 traveled Snake Way, 1,000,000 km long (621,371 miles) in the course of 2 days.

Goku traveled at 20,833 km per hour, (12,945 mph) (without kaioken)

right after they defeated vegeta , goku started to train in 100G

While figihting the ginyu force he had a power level of 90,000 lets see

5,000 power level 12.945 mph (every 5k is 12.945)

90/5 =18x12.945 mph = 233,010 mph

when goku started fighiting ginyu he powered up to 180,000 so just pretty much multiply it by x2 which equals= 466,020 mph if he had used kaikoen x20 this would be the result (9,320,400 mph)

when frieza and goku started figihting goku had a power level of 3.000.000 /180k = goku became x16.66666666666667 stronger

16.66666666666667x466,020 mph = 7,767,000 mph . if he used 20x kaikoen it which he did against freiza it would be 155,340,000 mph

finally goku became super saiyan his power level was 150,000,000/3m =50 he became x50 stronger lets multiply that by 7,767,000 mph

388,350,000 mph and using kaikoen x20 7,767,000,000 mph ok finally

1 hour = 3,600 seconds.

goku ssj1 x20 kaikoen = 7,767,000,000 mph / 3600 = 2,157,500 mi/sec

without kaikeon 107,875 mil/sec still not speed of light but this is only ssj1

I appreciate the intricacies of these calculations. However, Superman has traveled over 5.9,000,000,000 mph, before, **while fighting** somone. It is estimated that he is at least capable of traveling over 17,000,000,000 mph. So, if your calculations are correct (i double checked them just to sure) then at around ssj1 x20 kaioken, they have similar speed feats.

But then, you run into a problem. After the Freiza saga, Goku simply does not have the feats (from what i can remember) to compare to Superman's speed. If you have feats that would confirm that he can actually travel at such speeds, please show me them.

Even in the legendary ssj4 Goku has never shown that he can actually travel at speed in the range of the billions of miles per hour. And although calculations are nice, but feats out rule them 10 times out of 10. Goku's feats of speed simply do not compare with Superman's speed.

But hey, that is from my limited knowledge of DBZ, i used to watch it all the time when i was a kid, and i seem to have forgotten alot of what happened now a days. So if you have feats of him actually traveling this fast, please show me and prove me wrong.

Oh, and thanks for actually providing feats and calculations, unlike the other guy.

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