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#1 Posted by KaioKen (220 posts) - - Show Bio

Current Versions.

Bloodlust

No BFD

#2 Edited by Nessy3 (94 posts) - - Show Bio

Effortless Curbstomp

#3 Posted by Tim_Drake4444 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

Still leaning toward Kal from what I've heard, but will hold off on final judgement until I've watched it for myself.

#4 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

The movie launched 5 minutes ago, let the battles start!

#5 Posted by Sovereign91001 (4677 posts) - - Show Bio
#6 Posted by jashro44 (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

Can anyone show the full fight between ssjG goku and Bills?

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#7 Edited by Shavo (2061 posts) - - Show Bio
#8 Edited by Jorgevy (5114 posts) - - Show Bio

spoiler: ssg goku didnt even beat bills

#9 Edited by pooty (11378 posts) - - Show Bio

What does SSJG stand for?

#10 Posted by jashro44 (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

What does SSJG stand for?

Super Saiyajin God.

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#11 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio
#12 Posted by pooty (11378 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@pooty said:

What does SSJG stand for?

Super Saiyajin God.

Thanks. is this the first time some one went "God" mode?

#13 Posted by Nessy3 (94 posts) - - Show Bio

Just finished watching the movie, Bills visibly absorbs a solar system instantly, and then proceeds to destroy half the universe. Goku puts up a close fight but barely loses.

#14 Posted by InnerSuperman (858 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44:

wait what happened i have no clue whats going on

#15 Posted by InnerSuperman (858 posts) - - Show Bio

@nessy3: what movie i am confused

#16 Edited by Nessy3 (94 posts) - - Show Bio

@nessy3: what movie i am confused

The new dragonball film, in which goku fights an opponent that destroys half the universe in a single attack.

I believe this puts the whole goku vs superman thing to rest.

#17 Edited by jashro44 (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty: Yes.

@innersuperman said:

@jashro44:

wait what happened i have no clue whats going on

There is a new DBZ movie which is canon. Goku is suppose to go SSJG to fight Bills (he apparently still isn't powerful enough from what people are saying). I want to see the fight with Bills before I make judgement personally.

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#18 Edited by InnerSuperman (858 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44:

im not going to watch it i hated the last DBZ movie

#19 Posted by Batman242 (4862 posts) - - Show Bio

I still don't see Goku or any Saiyan being able to take a punch from Superman.

#20 Posted by Nessy3 (94 posts) - - Show Bio

I still don't see Goku or any Saiyan being able to take a punch from Superman.

That reminds me, Goku takes several punches from Bills, who literally destroyed a planet when he punched it. The explosion looks somewhat like the deathstar explosion from a new hope.

#21 Posted by Batman242 (4862 posts) - - Show Bio

@nessy3: I'd have to see the movie.

#22 Posted by InnerSuperman (858 posts) - - Show Bio

THATS IT!!!!!!!!!

tomorrow im making a thread an in depth analysis of superman vs goku

superman is more powerful than goku in every way and now im going to prove it!!!

#23 Posted by InnerSuperman (858 posts) - - Show Bio

im going to do a whole big 100% fact based thing but in short superman rips gokus head off in a heartbeat

#24 Posted by Raizex (354 posts) - - Show Bio

THATS IT!!!!!!!!!

tomorrow im making a thread an in depth analysis of superman vs goku

superman is more powerful than goku in every way and now im going to prove it!!!

Oh man, this is new and exciting. You got me so pumped up, bro. It's not like a thousand other people made threads about it. Man this is fresh.

#25 Posted by InnerSuperman (858 posts) - - Show Bio

@raizex:

i have had it with the god damn fanboys

#26 Posted by AnotherVillain (33 posts) - - Show Bio

@raizex:

i have had it with the god damn fanboys

lol says the guy defending superman with the name innersuperman XD

#27 Edited by jaywray (631 posts) - - Show Bio

im going to do a whole big 100% fact based thing but in short superman rips gokus head off in a heartbeat

Oh wow, I suppose you've seen Battle of the gods and know that for a fact? there totally aren't a million other people who've done the EXACT SAME THING.

#28 Posted by InnerSuperman (858 posts) - - Show Bio

@anothervillain:

i know i know but that does not change how powerful superman is

#29 Posted by AnotherVillain (33 posts) - - Show Bio

@anothervillain:

i know i know but that does not change how powerful superman is

have you seen battle of the gods, cause i havent so im not saying anything.. yet.. but from what ive heard bills destroyed half the universe in a single blast, took out a whole galaxy, or was it solar system, in an instant. aannd goku BARLEY lost. i really dont think supes has a chance.. but again im not saying anthing yet since i havent seen the movie

#30 Posted by Saren (25900 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman. One hit KO.

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#31 Edited by BillzTheGodOfDestruction (71 posts) - - Show Bio

ss1 goku would beat superman. screw that deathbattle!

SSG wins, spite.

#32 Edited by reikai (4349 posts) - - Show Bio

You should give it a few weeks for people to leak the movie. Remember it was a theatrical release. Won't see it on DVD or BlueRay for at least 4-6 months. Just for Japan. And we don't know if they'll even make an english dub of it. We may only ever see a subtitled version by the end of the year.

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#33 Posted by jaywray (631 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a pretty pointless thread given that basically no one will have seen the new movie at this stage, I personally highly doubt there'll be anything in the new movie that'll put Goku on Superman's level, especially since Superman's pressure point techniques are now shown to work for sure, but I myself am holding off judgement.

@anothervillain: From what I know, Bills looks to be a Confirmed Solar System buster for sure, but different translations are saying he'll wipe out the whole Galaxy the others saying parts of the universe.

Take it all with a grain of salt though.

#34 Posted by NeonGameWave (7993 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku wrecks Superman.

#35 Edited by drgnx (3565 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait, movies are canon when anime fillers generally are not considered such?

#36 Edited by jaywray (631 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku wrecks Superman.

How so.


@drgnx said:

Wait, movies are canon when anime fillers generally are not considered such?

In a lot of cases the Movies are non canon, it's just this time the original creator is the one behind it, so it's canon.
Some other movies are like that like the One Piece Strong World movie is also considered Canon I believe.

#37 Edited by NeonGameWave (7993 posts) - - Show Bio

@jaywray: Goku has the greater combat speed and has more combat experience also New 52 Superman does not have a lot of significant durability feats and Goku in SSJG form would be a Solar System Buster or above easily as he contains the power of Ultimate Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Vegeta and Pan who has inner potential. Many like to bring up or mention the bench pressing the earth for 5 days feat as a way to describe Superman`s strength however what they forget is that lifting strength is not striking power and that is where Superman is lacking, Goku has the better striking feats.

#38 Posted by jaywray (631 posts) - - Show Bio

@jaywray: Goku has the greater combat speed and has more combat experience also New 52 Superman does not have a lot of significant durability feats and Goku in SSJG form would be a Solar System Buster or above easily as he contains the power of Ultimate Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Vegeta and Pan who has inner potential. Many like to bring up or mention the bench pressing the earth for 5 days feat as a way to describe Superman`s strength however what they forget is that lifting strength is not striking power and that is where Superman is lacking, Goku has the better striking feats.

Oh you're going new 52 only? Hmm, I stopped reading comics for a couple of months, stopped just before Justice League vs Darkseid, so I can't make any judgments, but from what I have seen, Post Crises Supes still wins.

#39 Posted by debeze (243 posts) - - Show Bio

bills didnt destroy half of the universe not sure what u guys are talking about

#40 Edited by jaywray (631 posts) - - Show Bio

@debeze said:

bills didnt destroy half of the universe not sure what u guys are talking about

If I'm correct you've seen the movie right?
Do you speak Japanese and happen to know if Piccolo, or any character for that matter says anything about Bills being a Galaxy buster?

#41 Edited by NeonGameWave (7993 posts) - - Show Bio

@jaywray: It says current versions within the OP and I believe SSJ3 Goku>>Post Crisis Superman, SSJG is overkill.

#42 Posted by iLLituracy (13537 posts) - - Show Bio

man y'all are pressed

#43 Posted by Dredeuced (5720 posts) - - Show Bio

@anothervillain:

i know i know but that does not change how powerful superman is

I dunno, Superman's pretty consistently KO'd by planetary level attacks. DBZ has been pooping those out casually since the Freiza saga.

#44 Posted by THC (367 posts) - - Show Bio

@jaywray said:

This is a pretty pointless thread given that basically no one will have seen the new movie at this stage, I personally highly doubt there'll be anything in the new movie that'll put Goku on Superman's level, especially since Superman's pressure point techniques are now shown to work for sure, but I myself am holding off judgement.

Goku has been using pressure points in combat since early Dragonball

#45 Posted by Lvenger (20755 posts) - - Show Bio

The movie launched 5 minutes ago, let the battles start!

LMAO it's too true. How is it that people can base SSJG Goku winning on heresay? Without the context of the actual fight to base it on? So freaking weird.

#46 Edited by debeze (243 posts) - - Show Bio

i beleive supes still wins ( note:im a dbz ''fanboy'' xd but not biased) but i think this could change in a near future there will be new movies coming soon maybe even a series and is prolly gonna be goku fighiting some of these gods etc and getting stronger ofc

#47 Posted by Mortein (3014 posts) - - Show Bio

OP said current versions.

Does that mean we are using new-52 Superman?

anyways I think even Frieza is planet+ buster, with planet+ durability and FTL combat speed, which puts him on Superman's level (post crisis)

Top tier DBZ characters are probably millions of times more powerful than Frieza

#48 Posted by jaywray (631 posts) - - Show Bio

@thc said:

Goku has been using pressure points in combat since early Dragonball

Yeah man I know, but a lot of people have often used the idea that because Goku is a Saiyan that he wouldn't be effected by it.
That's why I said it works for sure :)

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#50 Edited by Theorder14 (1575 posts) - - Show Bio

isn't Billis Mftl? I don't know about his combat speed but it should be at least ftl then? but ill have to watch the movie first to be certain. If so, ssjg Goku who kept up with Billis should be able to take Superman with ease. Superman doesn't even have ftl combat speed i believe.