Who do you think wins all are fully healthy and are at their peak so sasuke and naruto has the sos power and madara is the ten tails etc. the battle takes place where the fourth greatin ninja war took place. This is a fight to the death both team has prep so who do you think wins.
Team 2 wins simply because Nagato and Minato won't be non factors. Madara and Itachi will.
Sasuke and Naruto are godlike beings with Naruto being slightly stronger. However Minato's usage of Seals and FTG brings something that Team 1's extras doesn't.
Instead of countering Sasuke's strongest attack with his own, Naruto can simply FTG away from it or have Minato use S/T Barrier to send it back at Sasuke.
Team 2 wins simply because Nagato and Minato won't be non factors. Madara and Itachi will.
Sasuke and Naruto are godlike beings with Naruto being slightly stronger. However Minato's usage of Seals and FTG brings something that Team 1's extras doesn't.
Instead of countering Sasuke's strongest attack with his own, Naruto can simply FTG away from it or have Minato use S/T Barrier to send it back at Sasuke.
That gives him a massive edge.
TOTALLY IRRELEVANT.
Madara Ten Tails Jinchuuriki, ALL alone, is easily capable of killing Nagato,Naruto and Minato like a fly. They were only capable of countering Madara because of Sasuke. Naruto is not slightly stronger than Naruto at all, if not the opposite at the moment. AND Naruto countered that attack because of Kurama alone. Otherwise....
Team 2 wins simply because Nagato and Minato won't be non factors. Madara and Itachi will.
Sasuke and Naruto are godlike beings with Naruto being slightly stronger. However Minato's usage of Seals and FTG brings something that Team 1's extras doesn't.
Instead of countering Sasuke's strongest attack with his own, Naruto can simply FTG away from it or have Minato use S/T Barrier to send it back at Sasuke.
That gives him a massive edge.
TOTALLY IRRELEVANT.
Madara Ten Tails Jinchuuriki, ALL alone, is easily capable of killing Nagato,Naruto and Minato like a fly. They were only capable of countering Madara because of Sasuke. Naruto is not slightly stronger than Naruto at all, if not the opposite at the moment. AND Naruto countered that attack because of Kurama alone. Otherwise....
What manga have you been reading? The major player in the battle against Madara was Naruto, not Sasuke.
Kurama is a part of Naruto's powerset. Naruto beat Sasuke despite the fact that Sasuke was amped by all the bijuu.
@reno117: @reno117: You are right. I assumed Madara was in his Edo form.
Indeed, Juubi Madara would tip the scale in his team's favor.
But Sasuke is weaker than Naruto.
Naruto beat Sasuke despite the fact that:
1. Naruto had been fighting for days without any break and about 180 Manga chapters. That's nearly 30% of the manga. Sasuke had been fighting for 50 chapters.
2. Sasuke held all bijuus and absorbed their chakra. Naruto only had a tired Kurama and the small amount the Bijuus gave him. Their chakras are nowhere near. The reason it ended in a draw was that Naruto was extremely tired ( had his Bijuu extracted, too ) and he didn't want to kill Sasuke.
In this real battle Sasuke loses faster than he did last time vs Naruto. Nagato kills Itachi whiles Minato buys time against JJ Madara. Team two now gang on Madara and defeats him.
Naruto is above Ten Tails Madara with one Rinnegan.
Doesn't matter when the rest of his team is composed of fodders. Itachi and Nagato are non-factors here, they would never tag the heavy-hitters of the opposite team, unless one another. Yondaime would never hurt Sasuke who could just change places with his bijuu damas or tank them with his Susanoo, also, he doesn't pack speed or firepower to even annoy Juudara. Naruto is slightly above Sasuke but in an actual team battle this doesn't count that much, as soon as Madara solos Minato and Nagato, Naruto would be in disadvantage.
Naruto gets teleported on the Totsuka blade = Space-time Totsuka Blitz, A new level of totsuka blitzing.
Madara shows Nagato how real men use the rinnegan.
Minato gets teamed up on and stomped.
I know that you are joking but I need to clear some things up :P
Itachi never tagged anyone able to move or aware of his presence with that thing, Naruto is a sensor ninja with way better ability in that in comparison with Nagato, also, Itachi doesn't hold speed feats to suggest that he would be able to even see that version of Naruto (And even his high-end reaction time, the kirin, isn't even valid, we can discuss that in some other opportunity if you want). And, finally, we can't just assume that it can negate durability, the description clearly says that it can seal anything that it pierces, we can't decide out of thin air that it can negate durability and/or chakra cloaks. Also, we don't know how much time it takes to the blade seal anything with huge chakra reserves like Minato and Naruto in this fight. The entire myth behind the blade is covered with assumptions, and we clearly saw that Black Zetsu and Kaguya don't share minds, they are separate entities, they were talking during their entire encounter, but statements like those don't mean much, the "invincibility" and "anything" could as well apply to the instance with Sasuke and Itachi, anything that Sasuke could've launched or summoned, would be sealed or repelled, the same logic applies to the battle with Zabuza and Haku, where Haku was called invincible and his technique was known as "flawless".
Naruto gets teleported on the Totsuka blade = Space-time Totsuka Blitz, A new level of totsuka blitzing.
Madara shows Nagato how real men use the rinnegan.
Minato gets teamed up on and stomped.
I know that you are joking but I need to clear some things up :P
Itachi never tagged anyone able to move or aware of his presence with that thing, Naruto is a sensor ninja with way better ability in that in comparison with Nagato, also, Itachi doesn't hold speed feats to suggest that he would be able to even see that version of Naruto (And even his high-end reaction time, the kirin, isn't even valid, we can discuss that in some other opportunity if you want). And, finally, we can't just assume that it can negate durability, the description clearly says that it can seal anything that it pierces, we can't decide out of thin air that it can negate durability and/or chakra cloaks. Also, we don't know how much time it takes to the blade seal anything with huge chakra reserves like Minato and Naruto in this fight. The entire myth behind the blade is covered with assumptions, and we clearly saw that Black Zetsu and Kaguya don't share minds, they are separate entities, they were talking during their entire encounter, but statements like those don't mean much, the "invincibility" and "anything" could as well apply to the instance with Sasuke and Itachi, anything that Sasuke could've launched or summoned, would be sealed or repelled, the same logic applies to the battle with Zabuza and Haku, where Haku was called invincible and his technique was known as "flawless".
TL;DR : You are just mad that Itachi solos your fav. :)
Itachi is invincible as per Kaguya's will.
Itachi can totsuka blitz any enemy as per author statements
Easy win for the uchiha team. Madara with the ten tails is too much. Minato and Nagato won't be able to do anything to him. I guess itachi is just there for good measure. Personally, I've always felt sasuke>naruto despite their VOTE battle outcome, but whatever. At the very least, sasuke=naruto, so madara and sasuke can gang up on naruto after madara makes short work of minato and Nagato.
Can the Itachi fapboys go back to the cesspit that is Narutobase where they belong? The manga is filled with hyperboles and bullshit meant to intimidate/impress. The databook says Raikiri can cut through anything but I'll personally slap anyone that suggests Kakashi could cut the Juubi in two.
Same goes for Yata. We debate based on feats not the exaggerations of characters and books. Itachi loses to Nagato as he has no counter for Chibaku Tensei.
No matter how much people deny it, Sasuke is much, much stronger than Naruto, when it comes to base forms, that is. The only reason Naruto can stand up to him is thanks to Kurama and other Tailed Beasts' chakras. Think about it. The Tailed Beasts are some of the strongest creatures in Narutoverse and Naruto has chakras of all of them, of course he is strong. But that isn't his own power. The furthest Naruto's gone by his own is Sage Mode.
The furthest Sasuke's gone by his own is Mangekyou Sharingan. And Mangekyou Sharingan Sasuke > Sage Mode Naruto imo. Not to mention Sasuke's a Ninjutsu, Genjutsu and Kenjutsu expert when compared to Naruto. As a matter of fact, in their final battle what Sasuke did was really impressive but even Kishimoto had to reduse him, it was quite obvious actually, he managed to take charka by every tailed beast and he got..what? Lightning..? the only nature that is completely useless against Wind. And don't even think about saying that Sasuke said " I lost" he clearly meant it about his ideals of a true Hokage.
Sasuke surpasses Naruto in every way. Especially in Gaiden, lmao!
No matter how much people deny it, Sasuke is much, much stronger than Naruto, when it comes to base forms, that is. The only reason Naruto can stand up to him is thanks to Kurama and other Tailed Beasts' chakras. Think about it. The Tailed Beasts are some of the strongest creatures in Narutoverse and Naruto has chakras of all of them, of course he is strong. But that isn't his own power. The furthest Naruto's gone by his own is Sage Mode.
The furthest Sasuke's gone by his own is Mangekyou Sharingan. And Mangekyou Sharingan Sasuke > Sage Mode Naruto imo. Not to mention Sasuke's a Ninjutsu, Genjutsu and Kenjutsu expert when compared to Naruto. As a matter of fact, in their final battle what Sasuke did was really impressive but even Kishimoto had to reduse him, it was quite obvious actually, he managed to take charka by every tailed beast and he got..what? Lightning..? the only nature that is completely useless against Wind. And don't even think about saying that Sasuke said " I lost" he clearly meant it about his ideals of a true Hokage.
Sasuke surpasses Naruto in every way. Especially in Gaiden, lmao!
I don't get why people have so much trouble understanding that Kurama is a part of Naruto's powerset since Naruto is a jinchuuriki. Controlling the tailed beast requires extreme skill and training, so it's not like Naruto just got free power ups either.
Btw... The only reason why Sasuke could stand up to Naruto was thanks to the Tailed Beasts' chakras. Think about it. The Tailed Beasts are some of the strongest creatures in Narutoverse and Sasuke had the full chakras of all of them, of course he was strong. But that wasn't his own power and he still got shrekt by Naruto
I see no contradiction there, Hachibi was obviously burning and taking damage. Nowhere does it say that the target would melt instantly.
Second, Jiraiya, according to the databook, the attack should've locked Manda in place, he just shed his skin without visible damage:
I see no contradiction here either. Jiraiya tried to fry Manda but he was fooled by it shedding skin. The attack didn't actually actually tag Manda for you to judge.
Now Sasuke, look how Itachi is directly hit by the jutsu and escapes with only with an arm slightly burned (Well, he is the soloking after all):
What seems to be the problem ? Itachi's arm obviously got burned when he was tagged.
For Orochimaru:
Again, where is the problem ? The attack was greatly diminished.
And for Deidara:
So ? Sasuke himself stated that they only took a small portion of the attack before reverse summoning, he didn't tank the blast at all.
The worst of all is the one that says that the Raikiri can pierce through anything lol
Here is a full list of all the things Kakashi's Raikiri couldn't cut :
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Conclusion : I see no contradiction anywhere there. So Itachi still solos. Deal with it.
Can the Itachi fapboys go back to the cesspit that is Narutobase where they belong? The manga is filled with hyperboles and bullshit meant to intimidate/impress. The databook says Raikiri can cut through anything but I'll personally slap anyone that suggests Kakashi could cut the Juubi in two.
Same goes for Yata. We debate based on feats not the exaggerations of characters and books. Itachi loses to Nagato as he has no counter for Chibaku Tensei.
You sound like you have problems, chill. Anyone who can't understand sarcasm and takes stupid jokes so seriously is really in no position to tell people what to do.
1. Naruto had been fighting for days without any break and about 180 Manga chapters. That's nearly 30% of the manga. Sasuke had been fighting for 50 chapters.
Completely irrelevant. Naruto had his chakra refilled multiple times by multiple people during the war and he even got the Sage of six paths chakra boost by the end of it. Also, using the number of chapters as proof is one of the dumbest arguments I've seen.
2. Sasuke held all bijuus and absorbed their chakra. Naruto only had a tired Kurama and the small amount the Bijuus gave him. Their chakras are nowhere near. The reason it ended in a draw was that Naruto was extremely tired ( had his Bijuu extracted, too ) and he didn't want to kill Sasuke.
You mean the same tired Bijuu that have been forced to fight through that war as Edo and as the Juubi then summon dimensions as Kaguya not to mention had their chakra extracted by her to form the massive TSB. Double standards much ? And naruto didn't only have a tired Kurama... unless you are blinded by bias Sasuke was obviously fodderizing Naruto when he had the Bijuus chakra and the only reason it ended in a draw was because of a very silly plot device : Kurama absorbing the Natural energy of the entire planet... somehow.
3. Sasuke clearly tells Naruto he won.
Clearly out of context. Anyone who read the chapter knows that Sasuke was talking about their conviction and only said that to satisfy Naruto which is why he was smiling. For all intent and purpose, that fight ended in a stalemate and no one can deny that.
Irrelevant. If not for sheer PIS that final clash would have never happened in the first place as Sasuke has better options to finish off that half dead Naruto with his chidori spear and Enton.
@mudamudamuda: Actually, by the description, the jutsu that reached Itachi shouldn't stop burning until Itachi was completely consumed by it, it sets the entire target ablaze (But I can understand that, after all, he is the soloking). And the lava was stated to melt anything in it's path, and both Hachibi and Naruto tanked that and recovered in no time. The mini-bijuu bomb wasn't completely diminished, it still knocked Orochijackson down. Also, about chidori and raikiri...
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Raikage and Gaara probably want to talk with you :P But you made a great point here...
Actually, by the description, the jutsu that reached Itachi shouldn't stop burning until Itachi was completely consumed by it, it sets the entire target ablaze (But I can understand that, after all, he is the soloking).
I do not see where that description mention anything about setting the entire target ablaze and Itachi obviously didn't take the full attack as he was not sent flying along with it all the way to the clouds.
And the lava was stated to melt anything in it's path, and both Hachibi and Naruto tanked that and recovered in no time.
That doesn't say anything about how fast it would melt them.
The mini-bijuu bomb wasn't completely diminished, it still knocked Orochijackson down.
"Completely" is very likely a translation mistake.
"A defensive wall that waits with firm pose and open mouth to gulp down every attack—— The Rashōmon that is supplied in threefold by Orochimaru's physical defensive technique!! The first gate takes the attack head-on, the second gate specializes in decreasing its power, and the third gate disperses the pressure… Because each of the three gates has a different duty, attacks will have lost their power before reaching the user. Summoning three Rashōmon in an instant, while just one consumes a massive amount of chakra…"
Doesn't say that the attack will completely lose it's power.
Also, about chidori and raikiri...Raikage and Gaara probably want to talk with you :P
Oh no you didn't. When will people stop using Chidori to downplay Raikairi ? That's like using rasengan to downplay Odama ransegen smh
Still waiting for those feats of raikiri failing to cut anything.
@mudamudamuda: You just confirmed that the Yata Mirror can be cut. My job here is done.
Yata mirror doesn't have a physical shape, asking for Kakashi to cut it is like asking for him to cut something intangible, something that he can't physically interact with in the first place, so your argument is invalid. :)
@mudamudamuda: You just confirmed that the Yata Mirror can be cut. My job here is done.
Yata mirror doesn't have a physical shape, asking for Kakashi to cut it is like asking for him to cut something intangible, something that he can't physically interact with in the first place, so your argument is invalid. :)
So he also can't cut chakra cloaks? They aren't physical shapes at all, just condensed energy, just like Yata Mirror.
So he also can't cut chakra cloaks? They aren't physical shapes at all, just condensed energy, just like Yata Mirror.
False, Energy has nothing to do with what I'm saying as it is physical quantity. Chakra cloaks are actual physical manifestation of chakra. Yata mirror is an otherworldly tool that was explicitly stated to have no physical shape.
So he also can't cut chakra cloaks? They aren't physical shapes at all, just condensed energy, just like Yata Mirror.
False, Energy has nothing to do with what I'm saying as it is physical quantity. Chakra cloaks are actual physical manifestation of chakra. Yata mirror is an otherworldly tool that was explicitly stated to have no physical shape.
The only game changer uchihas have is Madara, Itatchi gets fodderized here in a serious battle. Minato's versatility makes indras arrow or Chibaku tensei Sasuke's worse option on the other hand Nagato also brings a bit of help with his rinnegan, if used correctly he'll be able to keep himself alive and stay on the offensive giving Naruto more support to clean house.
@hiddenlight: Well mind if I use that in something in the future? You'll get credit, just need to prove someone wrong on a fanfiction site. Question. What's your opinion on this CLICK ME, I'M BAIT. Also where can on find the databooks picked apart of hyperboles?
So he also can't cut chakra cloaks? They aren't physical shapes at all, just condensed energy, just like Yata Mirror.
False, Energy has nothing to do with what I'm saying as it is physical quantity. Chakra cloaks are actual physical manifestation of chakra. Yata mirror is an otherworldly tool that was explicitly stated to have no physical shape.
No matter how much people deny it, Sasuke is much, much stronger than Naruto, when it comes to base forms, that is. The only reason Naruto can stand up to him is thanks to Kurama and other Tailed Beasts' chakras. Think about it. The Tailed Beasts are some of the strongest creatures in Narutoverse and Naruto has chakras of all of them, of course he is strong. But that isn't his own power. The furthest Naruto's gone by his own is Sage Mode.
The furthest Sasuke's gone by his own is Mangekyou Sharingan. And Mangekyou Sharingan Sasuke > Sage Mode Naruto imo. Not to mention Sasuke's a Ninjutsu, Genjutsu and Kenjutsu expert when compared to Naruto. As a matter of fact, in their final battle what Sasuke did was really impressive but even Kishimoto had to reduse him, it was quite obvious actually, he managed to take charka by every tailed beast and he got..what? Lightning..? the only nature that is completely useless against Wind. And don't even think about saying that Sasuke said " I lost" he clearly meant it about his ideals of a true Hokage.
Sasuke surpasses Naruto in every way. Especially in Gaiden, lmao!
I don't get why people have so much trouble understanding that Kurama is a part of Naruto's powerset since Naruto is a jinchuuriki. Controlling the tailed beast requires extreme skill and training, so it's not like Naruto just got free power ups either.
Btw... The only reason why Sasuke could stand up to Naruto was thanks to the Tailed Beasts' chakras. Think about it. The Tailed Beasts are some of the strongest creatures in Narutoverse and Sasuke had the full chakras of all of them, of course he was strong. But that wasn't his own power and he still got shrekt by Naruto
By the moment Kurama is a separate being and is aiding and lending Naruto chakra I don't even care that is Naruto's powerset. The battle ended up a stalemate and no one with actual brain can deny that. I don't see Naruto being stronger in power as in chakra and strength at all.. Kurama stated that Sasuke it's on Hagoromo's level himself. To be the main character Naruto has proved to me nothing..If Naruto was holding back then so was Sasuke. Naruto was on the ground bleeding out, out of chakra, beaten, and with one arm. What else was he going to do to Sasuke. Naruto couldn't even stand up, like back then when Sasuke did BEAT Naruto. Naruto even states that their match had no winner. Naruto has NO CLEAR win over Sasuke. Indra's Arrow is Sasuke Uchiha's strongest offensive technique..one arrow was powerful enough to match the combined power of both a Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken and a Senjutsu enhanced Wind Release: Ultra-Big Ball Rasenshuriken. At the end of the day, who did Naruto beat without the help of the Kyuubi Chakra. Don't worry I will wait.
People claiming Sasuke will always lose to Naruto.. ignores/forgets that Sasuke already defeated Naruto 3 times, and with the 4th battle ending in a draw.
No matter how much people deny it, Sasuke is much, much stronger than Naruto, when it comes to base forms, that is. The only reason Naruto can stand up to him is thanks to Kurama and other Tailed Beasts' chakras. Think about it. The Tailed Beasts are some of the strongest creatures in Narutoverse and Naruto has chakras of all of them, of course he is strong. But that isn't his own power. The furthest Naruto's gone by his own is Sage Mode.
The furthest Sasuke's gone by his own is Mangekyou Sharingan. And Mangekyou Sharingan Sasuke > Sage Mode Naruto imo. Not to mention Sasuke's a Ninjutsu, Genjutsu and Kenjutsu expert when compared to Naruto. As a matter of fact, in their final battle what Sasuke did was really impressive but even Kishimoto had to reduse him, it was quite obvious actually, he managed to take charka by every tailed beast and he got..what? Lightning..? the only nature that is completely useless against Wind. And don't even think about saying that Sasuke said " I lost" he clearly meant it about his ideals of a true Hokage.
Sasuke surpasses Naruto in every way. Especially in Gaiden, lmao!
I don't get why people have so much trouble understanding that Kurama is a part of Naruto's powerset since Naruto is a jinchuuriki. Controlling the tailed beast requires extreme skill and training, so it's not like Naruto just got free power ups either.
Btw... The only reason why Sasuke could stand up to Naruto was thanks to the Tailed Beasts' chakras. Think about it. The Tailed Beasts are some of the strongest creatures in Narutoverse and Sasuke had the full chakras of all of them, of course he was strong. But that wasn't his own power and he still got shrekt by Naruto
By the moment Kurama is a separate being and is aiding and lending Naruto chakra I don't even care that is Naruto's powerset. The battle ended up a stalemate and no one with actual brain can deny that. I don't see Naruto being stronger in power as in chakra and strength at all.. Kurama stated that Sasuke it's on Hagoromo's level himself. To be the main character Naruto has proved to me nothing..If Naruto was holding back then so was Sasuke. Naruto was on the ground bleeding out, out of chakra, beaten, and with one arm. What else was he going to do to Sasuke. Naruto couldn't even stand up, like back then when Sasuke did BEAT Naruto. Naruto even states that their match had no winner. Naruto has NO CLEAR win over Sasuke. Indra's Arrow is Sasuke Uchiha's strongest offensive technique..one arrow was powerful enough to match the combined power of both a Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken and a Senjutsu enhanced Wind Release: Ultra-Big Ball Rasenshuriken. At the end of the day, who did Naruto beat without the help of the Kyuubi Chakra. Don't worry I will wait.
People claiming Sasuke will always lose to Naruto.. ignores/forgets that Sasuke already defeated Naruto 3 times, and with the 4th battle ending in a draw.
Ok, let's just list the facts... Naruto had Kurama's chakra since that's a part of his standart powerset (or would you measure B's power without the 8-tails?), but Sasuke had the chakra of every other Bijuu. Sasuke just stole the chakra, but for Naruto, the chakra of Kurama is constantly mixing with his own and if Kurama is removed from his body, he dies. You somehow think that the stolen chakra of 8 Bijuu is more legit than the chakra from a single Bijuu in a jinchuuriki?
Sasuke was going for the kill, Naruto wasn't. Sasuke's goal was to kill Naruto to sever his ties with him, while Naruto wanted to bring Sasuke back to Konoha.
So... The fact that Sasuke's technique matched Naruto's somehow makes him superior? I'm not really following you here.
Non amped Naruto who wasn't going for the kill managed to stalemate amped bloodlusted Sasuke, that's all there is to it. Or do you think that in this battle, Naruto doesn't have Kurama because you think that that's not fair? Nope, standart powerset. Sasuke doesn't have the Bijuu, Naruto has Kurama. Sasuke with Bijuu=Naruto with Kurama, so logically Sasuke without Bijuu<Naruto with Kurama.
False, Energy has nothing to do with what I'm saying as it is physical quantity. Chakra cloaks are actual physical manifestation of chakra. Yata mirror is an otherworldly tool that was explicitly stated to have no physical shape.
Ok, let's just list the facts... Naruto had Kurama's chakra since that's a part of his standart powerset (or would you measure B's power without the 8-tails?), but Sasuke had the chakra of every other Bijuu. Sasuke just stole the chakra, but for Naruto, the chakra of Kurama is constantly mixing with his own and if Kurama is removed from his body, he dies. You somehow think that the stolen chakra of 8 Bijuu is more legit than the chakra from a single Bijuu in a jinchuuriki?
What Sasuke did there way quite impressive, if Naruto would have done that.. everybody would be like " wow, look what he actually did there". Is as legit as the Bijuu in a Jinchuuriki.
Sasuke was going for the kill, Naruto wasn't. Sasuke's goal was to kill Naruto to sever his ties with him, while Naruto wanted to bring Sasuke back to Konoha.
Naruto main goal was to survive that battle, second was to bring Sasuke back.. he wouldn't have died for Sasuke in any way and that we know since he threw both a Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken and a Senjutsu enhanced Wind Release: Ultra-Big Ball Rasenshuriken to Sasuke.
So... The fact that Sasuke's technique matched Naruto's somehow makes him superior? I'm not really following you here.
No, just makes his ninjutsu superior.
Non amped Naruto who wasn't going for the kill managed to stalemate amped bloodlusted Sasuke, that's all there is to it. Or do you think that in this battle, Naruto doesn't have Kurama because you think that that's not fair? Nope, standart powerset. Sasuke doesn't have the Bijuu, Naruto has Kurama. Sasuke with Bijuu=Naruto with Kurama, so logically Sasuke without Bijuu<Naruto with Kurama.
I think you're exaggerating right now, he wasn't bloodlusted at all. He was just serious when actually also Naruto got serious. It wouldn't be possible for Naruto to stay alive if he also wasn't going for the kill, it's pretty obvious. There is no fair and unfair in war man. " so logically Sasuke without Bijuu<Naruto with Kurama." OMFG, No. Pleased that Naruto is becoming serious, Sasuke summons the satellites encasing the tailed beasts and begins channelling their chakra into his Complete Body Susanoo then it changes into a more humanoid form. That's why he took all that chakra.
@reno117: There's really no point arguing with somebody who says that Kurama is not a part of Naruto's powerset but stolen Bijuu chakra is a part of Sasuke's.
@reno117: There's really no point arguing with somebody who says that Kurama is not a part of Naruto's powerset but stolen Bijuu chakra is a part of Sasuke's.
I said that Sasuke taking all that Bijuu chakra is the same as Naruto having Kurama.
@hiddenlight: Well mind if I use that in something in the future? You'll get credit, just need to prove someone wrong on a fanfiction site. Question. What's your opinion on this CLICK ME, I'M BAIT. Also where can on find the databooks picked apart of hyperboles?
I picked myself, and no problem, you can use :P Just buy or download the databooks, almost every jutsu have a statement like this.
Also, I'm still upset that Sasuke never let Naruto fight with the bijuus (He stealed them, when Hagomoro said that Naruto was the chosen one to guide the tailed beasts) or the other half of Kyuubi, but I understand that Kishimoto had to make the battle fair, otherwise it would be too boring. After all, a weakened Naruto with only 50% of his own bijuu and with his chakras reserves low (Kyuubi clearly said that he was almost faiting, and in fact, after he used his first techniques he had to restore his chakra with the nature energy) and with morals on and holding back still managed to stalemate a bloodlusted Sasuke charged with bijuu chakra.
No matter how much people deny it, Sasuke is much, much stronger than Naruto, when it comes to base forms, that is. The only reason Naruto can stand up to him is thanks to Kurama and other Tailed Beasts' chakras. Think about it. The Tailed Beasts are some of the strongest creatures in Narutoverse and Naruto has chakras of all of them, of course he is strong. But that isn't his own power. The furthest Naruto's gone by his own is Sage Mode.
The furthest Sasuke's gone by his own is Mangekyou Sharingan. And Mangekyou Sharingan Sasuke > Sage Mode Naruto imo. Not to mention Sasuke's a Ninjutsu, Genjutsu and Kenjutsu expert when compared to Naruto. As a matter of fact, in their final battle what Sasuke did was really impressive but even Kishimoto had to reduse him, it was quite obvious actually, he managed to take charka by every tailed beast and he got..what? Lightning..? the only nature that is completely useless against Wind. And don't even think about saying that Sasuke said " I lost" he clearly meant it about his ideals of a true Hokage.
Sasuke surpasses Naruto in every way. Especially in Gaiden, lmao!
This one makes a lot of sense, Naruto needed help from the Bijuus in order to use their jutsus, he was connected to part of them, while a fraction of their chakra was inside him, but in every single instance where he used their powers, he needed to ask them first:
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So Naruto couldn't just spam their techniques without their permission, first he became a host to part of their chakra after befriending them, and then, they had to teach him or willingfully give him their techniques. The only way that Sasuke could've sucked away their chakra was by the preta path, and it was never shown that you can instantly use the techniques of the chakra that you sucks. The only one that could do that was Madara, but only because he already had Hashirama's cells in his body, and we saw that the Wood Release is closely related to senjutsu, but when the Preta Path tried to absorb chakra from Naruto in the past it became a frog statue because Nagato hadn't knowledge about how to handle senjutsu. Even if he was a friend of the bijuus he still would be unable to contact them, as he just sucked their chakra, and never became a host, and also locked them paralyzed inside the Chibaku Tenseis without contact to the world outside (He did that to cut Naruto's access to their powers). Actually, I think that this answers a question that you've made in one of our debates in the past @mudamudamuda
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